Seriously, do you actually think that in the phrase "consider the effect that your words have," the third word is a verb?
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You STILL haven't answered the most important question, Dix. Which is NOT helping you at all.
Which is better, a kid that is Trans being the gender they are, or a dead kid?
The rest of this is just blatant ignorance and unwillingness to have empathy or compassion, and promotes at least one big lie. "And, BTW you are wrong in stating that the medical people know what the drugs will do long term for kids. That is blatantly a lie." No, they DO know, because for 40 years blockers have been used for kids, just not for a Trans issue.
And if you want to ask about HRT - HRT has been around for a while too, usually to help menopausal women. TRT - testosterone's side of the equation - has also been around for a while.
So no, Dix, there HAS been studies, just not how it pertains to Trans people only, because no one gave a shit before now. Now that it is a focus, there are people looking into it, but just because the use is for Trans people, doesn't mean somehow the drugs change how they act/react in a person. Just because a trans person may do HRT/TRT, doesn't mean suddenly they more or more severe medical side effects.
So...
Which is it Dix - a trans kid living, or a dead kid to suicide?
I must'a missed it, I don't see where I wrote in affect when it should'a been effect. Meh.
Happens to me all the time. I usually do a quick proofread depending on what I’m saying because I live in Regina….& Text to Talk confuses our hometown with a similar word….but I don’t always catch things either.
(Several years ago, our Son was doing text to talk on a search for a restaurant near our house named “Glitter’s” in Regina. Text to talk interpreted that one creatively and I’ve never seen him move so quickly trying to abort a search.)
I usually try to be super conscious of words like that. Typos I can handle, but mistakes in a word annoy the hell out of me.
Also, I might'a reacted the same way as your son, or just laughed about it.
That was a HORRIBLE pun! Why don't you just fleck off?not a fan of ben affleck nor am i fan of ben effleck.
Lecce speaks out on teacher with huge fake breasts, but it's time to act
School board officials apparently want to push political correctness to new levels
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Dec 20, 2022 • 3 minute read
It’s time for the Halton District School Board to deal with the teacher wearing the giant fake breasts, Education Minister Stephen Lecce said Monday.
He didn’t use those exact words but his direct call out of the board, his pleas for professionalism and respect, were crystal clear.
Lecce was taking questions from reporters at a news conference called to announce an increase in child care spaces when he was asked about the ongoing controversy.
“I think the bottom line and our position is that when kids are in front of staff, we expect them to uphold the highest standards of professionalism,” Lecce said of teachers and other school workers.
The minister has been critical of the board, which is the employer of the teacher, since the story broke earlier this year. The teacher, who began their career as a male shop teacher before identifying as a transgendered woman and going by the name Kayla Lemieux, has been photographed in the classroom operating equipment wearing extremely large fake breasts with protruding nipples under very tight shirts.
“Many families in the community have expressed profound concern with the management of this issue, and so we reaffirm our expectation, with the school boards, as employers, that they act in the interest of children, and they listen to the voices and families of the kids themselves in various schools,” Lecce said.
Board warns students, not teacher
The Halton board has refused requests to even impose a dress code on teachers, similar to ones they have for students. In fact, any student dressing the way Lemieux dresses would be taken out of the class.
Instead of listening to concerns of students or parents, though, the Halton board has made this issue about trans rights. Last week, students were warned to stop taking and posting photos or videos of Lemieux in school or face repercussions.
It’s bizarre and utterly ridiculous that we are at this point, but school board officials apparently want to push political correctness to new levels.
Being trans doesn’t require wearing obscenely large fake breasts over tight shirts while teaching children and respecting trans rights doesn’t require accepting such an outfit. In fact, there is an argument to be made that Lemieux and the Halton board are making a mockery of actual transgender issues.
There has been plenty of speculation that this is Lemieux’s goal, but nothing confirmed.
“I do continue to believe that the Halton school board, which is the employer, has an obligation to ensure that these classrooms are safe and respectful places to learn,” Lecce said.
“I do not believe the board administration has done so to date.”
Earlier this year, Lecce had asked the Ontario College of Teachers to review the professionalism standards for teachers, including dress code. The college said that the Halton board had all the necessary tools to deal with the situation surrounding Lemieux, including requiring teachers to follow a dress code.
The board simply refuses to do so.
A report to the board by staff last month said that any attempt to impose a dress code “would likely expose the board to considerable liability.” Board staff pointed out that there is no current collective agreement with teachers and raised concerns that a dress code would violate the Ontario Human Rights Code.
To say that is a stretch is putting it mildly, as the Sun’s editorial recently stated, Lemieux’s giant fake breasts “are the equivalent of a biologically female teacher who identifies as male, shoving a giant prosthetic penis down her pants before coming to work every day, advertising their sexuality in a job where teachers are supposed to be role models for students.”
