2 NYPD cops shot dead ‘execution style’ in Brooklyn

[gopher]

I blame Martin Luther King.

I've looked through several websites and note how there are innumerable posts in which people are blaming everybody except for Brinsley. People are responsible for their actions and the blame for anything like this plainly goes to them.

Let's hope this tragedy helps society heal so that we can have a more peaceful society.

 

[Locutus]

Let's hope this tragedy helps society heal so that we can have a more peaceful society.

NYC protesters chant for dead cops - YouTube

 

[WLDB]

Unfortunately, New York has effectively repealed the death penalty. This punk could benefit enormously from a rope-burn.

I dont think it would have made a difference seeing as the guy killed himself.

 

[gopher]

I dont think it would have made a difference seeing as the guy killed himself.

In the 1960s NYC police lobbied for strong gun laws in order to stop anti-cop violence. I distinctly remember Mayor John Lindsay joining them and excoriating Congress and the City Council for not enacting tougher gun laws back then as he felt such laws would protect cops and make society safer. It will be interesting to see what direction this particular discussion takes after this tragedy.

 

[personal touch]

what can one say,i am lost for words,except to say "how sad this is",another reason not to listen or watch the news.

 

[Colpy]

I've looked through several websites and note how there are innumerable posts in which people are blaming everybody except for Brinsley. People are responsible for their actions and the blame for anything like this plainly goes to them.

Let's hope this tragedy helps society heal so that we can have a more peaceful society.

You are of course correct in that the ultimate legal responsibility for the murders lies with the guy that pulled the trigger.

But Al Sharpton went to New York to stir up racial hatred. Even Eric Garner's widow contradicted that piece of shyte, saying that she did not believe her husband's death had anything to do with race. But Al was on a roll. The tax-avoiding cheat, con-man and hater encouraged protests and supported protesters that chanted "Kill the police".

That is not yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre.....but it is pushing on it.

Al Sharpton bears some moral responsibility, as he was figuratively standing over the killer's shoulder whispering "DO IT!" in his ear.

And this slime is an advisor to the administration. As I read somewhere else, say what you like about Dubya, he never has David Duke as an advisor.

So tell me, how's that Hopey-Changey thing working out for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKueC2o0mkI#t=42

 

[damngrumpy]

Yes Sharpton is a guy who stirred up trouble and the shooter is responsible
for his actions. There are other factors in society here though on the American
frontier because that is what it has become. We see the problems in Kansas
and NY but the trouble all goes back to the Florida incident when that young man
was murdered by a security guard and later turned out to be a real dysfunctional
piece of crap in his own right. Grand Jury failed to do its duty and its escalated
ever since. A silly self defense law that is over the top is the prime reason these
cases are out of control

 

[petros]

You are of course correct in that the ultimate legal responsibility for the murders lies with the guy that pulled the trigger.

But Al Sharpton went to New York to stir up racial hatred. Even Eric Garner's widow contradicted that piece of shyte, saying that she did not believe her husband's death had anything to do with race. But Al was on a roll. The tax-avoiding cheat, con-man and hater encouraged protests and supported protesters that chanted "Kill the police".

That is not yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre.....but it is pushing on it.

Al Sharpton bears some moral responsibility, as he was figuratively standing over the killer's shoulder whispering "DO IT!" in his ear.

And this slime is an advisor to the administration. As I read somewhere else, say what you like about Dubya, he never has David Duke as an advisor.

So tell me, how's that Hopey-Changey thing working out for you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKueC2o0mkI#t=42

Sharpton et al would be up for charges if he were Canadian.

Criminal Code 83.01 (b)

(b)*an act or omission, in or outside Canada,
(i)*that is committed
(A)*in whole or in part for a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause, and
(B)*in whole or in part with the intention of intimidating the public, or a segment of the public, with regard to its security, including its economic security, or compelling a person, a government or a domestic or an international organization to do or to refrain from doing any act, whether the public or the person, government or organization is inside or outside Canada, and
(ii)*that intentionally
(A)*causes death or serious bodily harm to a person by the use of violence,
(B)*endangers a person’s life,
(C)*causes a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or any segment of the public,
(D)*causes substantial property damage, whether to public or private property, if causing such damage is likely to result in the conduct or harm referred to in any of clauses (A) to (C), or
(E)*causes serious interference with or serious disruption of an essential service, facility or system, whether public or private, other than as a result of advocacy, protest, dissent or stoppage of work that is not intended to result in the conduct or harm referred to in any of clauses (A) to (C),
and includes a conspiracy, attempt or threat to commit any such act or omission, or being an accessory after the fact or counselling in relation to any such act or omission, but, for greater certainty, does not include an act or omission that is committed during an armed conflict and that, at the time and in the place of its commission, is in accordance with customary international law or conventional international law applicable to the conflict, or the activities undertaken by military forces of a state in the exercise of their official duties, to the extent that those activities are governed by other rules of international law.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I've looked through several websites and note how there are innumerable posts in which people are blaming everybody except for Brinsley. People are responsible for their actions and the blame for anything like this plainly goes to them.

Let's hope this tragedy helps society heal so that we can have a more peaceful society.

No kidding.

What a funny coincidence. I noticed the same thing when Michael Brown was shot. They blamed the cop(s), they blamed society, they everyone but the punk who ripped off a convenience store and made a play for a cops gun. Funny how that works.

I wonder if there will be looting.

