I agree with you but I think that the majority of people that are card carrying members of a political party aren't like this in reality.
Any possible agreement on the long-gun registry?
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I agree with you but I think that the majority of people that are card carrying members of a political party aren't like this in reality.
Some are....some aren't. Fanatics of any stripe can be pretty spooky when
ideology blinds then from rationality.
It just comes down to our political system being broken. Both American parties and every Canadian party is not run by middle class people. The middle class is dead. I find it frustrating that anybody would follow any political party, to be honest. I prefer the Conservatives over the others but only because of major issues right now. I don't believe in global warming and I have great protest to the gun registry. That's enough for me even though they don't do anything else well.
No, they aren't.....
the party is the foundation of politics in Canada.....and it is a disgrace that only about 3% of voters belong. That leaves all policy in the hands of the elite....a big mistake.
Only the Reform Party ever managed to keep a large portion of those that voted Reform actually as members of the Party..........
Canadians need to get much more involved.
I agree that we need to get more involved but not in that way. Becoming a member of a political party only encourages them. They need to be lacking our support, not counting on it.
Well put- I guess all political parties have days when they shine- just not enough of them. :lol::lol::lol:
What a complete waste of time, this country has much more pressing issues like the environment and the economy to deal with than some meaningless political/ideological wedge issue who's only real significance now is how much momentum the conservative government can build behind it.
Just take Newfoundland in the last week as one example or BC where much of the dead forest burned up this year due in part to climate change. I spent almost a week not being able able to see the sun due to fires hundreds of miles to the west around the town where I grew up. Floods, droughts, thunder storm activity and more have increased in strength and will continue to grow over the years and we don't even have a serious debate on it in this country because we have a second generation oilman in charge who almost alone of world leaders is still in denial.
I've said it before and i'll say it again, we deserve better.
I agree with the philosophy, but I don't find it too practical as I only get one vote and there's at least six parties I'm not in favour of.
It isn't practical. I would like to vote against every party as well. I find the biggest issues to me and vote according to them alone. Right now, it's my prejudice of any party that would bring in a carbon tax and my issues with the gun registry that have me supporting the Conservatives.
The only people that carbon tax makes sense to, is the carbon tax brokers like Al Bore and their sheeple..;-)
You got it. but hey, I mean, really, Al Gore living in a 25 bedroom mansion and using 100 times the carbon as an everyday poor slob that supports him, but he must know better than us.
This gun registry saga goes on and on. I'm sure most people here know that you do have to take a firearms course before applying for a FAC which is only issued after an application was submitted to the police who conducted a background check on the applicant. The only thing Bill 391 did was to end the registration process of the long guns, all other background, mental health checks etc. etc. stayed, so I think there is really a misunderstanding of what it was about.
Why not an unregistered hand gun? Its not like there is a shortage of them in Canada.
Me too. Not to get too far off topic but this a political issue....
In several threads over the past years some have claimed that in Canada we vote for our local rep and not the leader or party. This is not true in reality. I voted for the cons the last two times because I want the long gun registry killed. Only reason. Most of what ever else they do I can live with for an election or two.
The way I see it is the results of the vote will drive a larger wedge between rural and city voters. We should perhaps change the way our electorial areas are set up. I would go with area rather than population. This would be much more fair since a city riding might only cover a few blocks while a rural one covers thousands of sq. klm. and many communities.
George Jonas: Armed citizens should look to their own security | Full Comment | National Post
The best piece yet on the subject......
The best piece yet on the subject......
Crime declined in the US because many of the children who would have been at highest risk to offend simply didn't exist due to legalized abortion first allowed in the 1970s, not because more citizens were carrying guns.
Selling guns is big business in the US which is why the firearms industry is such a powerful backer of the NRA, having a massive amount of firearms available doesn't make US citizens safer, it makes them more at risk of harm and Canadian citizens also as the guns flow across the border as part of the drug trade.
I'm not against the 2nd. Amendment in the US, I think it helps keep the government there more honest, but restricting handgun ownership and use is important and comparing old hand guns from historic times is silly. One person with a high capacity handgun(30 rounds or more) can do a massive amount of damage. We regulate things that can cause serious harm to people for a reason, maybe we should stop testing drivers, just let people find their own comfort zone on the road, why do we need building codes, enough disasters and people will smarten up right.
Guns are dangerous and they've become more so over the years. I fired my first gun years before I learned to drive, my dad did the traditional fill a jug with water and show exactly how much damage one shot can do, the impression is still with me. I took my firearms safety and hunting course when I was 16 and got my FAC not long after that. I don't have a problem registering long arms, it doesn't take away from my rights.
I have to disagree with you. 3% is 100% too many!
And don't think party politics is the only way to be involved in the community. There are plenty of ways to get involved besides through political parties. I used to be a member of a political party before, and donated much money to it too. What a waste of time and money that was. Nothing to do with whether it had good policies or not, but rather the futility of the activities. Constant infighting, debate, and wasting money trying to convince people to vote for it. That money could have gone to something more productive than just advertising. And as for the party membership, most were in it for themselves, trying to influence party policy to benefit their special interests. Now that party happened ot be the NDP, though I can't imagine it would be any different in any other party. I didn't last a year as a party member.
Bingo! What we need is something more like this:
Non-partisan democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Maybe combined with some form of this:
Plurality-at-large voting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Once parties are pushed out of the way, then maybe we could move past partisan bickering in Parliament.
I agree that there are many reasons for the decline in murder in the USA......and that an older demographic is one of them. However, what is VERY clear is that allowing private citizens to carry deadly weapons for their defence did NOT increase the murder rate, if anything, it drove it down. In a free society, in the absense of evidence to the contrary, the polity must err on the side of liberty, or it has not fulfilled its responsibility.
As for the driving analogy, I have NO problem with the licensing and mandatory training of people that own and would carry deadly weapons, in fact, I would insist on it.
No offense, but if you really have no problem registering your guns, you either haven't been paying attention, or you really don't care much about them.
The government has been seizing long guns for over 20 years.
The Conservatives will not be in power forever, and both the Liberals and the NDP ran in 2006 on platforms that included gun bans.....the Liberals promised to ban all handguns, the NDP promised to ban all semi-automatics.....including non-restricted hunting long guns. Elect them into a coalition government.....and wave bye-bye to your old Remington 1100, or your Winchester 100, or ever your .22 Long Rifle 10/22.