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[Serryah]

Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.

Might not work so well for basketball, North American football, hockey, and other sports that are optimized to the male physique (and temperament).

 

[Ron in Regina]

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

Social interaction.

 

[pgs]

Thought just occurred to me.

If women and men are so different that all sports need separate classes, then why is there mixed league/co-ed sports?

I golfed as a teen, I not only played Jr./Senior tournaments but also mixed league once I was over 16.

Then there's mixed league baseball/softball.

Mixed league darts.

Pool.

Kind'a goes against the "women are weaker/not as capable thus need to only compete against their own gender" excuses.

While golfing in mixed events I would think the women used the red tees and the boys used white or blues .

 

[Serryah]

Might not work so well for basketball, North American football, hockey, and other sports that are optimized to the male physique (and temperament).

Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.

 

[spaminator]

French first lady appeals in gender rumours case: lawyer
Author of the article:AFP
AFP
Published Jul 14, 2025 • 1 minute read

Brigitte Macron has been the target of online rumours for years.
Paris (AFP) — France’s first lady has taken her case against two women over claims she used to be man to the highest appeals court after a lower court let them off, her lawyer said Monday.


On Thursday, the Paris appeals court overturned earlier convictions against the two women for spreading false claims — that went viral online — that Brigitte Macron, 72, used to be a man.


Disinformation on Macron’s gender has circulated on social media for years. Her 24-year age difference with President Emmanuel Macron has also attracted much comment.

Brigitte Macron filed a libel complaint against the two women after they posted a YouTube video in December 2021, alleging she had once been a man named Jean-Michel Trogneux — who is actually Brigitte Macron’s brother.

In the video, defendant Amandine Roy, a self-proclaimed spiritual medium, interviewed Natacha Rey, a self-described independent journalist, for four hours on her YouTube channel.


Rey spoke about the “state lie” and “scam” she claimed to have uncovered that Jean-Michel Trogneux had changed gender to become Brigitte, and then married the future president.

The claim went viral, including among conspiracy theorists in the United States.

A lower court in September last year had ordered the two women to pay 8,000 euros ($9,400) in damages to Brigitte Macron, and 5,000 euros to her brother.

Brigitte Macron’s lawyer Jean Ennochi told AFP Sunday that her brother, too, was taking his case against the dismissal of the charges to the highest appeals court, the Court de Cassation.

French first lady appeals in gender rumours case: lawyer

France's first lady has taken her case against two women over claims she used to be man to the highest appeals court.

torontosun.com

 

[petros]

Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.

You've never played a league sport have you?

Why do we never see the female figure skater toss her male partner in the air and then catch him?

 

[petros]

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[Taxslave2]

Really?. Watch the Pros next winter. You'll see the difference clear as day.

I'll see if I have time between watching paint dry and hair falling off the dog. Both are much more exciting spectator sports.

 

[petros]

Sports

I'll see if I have time between watching paint dry and hair falling off the dog. Both are much more exciting spectator sports.

Too technical for you?

 

[Taxslave2]

Oh I agree it won't work for all types of sports, but point is, if women are so much "lesser", then why are there co-ed leagues?

I just think it's interesting is all.

I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.

More brains, less testosterone.

 

[Serryah]

I think that works because all teams have to have a minimum number of women. Theoretically balanced. There are not many mixed leagues in contact sports either.
Since my interest in sports is pretty much limited to those that involve pistons, I have noticed that there are not many women involved in any of them. Even at the local level, powder puff races are noticeably slower and less crashes. The less crashes is more likely due to lower speed than anything. I'm not aware of any studies on it either, but I always kind of thought that women have a better survival instinct than men.

Not sure about team dynamics; when I played mixed softball it was more about 'who wants to play' and some teams had more women, some less.

Is the lack of mixed teams in contact sports due to this belief that women can't do contact sports, or lack of women wanting to be in them (whether due to lack of resources, interest or other)? I realize stories lately of girls and women actually going against men in contact sports (wrestling, football, etc) are rare, they're still happening and it's still a "shock" to most people. I think it's more the social pressure of it still being 'weird' that women would want to do sports that are contact.

Since I didn't know how many women are drivers, I looked it up; shit loads more than I even thought.