That would not be tolerated, neither should this ongoing situation. If the board won’t act, Lecce and the province must.
blilley@postmedia.com
torontosun.com
School board officials apparently want to push political correctness to new levels
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Dec 20, 2022 • 3 minute read
It’s time for the Halton District School Board to deal with the teacher wearing the giant fake breasts, Education Minister Stephen Lecce said Monday.
He didn’t use those exact words but his direct call out of the board, his pleas for professionalism and respect, were crystal clear.
Lecce was taking questions from reporters at a news conference called to announce an increase in child care spaces when he was asked about the ongoing controversy.
“I think the bottom line and our position is that when kids are in front of staff, we expect them to uphold the highest standards of professionalism,” Lecce said of teachers and other school workers.
The minister has been critical of the board, which is the employer of the teacher, since the story broke earlier this year. The teacher, who began their career as a male shop teacher before identifying as a transgendered woman and going by the name Kayla Lemieux, has been photographed in the classroom operating equipment wearing extremely large fake breasts with protruding nipples under very tight shirts.
“Many families in the community have expressed profound concern with the management of this issue, and so we reaffirm our expectation, with the school boards, as employers, that they act in the interest of children, and they listen to the voices and families of the kids themselves in various schools,” Lecce said.
Board warns students, not teacher
The Halton board has refused requests to even impose a dress code on teachers, similar to ones they have for students. In fact, any student dressing the way Lemieux dresses would be taken out of the class.
Instead of listening to concerns of students or parents, though, the Halton board has made this issue about trans rights. Last week, students were warned to stop taking and posting photos or videos of Lemieux in school or face repercussions.
It’s bizarre and utterly ridiculous that we are at this point, but school board officials apparently want to push political correctness to new levels.
Being trans doesn’t require wearing obscenely large fake breasts over tight shirts while teaching children and respecting trans rights doesn’t require accepting such an outfit. In fact, there is an argument to be made that Lemieux and the Halton board are making a mockery of actual transgender issues.
There has been plenty of speculation that this is Lemieux’s goal, but nothing confirmed.
“I do continue to believe that the Halton school board, which is the employer, has an obligation to ensure that these classrooms are safe and respectful places to learn,” Lecce said.
“I do not believe the board administration has done so to date.”
Earlier this year, Lecce had asked the Ontario College of Teachers to review the professionalism standards for teachers, including dress code. The college said that the Halton board had all the necessary tools to deal with the situation surrounding Lemieux, including requiring teachers to follow a dress code.
The board simply refuses to do so.
A report to the board by staff last month said that any attempt to impose a dress code “would likely expose the board to considerable liability.” Board staff pointed out that there is no current collective agreement with teachers and raised concerns that a dress code would violate the Ontario Human Rights Code.
To say that is a stretch is putting it mildly, as the Sun’s editorial recently stated, Lemieux’s giant fake breasts “are the equivalent of a biologically female teacher who identifies as male, shoving a giant prosthetic penis down her pants before coming to work every day, advertising their sexuality in a job where teachers are supposed to be role models for students.”
That would not be tolerated, neither should this ongoing situation. If the board won’t act, Lecce and the province must.
blilley@postmedia.com
LILLEY: Lecce speaks out on teacher with huge fake breasts, but it's time to act
Ontario's education minister says classrooms need to be safe and respectful and concerns for students and parents listened to.
In all honestly, I gotta agree with this whole concept. Which is why there is talk among Trans people that this person is faking it to either A) prove a point or B) mock Trans people.
I still wonder if any other woman who showed up with huge breasts and dressed like she does, would get the same backlash though. (despite that any other woman with natural breasts of that size would be on a list for a reduction due to back pain)
Parents threaten lawsuit, call for Lecce to act on Oakville trans teacher
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Dec 22, 2022 • 3 minute read
Public pressure hasn’t made the Halton District School Board change its policy regarding a teacher wearing huge fake breasts to class, but perhaps legal action will.
A group of parents has hired a lawyer to push the board to take action on the dress and deportment of teacher Kayla Lemieux.
Rishi Banhu, a labour law specialist from Oakville, has written to both the board and Education Minister Stephen Lecce asking for action.
“The board has refused to enforce any standards or expectations with regard to Ms. Lemieux’s work attire,” Bandhu wrote.
His letter goes on to demand the board explain their position on the lack of a dress code for teachers when Lemieux’s style of dress clearly violates the student dress code. He also demands the board engage with parents and the school council at Oakville Trafalgar High School on this matter.
“My clients reserve their rights to pursue all forms of legal action concerning this matter, including judicial review,” he wrote.
