Alcohol vs Marijuana - what do you think?

[Socrates the Greek]

I'm one of those guys who have smoked pot for over thirty years, I have a job, house, car whatever, just an ordinary person. I have also quit smoking several times in that time frame and suffered no withdrawal symptoms what so ever(I quit alcohol permenantly because it can be addictive)The last thing you want to do when smoking pot is commit crime.. it's too much trouble.

Bravo Lester!

 

[s_lone]

I disagree, soc, there have been deaths as a result of drivers being under the influence of weed... I consider that a form of violence. Anyway can you prove that comment??

While I don't believe pot makes people violent (it's rather the opposite), I do think pot can confuse people a lot. In some particular cases, confusion can lead to violence in the same way a terrified dog could bite you. Too much pot can seriously mix you up and if taken at the wrong place at the wrong time, it can lead to sad results.

My brother, with who I get along very well, once attacked me physically in a state of extreme confusion caused by too much alcohol, pot and sleep deprivation. While, I know it's the alcohol that caused him to be more agressive than usual, it was the pot combined with sleep deprivation that triggered the extreme confusion, which led to his act of agression against me. It wasn't a pretty site and it took me a solid half hour to calm him down and bring him back to earth... he then started crying, absolutely clueless of what had just happened. This may sound like a trivial example but my point is that pot can seriously screw your mind if taken at a time when your mental health is weak.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

While I don't believe pot makes people violent (it's rather the opposite), I do think pot can confuse people a lot. In some particular cases, confusion can lead to violence in the same way a terrified dog could bite you. Too much pot can seriously mix you up and if taken at the wrong place at the wrong time, it can lead to sad results.

My brother, with who I get along very well, once attacked me physically in a state of extreme confusion caused by too much alcohol, pot and sleep deprivation. While, I know it's the alcohol that caused him to be more agressive than usual, it was the pot combined with sleep deprivation that triggered the extreme confusion, which led to his act of agression against me. It wasn't a pretty site and it took me a solid half hour to calm him down and bring him back to earth... he then started crying, absolutely clueless of what had just happened. This may sound like a trivial example but my point is that pot can seriously screw your mind if taken at a time when your mental health is weak.

:roll:

 

[Ron in Regina]

Long and short of the deal is...Booze is legal, and Weed is not. Most people are too lazy
to invest the time to make their own alcohol, so it's easy to tax. Marijuana (it's not called "Weed"
just because it's green) will grown almost anywhere as long as it's got some warmth and light and
water. If anyone can grow it (some better than others but that's a different story) with almost a 100%
success rate, how do you regulate (=tax) a product like Marijuana??? It's almost impossible and thus
no revenue for Government...but...if it's illegal, tax's can be raised and allocated to enforce Marijuana
staying as an illegal (=non-taxable) substance. I haven't touched Weed in about fifteen years now as
I just got tired of it and just quit. No big thing. Right now I'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes (I haven't
had one in four days now) and it's a real fight.

As far as the "Truckers on Uppers" thing goes, that was a big issue at one time but then came
the US DOT FMCSA with oddles of regulations (more or less mirrored by Transport Canada) and the
"Hours of Service" regulations which remove any "advantage" staying awake for days might have had.
The H.O.S. rules enable any Law Enforcement Officer to request a Drivers Daily Logs along with any
supporting documents (fuel receipts, customs documents, toll receipts, etc...). Unlike someone with
private plates and insurance, a commercial vehicle can be pulled over at anytime without cause for an
inspection. All commercial drivers operating anything with a GVW over 26,000lbs not only get drug
tested every year (as a minimum), but are entered into a random pool and can get the call for a pee
test at any time. The impaired Trucker would be very few and far between as they would get screened
out before very long at all. A positive test for Marijuana to a trucker means loosing his/her commercial
license = loosing their job = loosing their truck ($2500+ monthly payment is tough to make when the
wheels aren't turning) = loosing their home and perhaps their family...all over a toke or even just being
around someone smoking up??? Marijuana might be harmless to most people unless you light up too
near a Trucker and he pop's you in the mouth on his way out the door.

 

[Nuggler]

IMHO, over time, booze and or pot can mess ya up, if you overindulge.