List of female racing drivers - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And then this, which is pretty much the "lack of women wanting to be in them" more than how women "Can't do it".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesm...llenge-men-in-formula-1-says-more-than-equal/

As for speeds - I've looked and nothing shows they race slower than what men would race at so... *shrug*

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Caitlin Clark can't play on the local basketball team. She's not good enough.

Cuz she's JUST a GURL!

True fact: Lisa Leslie (4 Olympic gold medals, two WNBA championships, three-time WNBA MVP) played the 1994-1995 season for Sicilgesso in the Italian men's league, because there was no pro women's basketball in the U.S.

When your society is more sexist than the Italians, you probably need to pause and reflect.

 

[spaminator]

Altered Canadian flag on display at consulate in Hong Kong
Altering the Canadian flag to suit any cause or event violates the government's own rules on how the flag is to be displayed


Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Jul 16, 2025 • 4 minute read

The Canadian flag with an altered Canadian flag at the consulate in Hong Kong. SUPPLIED FOR JOE WARMINGTON COLUMN
The Canadian flag, left, with an altered Canadian flag at the consulate in Hong Kong. SUPPLIED
Somebody within the employ of the Canadian government secretly changed the Canadian flag and put it on display in a foreign office for the world to see.


Others have posted the redesigned maple leaf flags on social media too.


The Canadian government’s website is very clear that at no time is it legal to alter the Canadian flag in any way.

“The dimensions/proportions of the National Flag of Canada have an exact ratio of 2 to 1 (twice as long as it is wide), and must not be modified,” says the government. “The National Flag of Canada should not be written on or marked in any way, nor be covered by other objects.”

And yet, in the Canadian consulate in Hong Kong, an altered Canadian flag was recently displayed in the lobby with a rainbow of colours added to the red maple leaf. One image sent to us by a person who was in the office recently on business shows the red colour usually on both ends of the flag has been replaced with purple, blue, green, yellow and orange stripes.


This is against protocol.

“Nothing should be pinned or sewn on the National Flag of Canada,” the web site clearly states.

They have violated their own requirements — and not just in a meme but in other Canadian offices which represent the country abroad.

So, what does the Prime Minister’s Office or Canadian Heritage have to say about this?


Stay tuned. Neither has commented so far. But Global Affairs Canada says it is working on a statement.

As officials look into it, they will learn it’s not the first time this has happened in both the Hong Kong office and other Canadian consulates in Asia, including the consular office in Japan which also has shared online a similar flag to celebrate the “Kansai Rainbow Fiesta.”


A post on the X platform from 2016 shows staff standing in that same lobby doing a photo op with a similar flag that had a rainbow of colours.

Canadian flag with Pride colours
Canadian flag with Pride colours — from Canada Facebook page.
“The Canadian pride flag is up at our offices the month of June to celebrate Canada’s first Pride Month,” said a Facebook post from Consulate General of Canada in Hong Kong and Macao on June 2, 2016. “Take part in our Facebook challenge to share your pride with Canada and for a chance to win Canadian Ice wine.”

But the latest pictures were taken last month at the Consulate General of Canada, Hong Kong, located at the Berkshire House in Quarry Bay, Hong Kong by a Canadian who laid a complaint with staff there. Not out of any concern for celebrating whatever it was they were celebrating but at the unlawful change to the Canadian flag and what legally amounts to a “desecration” of it.


“As you walk into the front lobby, this is what greets you,” said the Canadian who was there for consular assistance. “Unbelievable.”

But this seems to be routine now.

Last month, the federal government’s @canada social media account — with more than a million followers — showed a bastardized Canadian flag with the additional colours alongside a comment saying, “in Canada we know that diversity is our strength and we love to celebrate it,” and “this #BeingYouDay, let it be a reminder to be authentically yourself and celebrate all the things that make you, YOU!”

But it’s not us. And the Canadian flag represents all of us — not one group or one agenda. All groups and all agendas.

It’s just not legal to make this change. Laws and protocols would have to be changed by parliament to do so. It’s an interesting time to be changing the flag when Prime Minister Mark Carney and many others have been doing battle with U.S. President Donald Trump over Canadian sovereignty.


