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Funny how it's child-rearing except when it scares you.

You sound like the folk when I was a kid having a damn stroke over any kind of sex ed, and writing outraged letters to the FCC when Kirk and Uhura kissed on Star Trek.
Big difference between two actors kissing on screen and perverts swinging their along in children’s faces .
 
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Sex ed keeps kids from having sex. Also teaches them a lot that parents won't talk about.

Here's the thing; supporting kids who are LGBTQIA+ means that those kids will grow up to be adults who are LGBTQIA+ and while people may say "it's grooming kids!" or "They can decide what they want to be when they're older", it shows 2 things about these people:

1. They don't understand that LGBTQIA+ kids exist NOW and need the support and care NOW, not when they're older. Whether that help is to pause puberty and allow social transition, or after therapy and discussions, discontinuing blockers and allow puberty to continue with the gender they were assigned, it's medical care that's being forcibly denied if people who AREN'T the patient and family/guardian have their way.

2. It's all an excuse to shove LGBTQIA+ people out of the public view and back into the closet. As well if kids get the help they need earlier, their passing for the gender they are when they're older is more likely. So the bigots and haters won't know anymore who is trans just by looking at them (or rather, they won't know trans women; trans men they don't give a damn about which is why it's more misogyny than just dislike of trans people).

Basically it's all about the need of them to hate on LBTQIA+ - especially trans - people, even kids, because their small world view is somehow more important.
If it saves one child .
 
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Sex ed keeps kids from having sex. Also teaches them a lot that parents won't talk about.

Here's the thing; supporting kids who are LGBTQIA+ means that those kids will grow up to be adults who are LGBTQIA+ and while people may say "it's grooming kids!" or "They can decide what they want to be when they're older", it shows 2 things about these people:

1. They don't understand that LGBTQIA+ kids exist NOW and need the support and care NOW, not when they're older. Whether that help is to pause puberty and allow social transition, or after therapy and discussions, discontinuing blockers and allow puberty to continue with the gender they were assigned, it's medical care that's being forcibly denied if people who AREN'T the patient and family/guardian have their way.

2. It's all an excuse to shove LGBTQIA+ people out of the public view and back into the closet. As well if kids get the help they need earlier, their passing for the gender they are when they're older is more likely. So the bigots and haters won't know anymore who is trans just by looking at them (or rather, they won't know trans women; trans men they don't give a damn about which is why it's more misogyny than just dislike of trans people).

Basically it's all about the need of them to hate on LBTQIA+ - especially trans - people, even kids, because their small world view is somehow more important.
Well, my take is:

1. LGBTQ et al kids DO NOT EXIST NOW!! They are being manipulated because it's pre-puberty and many of us went through various issues regarding that. They may FEEL they're LGBTQ et al but it's not necessarily true (unless of course ADULTS INSIST THAT IT IS).

2. It's NOT an excuse to shove LGBT et al in a closet - it's to PROTECT THE BLOODY KIDS! If they are adamant AFTER PUBERTY that they are part of the LGBT et al community, then I say - go for it. But not until they understand what they're getting into because it CANNOT BE REVERSED if they change their minds.

There is NOTHING HATEFUL about protecting our kids. When one considers that we keep being told that only .000001% of people are LGBT et al, how is it that there are so many that have all of a sudden (last 8 - 10 years or so)? It's because they're being lied to and when they get their parts chopped off, and take medication that god knows what the medication will do long term, these kids do not have the complete information so they really can't consent.

Medical people don't know what the long-term affects will be which is why it's so astonishing that they're ignoring their oath - to do no harm. This whole LGBT et al is extremely dangerous & there is still a LOT to learn about the effects of this insanity. Europe has already made that determination. Canada & the U.S. should too.
 
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Sex ed keeps kids from having sex. Also teaches them a lot that parents won't talk about.

Here's the thing; supporting kids who are LGBTQIA+ means that those kids will grow up to be adults who are LGBTQIA+ and while people may say "it's grooming kids!" or "They can decide what they want to be when they're older", it shows 2 things about these people:

1. They don't understand that LGBTQIA+ kids exist NOW and need the support and care NOW, not when they're older. Whether that help is to pause puberty and allow social transition, or after therapy and discussions, discontinuing blockers and allow puberty to continue with the gender they were assigned, it's medical care that's being forcibly denied if people who AREN'T the patient and family/guardian have their way.

2. It's all an excuse to shove LGBTQIA+ people out of the public view and back into the closet. As well if kids get the help they need earlier, their passing for the gender they are when they're older is more likely. So the bigots and haters won't know anymore who is trans just by looking at them (or rather, they won't know trans women; trans men they don't give a damn about which is why it's more misogyny than just dislike of trans people).