A group of parents calling themselves Students First Ontario is raising money to support legal action against the board. So far, they have raised just over $7,500 of their $10,000 goal.
Bandhu though is looking to the province to step in and solve the matter. In his letter to Lecce, Bandhu asks him to exercise his authority under Section 303(2) of the Education Act, which would allow the minister to impose a dress code.
“A board shall direct a principal to establish a local code of conduct if the board is required to do so by the Minister, and the local code must address such matters and include such requirements as the Minister may specify,” the act reads.
Board has ignored Education Minister for months
Lecce has been pushing the board to take action since the story broke in September. He referred the issue of professional standards to the Ontario College of Teachers, which ruled that the board had all the powers they needed to enforce a dress code similar to the one students must follow — but the board has refused to do so.
“I think the bottom line and our position is that when kids are in front of staff, we expect them to uphold the highest standards of professionalism,” Lecce said Monday.
He specifically said he doesn’t think the board has acted appropriately in this case and called on them to do so.
Despite public pressure, pressure from ministry bureaucrats and direct pressure from the minister himself, the board has not moved. Their claim is that imposing a dress code on teachers, Lemieux in particular, would be a violation of the Ontario Human Rights Code.
Kjerstin Karlsson, a post-op transwoman, wrote after a column earlier this week to say that Lemieux’s conduct is inappropriate for a school.
“This teacher is making it more difficult than ever, even if she doesn’t realize it, for trans individuals to live their lives and be respected,” Karlsson said, noting Lemieux’s conduct could be having a negative impact on trans students as well.
“Human rights only go so far, if she wants to wear prosthetic breasts that large may I suggest a nightclub and not a learning institution.”
That is a common sense and respectful view, which can’t be said for Lemieux’s choices or the Halton school board’s acceptance of them.
If the board hasn’t acted up until this point, it’s doubtful they will change course in the face of legal action. If the education act allows Lecce to order the board to establish a dress code, he should do it.
This ordeal has become a distraction for students, parents and teachers.
blilley@postmedia.com
ontario.ca
studentsfirstontario.ca
torontosun.com
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Dec 22, 2022 • 3 minute read
Public pressure hasn’t made the Halton District School Board change its policy regarding a teacher wearing huge fake breasts to class, but perhaps legal action will.
A group of parents has hired a lawyer to push the board to take action on the dress and deportment of teacher Kayla Lemieux.
Rishi Banhu, a labour law specialist from Oakville, has written to both the board and Education Minister Stephen Lecce asking for action.
“The board has refused to enforce any standards or expectations with regard to Ms. Lemieux’s work attire,” Bandhu wrote.
His letter goes on to demand the board explain their position on the lack of a dress code for teachers when Lemieux’s style of dress clearly violates the student dress code. He also demands the board engage with parents and the school council at Oakville Trafalgar High School on this matter.
“My clients reserve their rights to pursue all forms of legal action concerning this matter, including judicial review,” he wrote.
A group of parents calling themselves Students First Ontario is raising money to support legal action against the board. So far, they have raised just over $7,500 of their $10,000 goal.
Bandhu though is looking to the province to step in and solve the matter. In his letter to Lecce, Bandhu asks him to exercise his authority under Section 303(2) of the Education Act, which would allow the minister to impose a dress code.
“A board shall direct a principal to establish a local code of conduct if the board is required to do so by the Minister, and the local code must address such matters and include such requirements as the Minister may specify,” the act reads.
Board has ignored Education Minister for months
Lecce has been pushing the board to take action since the story broke in September. He referred the issue of professional standards to the Ontario College of Teachers, which ruled that the board had all the powers they needed to enforce a dress code similar to the one students must follow — but the board has refused to do so.
“I think the bottom line and our position is that when kids are in front of staff, we expect them to uphold the highest standards of professionalism,” Lecce said Monday.
He specifically said he doesn’t think the board has acted appropriately in this case and called on them to do so.
Despite public pressure, pressure from ministry bureaucrats and direct pressure from the minister himself, the board has not moved. Their claim is that imposing a dress code on teachers, Lemieux in particular, would be a violation of the Ontario Human Rights Code.
Kjerstin Karlsson, a post-op transwoman, wrote after a column earlier this week to say that Lemieux’s conduct is inappropriate for a school.
“This teacher is making it more difficult than ever, even if she doesn’t realize it, for trans individuals to live their lives and be respected,” Karlsson said, noting Lemieux’s conduct could be having a negative impact on trans students as well.
“Human rights only go so far, if she wants to wear prosthetic breasts that large may I suggest a nightclub and not a learning institution.”
That is a common sense and respectful view, which can’t be said for Lemieux’s choices or the Halton school board’s acceptance of them.