I have absolutely no scientific proof or "links" to prove this, just a bunch of dead friends and broken marriages and families- not mine, thank whasshisname.

"Proof" enough for me. Sounds corny, but moderation in all things usually is best, no?:idea:

 

[scratch]

IMHO, over time, booze and or pot can mess ya up, if you overindulge.

I have absolutely no scientific proof or "links" to prove this, just a bunch of dead friends and broken marriages and families- not mine, thank whasshisname.

"Proof" enough for me. Sounds corny, but moderation in all things usually is best, no?:idea:

.........YES.......
:-|

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Long and short of the deal is...Booze is legal, and Weed is not. Most people are too lazy
to invest the time to make their own alcohol, so it's easy to tax. Marijuana (it's not called "Weed"
just because it's green) will grown almost anywhere as long as it's got some warmth and light and
water. If anyone can grow it (some better than others but that's a different story) with almost a 100%
success rate, how do you regulate (=tax) a product like Marijuana??? It's almost impossible and thus
no revenue for Government...but...if it's illegal, tax's can be raised and allocated to enforce Marijuana
staying as an illegal (=non-taxable) substance. I haven't touched Weed in about fifteen years now as
I just got tired of it and just quit. No big thing. Right now I'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes (I haven't
had one in four days now) and it's a real fight.

As far as the "Truckers on Uppers" thing goes, that was a big issue at one time but then came
the US DOT FMCSA with oddles of regulations (more or less mirrored by Transport Canada) and the
"Hours of Service" regulations which remove any "advantage" staying awake for days might have had.
The H.O.S. rules enable any Law Enforcement Officer to request a Drivers Daily Logs along with any
supporting documents (fuel receipts, customs documents, toll receipts, etc...). Unlike someone with
private plates and insurance, a commercial vehicle can be pulled over at anytime without cause for an
inspection. All commercial drivers operating anything with a GVW over 26,000lbs not only get drug
tested every year (as a minimum), but are entered into a random pool and can get the call for a pee
test at any time. The impaired Trucker would be very few and far between as they would get screened
out before very long at all. A positive test for Marijuana to a trucker means loosing his/her commercial
license = loosing their job = loosing their truck ($2500+ monthly payment is tough to make when the
wheels aren't turning) = loosing their home and perhaps their family...all over a toke or even just being
around someone smoking up??? Marijuana might be harmless to most people unless you light up too
near a Trucker and he pop's you in the mouth on his way out the door.

:roll:

 

[Risus]

Long and short of the deal is...Booze is legal, and Weed is not. Most people are too lazy
to invest the time to make their own alcohol, so it's easy to tax. Marijuana (it's not called "Weed"
just because it's green) will grown almost anywhere as long as it's got some warmth and light and
water. If anyone can grow it (some better than others but that's a different story) with almost a 100%
success rate, how do you regulate (=tax) a product like Marijuana??? It's almost impossible and thus
no revenue for Government...but...if it's illegal, tax's can be raised and allocated to enforce Marijuana
staying as an illegal (=non-taxable) substance. I haven't touched Weed in about fifteen years now as
I just got tired of it and just quit. No big thing. Right now I'm trying to quit smoking cigarettes (I haven't
had one in four days now) and it's a real fight.

As far as the "Truckers on Uppers" thing goes, that was a big issue at one time but then came
the US DOT FMCSA with oddles of regulations (more or less mirrored by Transport Canada) and the
"Hours of Service" regulations which remove any "advantage" staying awake for days might have had.
The H.O.S. rules enable any Law Enforcement Officer to request a Drivers Daily Logs along with any
supporting documents (fuel receipts, customs documents, toll receipts, etc...). Unlike someone with
private plates and insurance, a commercial vehicle can be pulled over at anytime without cause for an
inspection. All commercial drivers operating anything with a GVW over 26,000lbs not only get drug
tested every year (as a minimum), but are entered into a random pool and can get the call for a pee
test at any time. The impaired Trucker would be very few and far between as they would get screened
out before very long at all. A positive test for Marijuana to a trucker means loosing his/her commercial
license = loosing their job = loosing their truck ($2500+ monthly payment is tough to make when the
wheels aren't turning) = loosing their home and perhaps their family...all over a toke or even just being
around someone smoking up??? Marijuana might be harmless to most people unless you light up too
near a Trucker and he pop's you in the mouth on his way out the door.

