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Serryah

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Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.
 
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Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.
Might not work so well for basketball, North American football, hockey, and other sports that are optimized to the male physique (and temperament).
 

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Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.
While golfing in mixed events I would think the women used the red tees and the boys used white or blues .
 

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Might not work so well for basketball, North American football, hockey, and other sports that are optimized to the male physique (and temperament).

Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.
 

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French first lady appeals in gender rumours case: lawyer
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Published Jul 14, 2025 • 1 minute read

Brigitte Macron has been the target of online rumours for years.
Paris (AFP) — France’s first lady has taken her case against two women over claims she used to be man to the highest appeals court after a lower court let them off, her lawyer said Monday.


On Thursday, the Paris appeals court overturned earlier convictions against the two women for spreading false claims — that went viral online — that Brigitte Macron, 72, used to be a man.


Disinformation on Macron’s gender has circulated on social media for years. Her 24-year age difference with President Emmanuel Macron has also attracted much comment.

Brigitte Macron filed a libel complaint against the two women after they posted a YouTube video in December 2021, alleging she had once been a man named Jean-Michel Trogneux — who is actually Brigitte Macron’s brother.

In the video, defendant Amandine Roy, a self-proclaimed spiritual medium, interviewed Natacha Rey, a self-described independent journalist, for four hours on her YouTube channel.


Rey spoke about the “state lie” and “scam” she claimed to have uncovered that Jean-Michel Trogneux had changed gender to become Brigitte, and then married the future president.

The claim went viral, including among conspiracy theorists in the United States.

A lower court in September last year had ordered the two women to pay 8,000 euros ($9,400) in damages to Brigitte Macron, and 5,000 euros to her brother.

Brigitte Macron’s lawyer Jean Ennochi told AFP Sunday that her brother, too, was taking his case against the dismissal of the charges to the highest appeals court, the Court de Cassation.
 

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Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.
You've never played a league sport have you?

Why do we never see the female figure skater toss her male partner in the air and then catch him?
 
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Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.
I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.
 
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I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.
More brains, less testosterone.
 
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I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.

Not sure about team dynamics; when I played mixed softball it was more about 'who wants to play' and some teams had more women, some less.

Is the lack of mixed teams in contact sports due to this belief that women can't do contact sports, or lack of women wanting to be in them (whether due to lack of resources, interest or other)? I realize stories lately of girls and women actually going against men in contact sports (wrestling, football, etc) are rare, they're still happening and it's still a "shock" to most people. I think it's more the social pressure of it still being 'weird' that women would want to do sports that are contact.

Since I didn't know how many women are drivers, I looked it up; shit loads more than I even thought.


And then this, which is pretty much the "lack of women wanting to be in them" more than how women "Can't do it".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesm...llenge-men-in-formula-1-says-more-than-equal/

As for speeds - I've looked and nothing shows they race slower than what men would race at so... *shrug*
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Caitlin Clark can't play on the local basketball team. She's not good enough.

Cuz she's JUST a GURL!

True fact: Lisa Leslie (4 Olympic gold medals, two WNBA championships, three-time WNBA MVP) played the 1994-1995 season for Sicilgesso in the Italian men's league, because there was no pro women's basketball in the U.S.

When your society is more sexist than the Italians, you probably need to pause and reflect.
 
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Altered Canadian flag on display at consulate in Hong Kong
Altering the Canadian flag to suit any cause or event violates the government's own rules on how the flag is to be displayed


Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Jul 16, 2025 • 4 minute read

The Canadian flag with an altered Canadian flag at the consulate in Hong Kong. SUPPLIED FOR JOE WARMINGTON COLUMN
The Canadian flag, left, with an altered Canadian flag at the consulate in Hong Kong. SUPPLIED
Somebody within the employ of the Canadian government secretly changed the Canadian flag and put it on display in a foreign office for the world to see.


Others have posted the redesigned maple leaf flags on social media too.


The Canadian government’s website is very clear that at no time is it legal to alter the Canadian flag in any way.