If the board hasn’t acted up until this point, it’s doubtful they will change course in the face of legal action. If the education act allows Lecce to order the board to establish a dress code, he should do it.
This ordeal has become a distraction for students, parents and teachers.
blilley@postmedia.com
e-Laws | Ontario.ca
Students First Ontario
studentsfirstontario.ca
LILLEY: Parents threaten lawsuit, call for Lecce to act on Oakville trans teacher
A lawyer hired by a group of Oakville parents has demanded changes by the school board and called on the education minister to intervene.
Nooòoooo. Le Meoo would be on disabilty for shoulder and back pain. Big tits arent a blessing. Women know this shit. Le Meoo is doing this to get reaction from masculine men.
Parents threaten lawsuit, call for Lecce to act on Oakville trans teacher
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Dec 22, 2022 • 3 minute read
Public pressure hasn’t made the Halton District School Board change its policy regarding a teacher wearing huge fake breasts to class, but perhaps legal action will.
A group of parents has hired a lawyer to push the board to take action on the dress and deportment of teacher Kayla Lemieux.
Rishi Banhu, a labour law specialist from Oakville, has written to both the board and Education Minister Stephen Lecce asking for action.
“The board has refused to enforce any standards or expectations with regard to Ms. Lemieux’s work attire,” Bandhu wrote.
His letter goes on to demand the board explain their position on the lack of a dress code for teachers when Lemieux’s style of dress clearly violates the student dress code. He also demands the board engage with parents and the school council at Oakville Trafalgar High School on this matter.
“My clients reserve their rights to pursue all forms of legal action concerning this matter, including judicial review,” he wrote.
A group of parents calling themselves Students First Ontario is raising money to support legal action against the board. So far, they have raised just over $7,500 of their $10,000 goal.
Bandhu though is looking to the province to step in and solve the matter. In his letter to Lecce, Bandhu asks him to exercise his authority under Section 303(2) of the Education Act, which would allow the minister to impose a dress code.
“A board shall direct a principal to establish a local code of conduct if the board is required to do so by the Minister, and the local code must address such matters and include such requirements as the Minister may specify,” the act reads.
Board has ignored Education Minister for months
Lecce has been pushing the board to take action since the story broke in September. He referred the issue of professional standards to the Ontario College of Teachers, which ruled that the board had all the powers they needed to enforce a dress code similar to the one students must follow — but the board has refused to do so.
“I think the bottom line and our position is that when kids are in front of staff, we expect them to uphold the highest standards of professionalism,” Lecce said Monday.
He specifically said he doesn’t think the board has acted appropriately in this case and called on them to do so.
Despite public pressure, pressure from ministry bureaucrats and direct pressure from the minister himself, the board has not moved. Their claim is that imposing a dress code on teachers, Lemieux in particular, would be a violation of the Ontario Human Rights Code.
Kjerstin Karlsson, a post-op transwoman, wrote after a column earlier this week to say that Lemieux’s conduct is inappropriate for a school.
“This teacher is making it more difficult than ever, even if she doesn’t realize it, for trans individuals to live their lives and be respected,” Karlsson said, noting Lemieux’s conduct could be having a negative impact on trans students as well.
“Human rights only go so far, if she wants to wear prosthetic breasts that large may I suggest a nightclub and not a learning institution.”
That is a common sense and respectful view, which can’t be said for Lemieux’s choices or the Halton school board’s acceptance of them.
If the board hasn’t acted up until this point, it’s doubtful they will change course in the face of legal action. If the education act allows Lecce to order the board to establish a dress code, he should do it.
This ordeal has become a distraction for students, parents and teachers.
blilley@postmedia.com
e-Laws | Ontario.ca
Students First Ontario
LILLEY: Parents threaten lawsuit, call for Lecce to act on Oakville trans teacher
A lawyer hired by a group of Oakville parents has demanded changes by the school board and called on the education minister to intervene.
I can get the school board not really having a choice but to side with the teacher. The backlash from trouble with her had they acted in any other way but acceptance would have been worse, most likely. But now that parents are looking to push back, the board will have no choice but to try to either compromise or something else.
And I agree with the trans woman who wrote the column, what she's doing is inappropriate for school, which is why I still wonder if this isn't some BS fake thing to prove a point.
But in the end, this has been and IS an issue that needs to be addressed, in more ways than just one. And IF the teacher is found out to have faked all this then I hope there's big ramifications for it.
"Don't Say Gay": Florida schools purge library books with LGBTQ characters
In March 2022, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) signed into law the Parental Rights in Education Act, which critics dubbed the "Don't Say Gay" bill.
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So... true stories about the animal kingdom are somehow 'sexual' and promote 'pornography'?
JFC...