Basically it's all about the need of them to hate on LBTQIA+ - especially trans - people, even kids, because their small world view is somehow more important.
The kids are the important one here!!
 
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Funny how it's child-rearing except when it scares you.

You sound like the folk when I was a kid having a damn stroke over any kind of sex ed, and writing outraged letters to the FCC when Kirk and Uhura kissed on Star Trek.

I think sex education is fine, I have a problem with puberty blockers and people presenting themselves as doctors and psychologists when they hold a degree in nothing. When my middle son was going to elementary school, he came home and told me how the Premier of the Province was destroying the education system and hurting kids. The teacher was a rabid union member who couldn't separate his politics and ideology from his job of teaching the kids the assigned subjects. Now, one could argue that he was really just giving an alternative class on social studies, but the fact of the matter was it was a math class.

This stuff here is precisely what sunk Democrats, and it will sink the Liberals as well, who are already on life support.
You guys lost everything in the last election. The Senate, The House, and The Presidency. Why? Because the majority of Americans are Racist, Homophobic, Transphobic, misogynistic, Terfs, or? Is because the left went so far out there that the majority of voters think what most of think.

The Left has completely lost their fucking minds, especially with identity politics.

And their answer is to accuse anyone who does not agree of being a phobe.
 
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I think sex education is fine, I have a problem with puberty blockers and people presenting themselves as doctors and psychologists when they hold a degree in nothing. When my middle son was going to elementary school, he came home and told me how the Premier of the Province was destroying the education system and hurting kids. The teacher was a rabid union member who couldn't separate his politics and ideology from his job of teaching the kids the assigned subjects. Now, one could argue that he was really just giving an alternative class on social studies, but the fact of the matter was it was a math class.

This stuff here is precisely what sunk Democrats, and it will sink the Liberals as well, who are already on life support.
You guys lost everything in the last election. The Senate, The House, and The Presidency. Why? Because the majority of Americans are Racist, Homophobic, Transphobic, misogynistic, Terfs, or? Is because the left went so far out there that the majority of voters think what most of think.

The Left has completely lost their fucking minds, especially with identity politics.

And their answer is to accuse anyone who does not agree of being a phobe.
Like my brother tells his children , you guys pushed to hard to fast , did you not expect push back ?
 

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I think sex education is fine, I have a problem with puberty blockers and people presenting themselves as doctors and psychologists when they hold a degree in nothing. When my middle son was going to elementary school, he came home and told me how the Premier of the Province was destroying the education system and hurting kids. The teacher was a rabid union member who couldn't separate his politics and ideology from his job of teaching the kids the assigned subjects. Now, one could argue that he was really just giving an alternative class on social studies, but the fact of the matter was it was a math class.

This stuff here is precisely what sunk Democrats, and it will sink the Liberals as well, who are already on life support.
You guys lost everything in the last election. The Senate, The House, and The Presidency. Why? Because the majority of Americans are Racist, Homophobic, Transphobic, misogynistic, Terfs, or? Is because the left went so far out there that the majority of voters think what most of think.

The Left has completely lost their fucking minds, especially with identity politics.

And their answer is to accuse anyone who does not agree of being a phobe.
There's actually some truth in that.
 

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Que anti-trans freaking out.


 

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Why does gender affirmatiom require chemicals and mutation?

If I think Im an alcoholic can get 14 year old scotch for affirmation?

I demand a Dalwhinnie Rx or youre all fucking Nazis. Alcoholic Rights are Human Rights!
 
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Why does gender affirmatiom require chemicals and mutation?

If I think Im an alcoholic can get 14 year old scotch for affirmation?

I demand a Dalwhinnie Rx or youre all fucking Nazis. Alcoholic Rights are Human Rights!
I hear Glenmorangie is quite satisfying.
 
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I hear Glenmorangie is quite satisfying.
For a 12 year its very good. A little smoky for my tastes. I like the sweeter peated scotches. Oban and Dalwhinnie 14 being my favourites.

Tullibardine Is exceptional for price point as an up comer. Their under 12 year sovereign is incredible and a good place to start on a nice scotch. The 12 and 15s are making waves.
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After long wait for an egg, keepers discover Maggie the penguin is male
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Leo Sands, The Washington Post
Published Dec 04, 2024 • 3 minute read

Magnus the penguin, who was renamed after DNA testing found that he was not female as keepers previously thought.
Magnus the penguin, who was renamed after DNA testing found that he was not female as keepers previously thought.
For four years, keepers at Birdland Park and Gardens waited patiently for Maggie, their prized female king penguin, to lay an egg.