“The dimensions/proportions of the National Flag of Canada have an exact ratio of 2 to 1 (twice as long as it is wide), and must not be modified,” says the government. “The National Flag of Canada should not be written on or marked in any way, nor be covered by other objects.”

And yet, in the Canadian consulate in Hong Kong, an altered Canadian flag was recently displayed in the lobby with a rainbow of colours added to the red maple leaf. One image sent to us by a person who was in the office recently on business shows the red colour usually on both ends of the flag has been replaced with purple, blue, green, yellow and orange stripes.


This is against protocol.

“Nothing should be pinned or sewn on the National Flag of Canada,” the web site clearly states.

They have violated their own requirements — and not just in a meme but in other Canadian offices which represent the country abroad.

So, what does the Prime Minister’s Office or Canadian Heritage have to say about this?


Stay tuned. Neither has commented so far. But Global Affairs Canada says it is working on a statement.

As officials look into it, they will learn it’s not the first time this has happened in both the Hong Kong office and other Canadian consulates in Asia, including the consular office in Japan which also has shared online a similar flag to celebrate the “Kansai Rainbow Fiesta.”


A post on the X platform from 2016 shows staff standing in that same lobby doing a photo op with a similar flag that had a rainbow of colours.

Canadian flag with Pride colours
Canadian flag with Pride colours — from Canada Facebook page.
“The Canadian pride flag is up at our offices the month of June to celebrate Canada’s first Pride Month,” said a Facebook post from Consulate General of Canada in Hong Kong and Macao on June 2, 2016. “Take part in our Facebook challenge to share your pride with Canada and for a chance to win Canadian Ice wine.”

But the latest pictures were taken last month at the Consulate General of Canada, Hong Kong, located at the Berkshire House in Quarry Bay, Hong Kong by a Canadian who laid a complaint with staff there. Not out of any concern for celebrating whatever it was they were celebrating but at the unlawful change to the Canadian flag and what legally amounts to a “desecration” of it.


“As you walk into the front lobby, this is what greets you,” said the Canadian who was there for consular assistance. “Unbelievable.”

But this seems to be routine now.

Last month, the federal government’s @canada social media account — with more than a million followers — showed a bastardized Canadian flag with the additional colours alongside a comment saying, “in Canada we know that diversity is our strength and we love to celebrate it,” and “this #BeingYouDay, let it be a reminder to be authentically yourself and celebrate all the things that make you, YOU!”

But it’s not us. And the Canadian flag represents all of us — not one group or one agenda. All groups and all agendas.

It’s just not legal to make this change. Laws and protocols would have to be changed by parliament to do so. It’s an interesting time to be changing the flag when Prime Minister Mark Carney and many others have been doing battle with U.S. President Donald Trump over Canadian sovereignty.


The same crowd, like Canadian-American actor Mike Myers and his “Elbows Up” campaign, who made such a noise over Trump’s 51st state rhetoric, seem to be silent about this. The red and white maple leaf flag is part of Canada’s sovereignty and uniqueness which came into being 60 years ago on Feb. 15, 1965.


That flag, as it is, means so much to so many — especially people who came to Canada from war zones or tyranny. I saw that myself when Afghan interpreter to Canadian and NATO forces Ahmad “Radar” Sidiqi arrived in Canada with his family after pure hell while facing the potential of murder, kidnapping and torture at the hands of the Taliban. He and his wife have now had a baby here and all of them are as Canadian as Canadian can be, They are proud of that flag as is.


The Canadian troops I met in Afghanistan were the same way. They were proud of that flag as it is. And would never change it.

Like not being a hyphenated Canadian, the flag is not shared with other agendas. It’s Canada first.



It’s OK to wear the Canadian flag on a sports sweater at the Olympics or on a hard hat when Carney did in an X post of a recent trip to a construction site. However, the Canadian flag is not there to change up for one’s personal tastes or promote someone’s cause or celebration.

It’s not legal to change the look, colours and design.

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