LOL, right on!

 

[darkbeaver]

Marijuana is mexican ditch weed. I smoke cannibis, indica sativa hybreds. I hooded a few plants this year for an early sample harvest. Induced flowering of outside cannibis allows you to take advantage of peak UVB, during this brief period is the best light for THC conversion. You will produce very good smoke because of process completion only when you use the very strongest UVB.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Marijuana is mexican ditch weed. I smoke cannibis, indica sativa hybreds. I hooded a few plants this year for an early sample harvest. Induced flowering of outside cannibis allows you to take advantage of peak UVB, during this brief period is the best light for THC conversion. You will produce very good smoke because of process completion only when you use the very strongest UVB.

Hey darkbeaver, here in BC we call it “DUB C B” in order to keep others in the dark. Hahah, have fun, good post by the way…….

 

[Risus]

I see we have a number of criminals on this board....

 

[Socrates the Greek]

I see we have a number of criminals on this board....

Good pal, how are you? You can be cop if you like an arrest us all, for talking about it. Haahhha:smile:

 

[Risus]

Good pal, how are you? You can be cop if you like an arrest us all, for talking about it. Haahhha:smile:

I'm ok, and you??

Better keep an eye behind you...

 

[darkbeaver]

I see we have a number of criminals on this board....

Well Risus this site was highly recommended by my parole officer as a place to aquire social skills that would allow my full intergration into the public mainstream, something I'm keen to do if for no other reason than to meet new victims/customers. :lol:

 

[Socrates the Greek]

I'm ok, and you??

Better keep an eye behind you...

I always do........

 

[Unforgiven]

This isn't a contest at all you sneaky bastards! heh heh

I like both actually. I have a lot of fun with it and enjoy the taste of Guinness and Bushmill's Black Bush most of all. I prefer a Sativa over an Indica and the few times I've had Haze, enjoyed myself thoroughly. I don't mind a frozen shot of Sambuca or two now and again. Especially when I'm in a creative mood or out with a few friends some place wild.

Most people I've met don't really know how to drink or smoke and end up unable to manage much after a few hours. Mostly just get into trouble or **** up and go home.Those few I know that do, I think could probably go for days and days with might be kind of an interesting thing to try out with them some time.

Prohibition is more about making money than it is about reducing the harmful impact booze and drugs have on people. As for pot, the worst thing that could happen to it is legalization. Decriminalization is what I've always wanted. Take one big chunk of money out of the hands of Organized Crime. Let people grow their own. Those who want to will, those who don't won't have to pay out all the money that goes into investigation and enforcement.

 

[Risus]

This isn't a contest at all you sneaky bastards! heh heh

I like both actually. I have a lot of fun with it and enjoy the taste of Guinness and Bushmill's Black Bush most of all. I prefer a Sativa over an Indica and the few times I've had Haze, enjoyed myself thoroughly. I don't mind a frozen shot of Sambuca or two now and again. Especially when I'm in a creative mood or out with a few friends some place wild.

Most people I've met don't really know how to drink or smoke and end up unable to manage much after a few hours. Mostly just get into trouble or **** up and go home.Those few I know that do, I think could probably go for days and days with might be kind of an interesting thing to try out with them some time.

Maybe you need to make new friends! ;-)

 

[talloola]

They are both crap, do something better with your time and money, and if you have to
take 'anything' to change your emotional level, then you need to figure out why, not
mask it with some drug.
I've heard all the different statements 'above' from all sorts of different sources, so, it
seems no one really knows much of anything about marijuana at all, but I sure know how
evil alchohol can be, learned that as a little girl, ruined our family.

 

[Unforgiven]

Maybe you need to make new friends! ;-)

Why would that be?

 

[lone wolf]

I see we have a number of criminals on this board....

Your point is? Guess what.... It cost two Lindsay cops their badges to hang this one on me so who do you suppose the criminals were?