The same crowd, like Canadian-American actor Mike Myers and his “Elbows Up” campaign, who made such a noise over Trump’s 51st state rhetoric, seem to be silent about this. The red and white maple leaf flag is part of Canada’s sovereignty and uniqueness which came into being 60 years ago on Feb. 15, 1965.


That flag, as it is, means so much to so many — especially people who came to Canada from war zones or tyranny. I saw that myself when Afghan interpreter to Canadian and NATO forces Ahmad “Radar” Sidiqi arrived in Canada with his family after pure hell while facing the potential of murder, kidnapping and torture at the hands of the Taliban. He and his wife have now had a baby here and all of them are as Canadian as Canadian can be, They are proud of that flag as is.


The Canadian troops I met in Afghanistan were the same way. They were proud of that flag as it is. And would never change it.

Like not being a hyphenated Canadian, the flag is not shared with other agendas. It’s Canada first.



It’s OK to wear the Canadian flag on a sports sweater at the Olympics or on a hard hat when Carney did in an X post of a recent trip to a construction site. However, the Canadian flag is not there to change up for one’s personal tastes or promote someone’s cause or celebration.

It’s not legal to change the look, colours and design.

jwarmington@postmedia.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1936808918878937488

Do's and don'ts when displaying the flag - National Flag of Canada - Canada.ca

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WARMINGTON: Altered Canadian flag on display at consulate in Hong Kong

Somebody within the Canadian government secretly changed the Canadian flag and put it on display in a foreign office for the world to see.

torontosun.com

 

[spaminator]

Non-binary person’s U.S. deportation paused due to risks faced by LGBTQ+ people
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
David Baxter
Published Jul 17, 2025 • 4 minute read

OTTAWA — A non-binary American is being allowed to temporarily stay in Canada after deportation proceedings were paused by a judge who said an immigration officer did not consider the potential dangers facing LGBTQ+ people in the U.S.


Angel Jenkel was scheduled for removal on July 3, but received a stay of removal on July 2 until a judicial review of the decision can be completed.


“Something that I’ve thought of repetitively in this process is that if I am to return, it’s not to the same country that I left,” Jenkel said in an interview with The Canadian Press.

Jenkel came to Canada in August 2022 to visit the man who is now their fiance. Jenkel said that for the first two months his health was fine, but eventually his epilepsy brought on “pretty bad” seizures.

“I started taking care of him and kind of lost track of time because nobody else was taking care of him at the time,” Jenkel said.

Canadian visitor visas expire after six months, and a visitor who stays longer can be deported.


Facing removal, Jenkel applied to have a pre-removal risk assessment heard by an immigration officer. During these hearings, applicants need to demonstrate that there is a risk of real harm if they are removed from Canada. Jenkel was self-represented at the hearing.

They said the officer decided they did not bring forward enough evidence that their removal to the U.S. would result in irreparable harm.

Jenkel, now represented by Smith Immigration Law — a Toronto-based immigration law firm specializing in helping LGBTQ+ clients, applied for a stay of removal arguing that the officer made an error by relying on outdated information about the U.S.

According to Justice Julie Blackhawk’s decision, the immigration officer based the removal order on the most recent U.S. National Documentation Package used by the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada dated Jan. 31, 2024.


These packages are reference guides for countries that contain information on a variety of topics about a country including its human rights record, demographics and how sexual minorities are treated.

Before this year, the U.S. National Documentation Package had been updated annually since 2018 based on publicly available information.

The Immigration and Refugee Board website says that updates to these packages may be delayed “in periods of rapid change and/or uncertainty.”

“One of our arguments that we said at the hearing was that because of the notoriety of everything that President (Donald) Trump has done with respect to the trans and non-binary community. Angel had assumed that the officer would be aware of how much the country conditions had changed just in the space of a matter of a year,” lawyer Adrienne Smith said.


“So, it was shocking that the officer had not considered the whole period from January 2024 until they made a decision on the (pre-removal risk assessment) application when that is really the whole period that caused Angel to make that risk assessment.”

Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada has not yet responded with a comment as requested.

Just hours after being sworn back into office in January, Trump signed an executive order to only recognize two genders in the U.S. — male and female. The order had ramifications across the country, including the removal of what Trump calls “gender ideology” from all federal government websites, the end to reporting statistics on transgender people who are incarcerated and a decision by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to delete lessons on how to make schools supportive environments for transgender and non-binary students.