She kept flirting with the male penguins. There was even mating, particularly with Frank, another penguin in her enclosure.

But never did Maggie, who was imported from Denmark as part of a breeding initiative, hatch a chick, perplexing officials at the wildlife park in the Cotswolds, central England.

The mystery was finally solved this year, when a DNA test conducted on Maggie’s feathers revealed that the 10-year-old penguin had been incorrectly sexed the whole time.

“Maggie is in fact a male penguin,” said Alistair Keen, Birdland’s head keeper, in a phone interview that he squeezed into his surprisingly busy media schedule Wednesday, as news of the DNA results spread across Britain, apparently delighting the country.


“We’ve renamed him with the fine Scandinavian name of Magnus,” he said, a nod to the penguin’s origins.

Keen’s team of birdkeepers once had high hopes that the penguin would lay an egg. In 2020, the year that Maggie – as the penguin was then known – came to sexual maturity, it was seen flirting with Frank, another king penguin in the enclosure. “But no egg was laid,” said Keen. “Same again in 2021. Same again in 2022. In 2023, they were seen mating quite regularly.”

The flirting involved various behaviors, including making noises and posturing: “They do a low trumpeting call, which is basically them saying, ‘I’m free and I’m single. Who’s interested?’ And whoever’s interested then shouts back,” said Keen. “They’ll even check out their partners’ feet, as they incubate their egg on their feet.”


Keen recalled one moment in particular when he and his colleagues were particularly hopeful for a chick. “At one point we thought we had an egg, because Frank sat with his tummy tucked over his feet,” said Keen. “But he was incubating a leaf.”

When the DNA test eventually came back showing the penguin as male in October, Keen said he was not that surprised – there had been signs.

“I’d had my suspicions when Maggie or Magnus began mating the males,” said Keen, referring to Magnus’s assumption of the dominant role in the act. “Which female penguins don’t do.”

The keeper’s suspicions rose further when the penguin set its sights on others, too, he said: “She was also seen mating another one of our males called Spike.”

Size is not a guarantor of a penguin’s sex, but taller king penguins tend to be males. “As it reached maturity, this penguin has looked very tall compared to everyone else,” Keen said. “So I wasn’t 100 percent surprised when I found out.”


The revelation that Magnus was forming same-sex bonds the whole time is not surprising. Such bonds between penguins, like many other animals, have been documented around the world.

Earlier this year, a same-sex penguin pair in Sydney, who had been together for six years, made global headlines after one sang a tribute when the other died. In New York City’s Central Park Zoo, a pair of penguins raised a chick from a fostered egg, inspiring the children’s book, “And Tango Makes Three.”

Their behavior can also be less cute. In the Netherlands, two males went on an egg-stealing rampage – taking one from a heterosexual pair and another from a “lesbian” couple the following year.

“Magnus/gie,” as Keen also referred to the penguin, arrived at Birdland in 2016 as part of a bid to boost wildlife’s number of female king penguins and its overall penguin population.

“We’ve told the breeding program, so I’m kind of hoping that gives them an excuse to give me another female,” said Keen. The mix-up was understandable given how easy it is to misidentify a penguin’s sex, he added.
 
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Mayor who stood up to Pride group has bank account garnished
Emo Mayor Harold McQuaker faces stiffer justice from authorities than bank robbers and carjackers


Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Dec 07, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 5 minute read

Emo Township in Nothern Ontrario has been ordered to a $10,000 pay a fine by the Ontario Human Rights Commission for not voting to fly a Pride flag
Emo Township in Nothern Ontrario has been ordered to a $10,000 pay a fine by the Ontario Human Rights Commission for not voting to fly a Pride flag
LGBTQ2+ activists have literally made Emo Township Mayor Harold McQuaker pay for daring to stand up to them.


Although the Northern Ontario municipal leader vowed not to honour a $5,000 fine the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario (HRTO) levied against him for comments surrounding town council not approving a motion to approve Pride month, he wasn’t given a choice.

In fact, the winner of the judgement that McQuaker called “extortion” has boasted it has already gone into his bank account to collect the money.

“Sure, sex is great, but have you ever garnished your mayor’s bank account after he publicly refused to comply with a Tribunal’s order to pay damages?” states a Borderland Pride post on Facebook.

It seems like they are enjoying this.

Council may not have let them raise a rainbow flag for Pride month but they are planting a flag in the ground to show Emo is their town.


“Mayor McQuaker’s comments in the Toronto Sun and other media were very clear that he did not respect nor intend to comply with the Tribunal’s orders,” Borderland Pride said in an email. “Consequently, it was apparent he would not voluntarily make payment of the damages ordered. We took immediate action to garnish his bank account.”

