2015; Does Stephen Harper and the Conservatives deserve another chance?

petros

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We upgrade and refine more than we can use. That's why the pipeline to Texas to put on boats to Europe and Asia just like Paul Martin planned.

Chretien sent us to war in the Middle East.

Where were you when the Libs were planning pipelines, ports, resource exports and a war in Afghanistan?
 
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Be honest and admit, Canada cannot afford another term of tories. I don't mind a mild depression every so often but enough is enough!! Any other party will do better, or have none of you Conservatives noticed yet that EVERY time we elect these bums, we end up in a recession or depression.

To be honest Canada can not afford NOT to vote for the Conservatives. Unless you want a depression to happen in Canada that is not happening in the rest of the world. Or perhaps you would like us to end up like Greece?
 

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We upgrade and refine more than we can use. That's why the pipeline to Texas to put on boats to Europe and Asia just like Paul Martin planned.

Chretien sent us to war in the Middle East.

Where were you when the Libs were planning pipelines, ports, resource exports and a war in Afghanistan?
No NO NO that was not the friendly liberals that was the nasty right wing of the party that did that and they may as well
be conservative anyway .
 

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There is no difference between Liberals and Conservatives. They are all bought and sold to the highest bidders. We need to take our country back form the foreign banksters and corporate elite. Harpo just upped the amount corporations can contribute to election campaigns so he can out spend any opposition to his 'party of one".

There is no difference between Liberals and Conservatives. They are all bought and sold to the highest bidders. We need to take our country back form the foreign banksters and corporate elite. Harpo just upped the amount corporations can contribute to election campaigns so he can out spend any opposition to his 'party of one".
Thanks again Wally for validating my observation. You are my biggest supporter.
 

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It's investor-favoured policies, Free Trade arrangements and union-busting tactics that make moves to offshore locations attractive to profit suckers. The rest of your red herrings? Figure it out yourself. Am I a product analyst?

The Canadian Fed gvt is among the biggest investors in national resource and mfg industries.

As far as where the mfg has gone, ask yourself that question next time you bypass the local mom and pop shop to spend your dollars at Walmart based on wanting to pay less.

Ironically, it is the Unions that have had a deep impact on sending these jobs overseas, but if you insist that this is not the case, you can volunteer to buy the same products for a lot more cash to support your union bretheren

What has the Harper Govt sold off to foreign investors that destroyed industry?

You'll never get an answer to that question.... All it is are a handful of cliche phrases and unprovable talking points that are favored by some
 

petros

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Like those who blame Harper for Chretien and Martin's doings? The oil, the pipelines, the infrastructure and the $100+ bbl deal with the OPEC devil to pay for it all contrived under the Libs.

They started the oil boom and infrastructure spending.

Tulip farmers, the whole lot.
 

petros

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It's the same old story... Someone has an axe to grind and they focus on the easiest, most accessible target possible without having any understanding of why

I'll admit I was worried that the AP Gateway and north south energy corridor might get side tracked under Harper but they hit the ground running.

How would Trudeau finish the project? Cash deals with econauts and injuns to clear gateway or ram through with NEB rulings?

We are obligated to build it or find a way to get oil to the coast by rail or truck. Libs Sino'd on the dotted line and will have to face getting those prepaid bbls to their rightful owners.

This could be fun to watch.
 

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The reason I want him out of office is his vindictive method of governing. A Pri-Minister is elected for his vision. Not his ability to control, manipulate by abuse of power. Trudeau has a much better Vision, Steven's job of Energy Independence is accomplished, unless he steps it up a notch and shows me he can re-invent himself, I say Justine will do 100 times better then Bush Jr. and look at the United States of America, they are still here today.
 

petros

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The same view from Trudeau's eyes. He too has to finish what was started almost 15 years ago. The goal set by Libs was 3,000,000 bbls per day by 2025.

10 years to go.
 

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The same view from Trudeau's eyes. He too has to finish what was started almost 15 years ago. The goal set by Libs was 3,000,000 bbls per day by 2025.

10 years to go.

Yes, Exactly. Plus he will help make things entertaining .... In here
 

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The reason I want him out of office is his vindictive method of governing. A Pri-Minister is elected for his vision. Not his ability to control, manipulate by abuse of power. Trudeau has a much better Vision, Steven's job of Energy Independence is accomplished, unless he steps it up a notch and shows me he can re-invent himself, I say Justine will do 100 times better then Bush Jr. and look at the United States of America, they are still here today.


Trudeau hasn't articulated any 'vision' yet... How can you possibly support something that he hasn't defined?
 

petros

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He did say he'd keep pushing forward on resources esp. oil sands.

Do people really believe projects with centennial revenues will be shelved until evil is once again democratically elected with a majority.
 

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Trudeau hasn't articulated any 'vision' yet... How can you possibly support something that he hasn't defined?


Because a child learns from his parents, so his vision and way of leading will be, not to unlike his parents Vision. It gives Justin a chance to evaluate and continue his Fathers Legacy. Right the Wrongs and finalize what was started but not finished.

It gives our government a 3rd dimension it rarely achieves. To think in a monarchy this happens every generation.

Continuity has some qualities.

The only Vision I see out of the Harper government is.

A vote for Harper is a Vote to say STFU environmentalists and Nuclear Watch dogs.

Which has its positive and negative sides. As much as I agree with some of it, i can't agree that this is a great leadership Vision on the part of Harper.
 

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Of course the Petey will never get his answer because he based his question on his twisted interpretation of the statement - just like you do

The intelligent people which with whom we can discuss, don't bother to take the time today.
 

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To be honest Canada can not afford NOT to vote for the Conservatives. Unless you want a depression to happen in Canada that is not happening in the rest of the world. Or perhaps you would like us to end up like Greece?

A strangely worded couple of sentences. Depression "in Canada that is not happening in the rest of the world". Greece is on the way out of the EU and debt and into the Brics sphere. We would be lucky to get away like that but we won't cuz we're chained to the giant US floundering wreakage.
 

Angstrom

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A strangely worded couple of sentences. Depression "in Canada that is not happening in the rest of the world". Greece is on the way out of the EU and debt and into the Brics sphere. We would be lucky to get away like that but we won't cuz we're chained to the giant US floundering wreakage.

I really envy those Greek. How lucky for them to be forced into a harder less luxurious environment. It's going to really be exiting for them in the next couple of years.
 

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2015; Does Stephen Harper and the Conservatives deserve another chance?

Absolutely .....................as long as the alternatives are Mulcair and Jr.

To be honest Canada can not afford NOT to vote for the Conservatives. Unless you want a depression to happen in Canada that is not happening in the rest of the world. Or perhaps you would like us to end up like Greece?

You hit the nail on the head. But he has to get Duffy and Pammy behind bars!
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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NO f U C K I N G W A Y Really, anybody that would vote tory now is either a serious zealot, blind, deaf and stupid. All politicians embellish "facts" and weasel around questions, but this bunch has told more out and out lies than any I've seen, and I've seen a few.

ROFLMAO

Spoken like a true Left Wing Zealot.