“My state’s one of the only states that’s still protecting trans people so who knows how long that’s even going to last when things are going as crazy as they’re going,” Jenkel said, referencing the assassination of Minnesota Democratic house speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband last month.

“Then on top of that, all of my family lives in the South for the most part. Like, I just have my grandpa and my uncle in Minnesota and a friend that is willing to help me out if I end up there.”

Justice Blackhawk says in her decision that “it was not reasonable” for the officer to rely on the current National Documentation Package “given the public’s general awareness of the evolving situation in the U.S.”

For a stay of removal to be approved the applicant, in this case Jenkel, needs to show that being deported would cause irreparable harm.


Blackhawk says that Jenkel’s case satisfies all these criteria due to the use of old information in the removal order, risk to their fiance in losing a primary caregiver and little risk to the Canadian public if Jenkel stays in the country.

Sarah Mikhail, Jenkel’s other lawyer, said that immigration officers have a responsibility to be “well-versed” on the country conditions they may be sending someone back to.

“This onus is actually higher when the applicant is self-represented, that they are well knowledgeable of the conditions in the country of origin,” Mikhail said.

“From the record and the officer’s decision, it was clear that they didn’t necessarily demonstrate that they were considering the conditions that Angel would be returned back to and that was the difference.”

Jenkel can now stay in Canada until a judicial review of the removal decision is complete. If that result finds in their favour, Jenkel’s application to stay in Canada will be reopened and reviewed by a different officer.

Non-binary person’s U.S. deportation paused due to risks faced by LGBTQ+ people

A non-binary American is being allowed to temporarily stay in Canada after deportation proceedings were paused by a judge.

torontosun.com

 

[spaminator]

Candidate in federal Alberta byelection stops door-knocking due to death threats
She attributes the threats and other derogatory messages she has received to her advocacy for transgender people during her campaign in the Battle River-Crowfoot riding.

Author of the article:Fakiha Baig, The Canadian Press
Published Jul 17, 2025 • 2 minute read

Sarah Spanier is an independent candidate running in the Aug. 18 Battle River-Crowfoot byelection.
Sarah Spanier is an independent candidate running in the Aug. 18 Battle River-Crowfoot byelection.
An Independent candidate running in a rural Alberta byelection says she has stopped door-knocking because of death threats.


Sarah Spanier, 33, of Castor, says she has told Mounties about the online threats, which include a social media comment saying she would be met with a shotgun if she showed up at someone’s door.


She attributes the threats and other derogatory messages she has received to her advocacy for transgender people during her campaign in the Battle River-Crowfoot riding, which encompasses communities such as Camrose, Drumheller and Wainwright.

(Some) were ambiguous like, ‘If you come to my door, you don’t know what’s going to happen,'” Spanier said in an interview Thursday.

“It’s unfortunate. I’ve had supporters who have also been very quiet in supporting me because they fear for their safety and their business, which is really, really heartbreaking to hear.”


Spanier is one of almost 80 candidates running in Battle River-Crowfoot, the riding won handily by Conservative Damien Kurek in the April general election.

Kurek stepped down to allow Pierre Poilievre to run in a byelection after the party leader lost his seat in the Ottawa riding of Carleton.

Spanier, who entered the race in early May, said she now is exclusively campaigning online and at public events.

“I would like to go door-knocking. It’s just a matter of finding people who feel safe enough to come with me and who I feel will be able to protect themselves if needed,” she said.

Spanier said she is still hopeful she will win the byelection.

“Even though I’ve had people just completely tear me down, I have also had conversations with those people which have turned into signatures because they listen and they understand,” she said.

She said RCMP have recommended Spanier block the hateful online commentators and told her those who threaten are unlikely to act on it.

Spanier said she is staying vigilant as she has seen comments online from people asking for her home address.

“Being in a small town, it is very easy for somebody who doesn’t like me here to give my address out to anybody who wants it,” she said.

Voters go to the polls Aug. 18.

Candidate in federal Alberta byelection stops door-knocking due to death threats

She attributes the threats and other derogatory messages she has received to her advocacy for transgender people.

torontosun.com