What McQuaker told the Sun was, “I utterly refuse to pay the $5,000 because that’s extortion” and also said he would not partake in an Ontario Human Rights Commission re-education course.



On ensuring he did pay, Borderland Pride said, “The garnishment was issued by the court and delivered to the CIBC in Emo, which is the only bank in that community” and ”there is no hearing or application to issue a notice of garnishment – it is a service provided at the court counter or online once a person has an order for the payment of money.”

Borderland Pride also wrote, “Orders of the Tribunal can be enforced in the same manner as any civil judgment for the payment of money. We intend to ensure the Tribunal’s orders are complied with.”

Turns out Mayor McQuaker is not in charge there – Borderland Pride is.

Cancel culture is cancelling this mayor and digging into his personal savings too. On a weak premise that there is discrimination of LGBT people there, the enforcement is harsher than most violent criminals receive. It seems like a heavy-handed, undemocratic move, not to mention a violation of personal finances, and cruel and unusual punishment.


It’s also a slippery slope.

Borderland Pride has taken Emo, Ontario by storm
Borderland Pride has taken Emo, Ontario by storm
The state using legal instruments to take from one person and give to others amounts to communism and authoritarianism that should scare every citizen. First, we saw government and banks freezing accounts of pandemic lockdown protesters, seizing donations to crowdfunding sites, and now in woke Canada comes word they can raid bank accounts, too.

A creeping police state is what should be cancelled, not a venerable village mayor. Just because people get the whip hand on somebody, does not mean they need to wield it. Power is not power when it’s abused. Restraint and fair play is power.


There is no decision so far on the status of the $10,000 fine HRTO slapped on the Township of Emo for the 2020 decision by town council to vote three to two against granting a request for there to be a Pride month in the village of just 1,400 people. And Borderland Pride said they have so far not garnished the township as they await that decision.

What’s McQuaker’s next move? Bow to the woke mob? Appeal? Resign? Fight on?

“I will not be commenting until next Wednesday (council’s next meeting) when we will make a statement,” McQuaker said Friday, adding his “knuckles have been rapped” this week.



Ontario Premier Doug Ford should send Municipal Affairs Minister Paul Calandra to intervene and end this madness, get both sides to shake hands with a compromise and be friends. Great grandfather McQuaker is a good citizen and so are the Borderland Pride volunteers. No one ever wins in a game of chicken.

This occurred because democracy wasn’t respected when the town decided to pass on having Pride month. The Tribunal’s Vice Chair Karen Dawson claimed “Mayor McQuaker’s remark … that there was no flag for the ‘other side of the coin … for straight people’ was on its face dismissive of Borderland Pride’s flag request and demonstrated a lack of understanding of the importance to Borderland Pride and other members of the LGBTQ2 community of the Pride flag.”


Dawson wrote, “I find this remark was demeaning and disparaging of the LGBTQ2 community of which Borderland Pride is a member and therefore constituted discrimination under the code.”

Borderland Pride has won its case against Emo Township in Northern Ontrario. They have been ordered to a $10,000 pay a fine by the Ontario Human Rights Commission for not voting to fly a Pride flag
Borderland Pride has won its case against Emo Township in Northern Ontrario. They have been ordered to a $10,000 pay a fine by the Ontario Human Rights Commission for not voting to fly a Pride flag
But more offensive than anything McQuaker said is this ruling, which ignores McQuaker’s free speech and council’s free vote. It was an overreaction to a comment from a 76-year-old man in a town a long way from progressive municipalities more accustomed to Pride celebrations and who have a legitimate demand for them.

Instead of searching for a middle ground, blunt force was employed to destroy a good man who has served his community well. He doesn’t’ accept that he’s homophobic.

McQuaker maintains he doesn’t “hate anybody” and “did not do anything wrong.”


“If anybody needs training, it’s the LGBTQ2+ to quit pushing their weight around and make demands that people can’t live with,” he said.



This seems like a modern-day witch hunt.

While they didn’t win the June Pride month designation, Borderland Pride is winning the Battle of Emo now and using Ontario oversight and procedures to do it. Like it or not, with the help of highly-skilled, experienced and professional lawyer Douglas Judson, they are using the law and it is ruling in their favour.

However, it’s not helping Canada. And rubbing the Mayor’s nose in it and spiking the football on social media is unseemly.

But Borderland Pride says “despite suggestions in your prior reporting and elsewhere which portray the Mayor as elderly, vulnerable, or somehow economically disadvantaged, he owns a successful trucking company and is likely one of the wealthiest people in the community.”

While his financial status should be irrelevant, McQuaker is $5,000 poorer thanks to his bank account being garnished.

And a country understands Borderland Pride is the new boss.

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