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Serryah

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Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.
 
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Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.
Might not work so well for basketball, North American football, hockey, and other sports that are optimized to the male physique (and temperament).
 

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Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.
While golfing in mixed events I would think the women used the red tees and the boys used white or blues .
 

Serryah

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Might not work so well for basketball, North American football, hockey, and other sports that are optimized to the male physique (and temperament).

Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.
 

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French first lady appeals in gender rumours case: lawyer
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Brigitte Macron has been the target of online rumours for years.
Paris (AFP) — France’s first lady has taken her case against two women over claims she used to be man to the highest appeals court after a lower court let them off, her lawyer said Monday.


On Thursday, the Paris appeals court overturned earlier convictions against the two women for spreading false claims — that went viral online — that Brigitte Macron, 72, used to be a man.


Disinformation on Macron’s gender has circulated on social media for years. Her 24-year age difference with President Emmanuel Macron has also attracted much comment.

Brigitte Macron filed a libel complaint against the two women after they posted a YouTube video in December 2021, alleging she had once been a man named Jean-Michel Trogneux — who is actually Brigitte Macron’s brother.

In the video, defendant Amandine Roy, a self-proclaimed spiritual medium, interviewed Natacha Rey, a self-described independent journalist, for four hours on her YouTube channel.


Rey spoke about the “state lie” and “scam” she claimed to have uncovered that Jean-Michel Trogneux had changed gender to become Brigitte, and then married the future president.

The claim went viral, including among conspiracy theorists in the United States.

A lower court in September last year had ordered the two women to pay 8,000 euros ($9,400) in damages to Brigitte Macron, and 5,000 euros to her brother.

Brigitte Macron’s lawyer Jean Ennochi told AFP Sunday that her brother, too, was taking his case against the dismissal of the charges to the highest appeals court, the Court de Cassation.
 

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Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.
You've never played a league sport have you?

Why do we never see the female figure skater toss her male partner in the air and then catch him?
 
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Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.
I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.
 
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I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.
More brains, less testosterone.
 
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I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.

Not sure about team dynamics; when I played mixed softball it was more about 'who wants to play' and some teams had more women, some less.

Is the lack of mixed teams in contact sports due to this belief that women can't do contact sports, or lack of women wanting to be in them (whether due to lack of resources, interest or other)? I realize stories lately of girls and women actually going against men in contact sports (wrestling, football, etc) are rare, they're still happening and it's still a "shock" to most people. I think it's more the social pressure of it still being 'weird' that women would want to do sports that are contact.

Since I didn't know how many women are drivers, I looked it up; shit loads more than I even thought.


And then this, which is pretty much the "lack of women wanting to be in them" more than how women "Can't do it".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesm...llenge-men-in-formula-1-says-more-than-equal/

As for speeds - I've looked and nothing shows they race slower than what men would race at so... *shrug*
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Caitlin Clark can't play on the local basketball team. She's not good enough.

Cuz she's JUST a GURL!

True fact: Lisa Leslie (4 Olympic gold medals, two WNBA championships, three-time WNBA MVP) played the 1994-1995 season for Sicilgesso in the Italian men's league, because there was no pro women's basketball in the U.S.

When your society is more sexist than the Italians, you probably need to pause and reflect.
 
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