 

[Sal]

In the 1960s NYC police lobbied for strong gun laws in order to stop anti-cop violence. I distinctly remember Mayor John Lindsay joining them and excoriating Congress and the City Council for not enacting tougher gun laws back then as he felt such laws would protect cops and make society safer. It will be interesting to see what direction this particular discussion takes after this tragedy.

nah, it's predictable on this site
more guns....people think if they have more guns it will solve everything...how many more guns can a society have

it's never enough for gunaholics...

I do believe though Al Sharpton is a mixed up, race baiting dog and the sooner he exits this life, the better it would be

Yes Sharpton is a guy who stirred up trouble and the shooter is responsible
for his actions. There are other factors in society here though on the American
frontier because that is what it has become. We see the problems in Kansas
and NY but the trouble all goes back to the Florida incident when that young man
was murdered by a security guard and later turned out to be a real dysfunctional
piece of crap in his own right. Grand Jury failed to do its duty and its escalated
ever since. A silly self defense law that is over the top is the prime reason these
cases are out of control

exactly right....the cop vs society, black vs white, is a powder keg down there...just wait until Obama is gone...it's all going to implode as it has already begun now...

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I dont think it would have made a difference seeing as the guy killed himself.

Fair point. It's wrong to bring my politics into this thread.

 

[MHz]

This is one of those stories that starts out bad and just gets worse as time ticks by.

 

[DaSleeper]

In the 1960s NYC police lobbied for strong gun laws in order to stop anti-cop violence. I distinctly remember Mayor John Lindsay joining them and excoriating Congress and the City Council for not enacting tougher gun laws back then as he felt such laws would protect cops and make society safer. It will be interesting to see what direction this particular discussion takes after this tragedy.

Gopher, I looked and looked and couldn't find out if Ismaaiyl Brinsley had a concealed carry permit in Maryland or new york...
Maybe you could point it out to me, and how tough a law is needed to prevent illegal guns???

 

[EagleSmack]

Yes Sharpton is a guy who stirred up trouble and the shooter is responsible
for his actions. There are other factors in society here though on the American
frontier because that is what it has become. We see the problems in Kansas
and NY but the trouble all goes back to the Florida incident when that young man
was murdered by a security guard and later turned out to be a real dysfunctional
piece of crap in his own right. Grand Jury failed to do its duty and its escalated
ever since. A silly self defense law that is over the top is the prime reason these
cases are out of control

Yeah DG... I hope that Kansas gets their sh*t together.


rolling my eyes




And your recollection of events in Florida is fantastic.

 

[DaSleeper]

After calling what happened in Fort Hood work place violence, I wonder what term the W H will use for this crime.......

 

[Blackleaf]

Was the murderer a Muslim? Are they at it again?

 

[EagleSmack]

After calling what happened in Fort Hood work place violence, I wonder what term the W H will use for this crime.......

They'll do their best to ignore it.


This murder/execution of police officers is.... an inconvenience at most for the race baiting bigots.


They'll do their best to say the execution of these cops is unrelated to the hate speech they have been spreading for months now.

 

[Corduroy]

Let's hope this tragedy helps society heal so that we can have a more peaceful society.

I don't think the shooting itself could heal anything. What fix does 'society' need that could make this better?

 

[taxslave]

Shooter of two NYPD officers identified as Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, of Baltimore

Two NYPD police officers identified as Wenjin Liu and Raphael Ramos were ambushed and slain "execution style" Saturday. The shooter was identified by NYPD Police Commissioner Bill Bratton as 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley.

The lone gunman who walked up to a Brooklyn patrol car and opened fire, killing two New York City police officers, has been identified as a Balitmore man who posted chilling anti-cop messages to social media Saturday before driving up to New York to carry out his threats.

New York City Police Commissioner Bill Bratton, speaking at a press conference Saturday night, confirmed the identity of the shooter as 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley. He also identified the two slain cops as Wenjian Liu and Raphael Ramos.

According to Balitmore police, Brinsley shot and wounded his girlfriend there earlier Saturday before traveling to Brooklyn, Bratton said. The woman's mother contacted New York City police, to warn them of Brinsley's plans, but the message came too late to save the two cops.

Bratton said Brinsley took a shooting stance on the passenger side of the police cruiser and fired several times striking both officers in the head. The pair, he said, never had the chance to draw their own weapons and may never have seen their assailant.

Shooter of two NYPD officers identified as Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, of Baltimore

Unfortunately, New York has effectively repealed the death penalty. This punk could benefit enormously from a rope-burn.

Except that he is aready dead.

After calling what happened in Fort Hood work place violence, I wonder what term the W H will use for this crime.......

What ever is the lesser payout to the families.

 

[gopher]

Gopher, I looked and looked and couldn't find out if Ismaaiyl Brinsley had a concealed carry permit in Maryland or new york...
Maybe you could point it out to me, and how tough a law is needed to prevent illegal guns???

I did not say a tougher gun law was needed - on the contrary, I support 2d Amendment rights. Besides, NYC already has tough guns law. That was John Lindsay who I quoted. He's dead now so you cannot ask him.



A thought occurred to me - there has been much discussion about Al Sharpton and the role he supposedly did in increasing anti-cop sentiment. Strangely, when white supremacists killed two innocent cops nobody blamed Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, or Ann Coulter or anyone else who has spoken out about intrusive government:




Police say couple who fatally shot 2 Vegas police officers and civilian believed law enforcement the 'oppressor' | Fox News



white supremacist pointing gun at police: