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petros

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More like how much of your day are you willing to give up waiting for buses? When I lived in East Van (a long time ago) I could walk to work 5 minutes faster than taking two busses and the walk at the end because no buses connected. The taking a bus to work does not work as well in practice as it does in theory. Especially if you work outside the 9-5 time frame or at multiple locations. One can no longer plan on buying a house with easy access to wher you work because there is no garauntee that your job will be in the same location or even exist next year except maybe for government employees. Try getting from Port Coquitlam to Horseshoe Bay on the bus. Or even yo UBC.
I lived in the lower painland pre and post SkySlug.

It didn't dent traffic one bit.
 

JLM

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I lived in the lower painland pre and post SkySlug.

It didn't dent traffic one bit.


Those people riding sky train wouldn't have otherwise been riding in cars? I wonder what the traffic count on Kingsway would be per hour! The toll on health by the fumes must be astronomical. Even if they had to run a bus every five minutes I think it would be worth it.
 

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There are plenty of shills on both sides of the fence on this one, people will believe what they want to believe even if it isn't based in fact.


Al Gore, Davy Suzuki and Green peace


'Nuff said


I trust my eyes, and my ears when it comes to older folk who have seen the change in weather patterns first hand.

The Earth measures things in geologic time... Our puny little lives are but fractions of nano seconds in the grand scheme.


... That said, how do you go about explaining how the predictions, projections and modelling of the eco crowd have all failed miserably?


I watched the Alberta NDP strive to find some middle ground between economic health and environmental responsibility only to fall victim to a barrage of emotional manipulation by Kenney and his band of schemers and plotters.

That is hilarious as it was Notley and her merry band of idiots that waged their entire campaign on personal attacks, emotional blackmail and supposition.


... Maybe had she actually accomplished something, anything, she might not have been so easily defeated


I work in the oilsands, I've watched with my own eyes what has transpired since the oil price started dropping in 2014. I've learned to see past the BS.

Sure you so.

Now we have this new crook-on-the-rise in Ottawa, little Andy Scheer, riding a wave of anti-Trudeau sentiment that most likely was engineered in some back room of his own party, bribing the voters with promises of personal prosperity. He's going to scrap the carbon tax but won't say what his plan is for the environment or how he will replace lost tax revenue. This is the way of politics in Canada, get them mad and keep them mad because an angry mind is not a thinking mind and they like it that way.


.. Even funnier than your obscure analysis of Kenney.


All of the damage pegged to Justine has been done by his own foolish, arrogant actions.


Scheer need do nothing other than sit back and let this failed part time, substitute dwama teacher AND snowboard instructor finish the full cycle of self-destruction.


 

spilledthebeer

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Pretty well everything you've found wrong can be fixed or changed or isn't a big deal. With the cost of all the gas that's not being burned a lot of fixes can be paid for. You could buy a locker to keep a change of clothes, a bar of soap and stick of deodorant. Bus schedules aren't carve in stone, rubber pullovers are available for shoes. There's always lots of reasons to whine and bitch.






YES JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THERE ARE PLENTY of reasons to bitch and whine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For the last 4 years- ordinary Cdns have been bitching and whining about the INSANE LIE-beral waste and idiot taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals IGNORED the "bitching and whining"..................................


as THE ELECTION CREPT EVER CLOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NOW............................................


LIE-berals are bitching and whining because all their Fake News is being LAUGHED AT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As the election looms ever larger over FADING LIE-beral fortunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And soon...................unless LIE-berals can think of SOME REALLY BIG NEW LIES TO SELL US..................................................


we can expect that LIE-berals will be BITCHING AND WHINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS a NEW GOVT STARTS CLEANING UP ALL THE LIE-beral MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have ENRAGED THE PUBLIC by doing exactly what YOU are doing JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JUST TALKING ENDLESSLY................................................


FOOLISHLY................................................


USELESSLY.................................................


POINTLESSLY..............................................



about all the things that could be done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If only the LIE-beral stars would ALIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Rob FORD supplied the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DERAIL THE GRAVY TRAIN.........................................and use the money to DO SOMETHING USEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JLM

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YES JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THERE ARE PLENTY of reasons to bitch and whine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-berals have ENRAGED THE PUBLIC by doing exactly what YOU are doing JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


JUST TALKING ENDLESSLY................................................


FOOLISHLY................................................


USELESSLY.................................................


POINTLESSLY..............................................



about all the things that could be done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If only the LIE-beral stars would ALIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Rob FORD supplied the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


DERAIL THE GRAVY TRAIN.........................................and use the money to DO SOMETHING USEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry STB, but I guess we have to agree to disagree. I've spoken often, sometimes repetitively and probably sometimes uselessly but I've spoken and that hopefully identifies the problems. How useless and pointless it's all been we'll find out at the poll in October. From what I've seen on here a couple of people have agreed with my point view, so they are thinking too. That's all I can do and hopefully those two or three people will convey the thoughts and so on. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't but I get to feel I tried and who knows! In October we may find it worked. Don't know what else I can do...……….shooting people, blowing up buildings aren't the answers in my estimation. (One hint for you, quit all the heavy text and excessive punctuation - you're alienating more people than you are convincing)
 

spilledthebeer

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There is a WHOLE TRIBE of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They CLAIM their ancestral lands are on a HILL in Ottawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But they have been exposed as SQUATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They are being VOTED OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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Sorry STB, but I guess we have to agree to disagree. I've spoken often, sometimes repetitively and probably sometimes uselessly but I've spoken and that hopefully identifies the problems. How useless and pointless it's all been we'll find out at the poll in October. From what I've seen on here a couple of people have agreed with my point view, so they are thinking too. That's all I can do and hopefully those two or three people will convey the thoughts and so on. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't but I get to feel I tried and who knows! In October we may find it worked. Don't know what else I can do...……….shooting people, blowing up buildings aren't the answers in my estimation. (One hint for you, quit all the heavy text and excessive punctuation - you're alienating more people than you are convincing)




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ONLY PEOPLE I AM ALIENATING ARE LIE-berals who have totally FAILED to REBUT ANY of my arguments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thus those who are "alienated" DO NOT COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nor do I worry about Fake types who PRETEND to have an open mind......................................


or who PRETEND to be Non Aligned with any party in an effort to offer SLY innuendo in hope of undermining those who oppose their



LIE-beral pals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And now for some factual arguments...........................that LIE-berals CANNOT HONESTLY DISPUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









Here is an article illustrating the sort of POISONED tolerance and twisted diversity that LIE-berals and their Muslim proteges are fostering in Canada! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Toronto-area 'public' event was 'only for Muslims'

By Tarek Fatah

Published: October 9, 2018. Updated: October 9, 2018 3:05 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

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Laura Loomer is no shrinking violet. Whether it is shaming Democratic congressman Keith Ellison who has recently come out denying allegations of domestic abuse, or disrupting a congressional hearing of Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, the Arizona woman has become a citizen reporter trying to highlight issues that the mainstream media seems uncomfortable to handle.

Her detractors label her as the quintessential alt-right figure, though not too long ago it was the left that employed her tactics.

This Sunday, Loomer came to Canada and within no time managed to expose blatant religious discrimination by an Islamic group at their event “Carry the Light” that the mainstream dared not cover.

Loomer was here to listen to her polar opposite, the hijabi-wearing Linda Sarsour who had been invited to speak at an event open to “anyone seeking knowledge,” hosted by the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA).

(Oh yes- just the usual blatant crap - only CERTAIN people are sufficiently enlightened to be able to receive the Full Muslim PLAN!! There are PLENTY of Youtube videos showing what happens to reporters with cameras who ask questions that Muslims do not like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Along with Sarsour was the Saudi-educated Islamic cleric Siraj Wahhaj, whose sons and daughters were recently involved in the New Mexico compound where it has been alleged by prosecutors children were trained to be school shooters.

(Muslims have made it CLEAR- to many reporters that those who oppose Islam - for whatever reason are OPPOSING GOD!! Sharia Law is the last an final and ultimate WORD OF GOD in the eyes of Muslims Thus Sharia SUPERCEDES ANY LAW written by ANY Parliament or Congress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Leading up to the event, ICNA made the following announcement on Facebook: “With suggestion from our esteemed scholar speakers at Carry the Light Conversation, we are pleased to announce that Sunday’s entire day is now open free of cost for anyone seeking the knowledge. So please come with your family and friends and gain and spread the knowledge, the cost of the ticket is on us.”

But as Loomer approached the entrance to the ICNA event on Sunday, she was stopped by a man in a dapper green jacket who told her the event “is free only for the Muslim community.”

With Toronto mayoral candidate Faith Goldy by her side, Loomer persisted: “So Christians and Jews are not welcome to this event? Only Muslims allowed?” she asked. Another man standing further back intervened and confirmed to Loomer that the event was “only for Muslims.”

(This is the Muslim reality!! That anybody who disputes any tenet of their religion is a Godless Infidel and subject to PUNISHMENT just as soon as Muslims gain FULL AUTHORITY OVER US!! Indeed, any person who disputes the right of Muslims to immigrate here freely without ANY restriction gets a prominent place on their “sh+t list” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Before the exasperated Loomer could say another word, the man in the green jacket reached towards the camera and tried to stop the recording, insisting “it is against the law.”

(YES!! Sadly it is against GODS LAW for Muslims to be exposed as intolerant JERKS exploiting the gullibility of shameless vote buying LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!)

Goldy, who had been silent so far, intervened to remind the ICNA official: “It is against the law to discriminate on religious grounds, sir. That’s against the law.”

Flustered and caught on the wrong foot, the official then threatened to call the police.

“The police are right here,” responded Loomer, gesturing to an officer immediately beside them. “Who are you going to call? The Sharia Police?”

SHARIA Toronto!@LauraLoomer & @FaithGoldy tried to attend a HAMAS-linked ICNA & ISNA event in Canada featuring, Siraj Wahhaj & Linda Sarsour who call for Jihad

Despite the event being advertised as open to everyone, Laura & Faith were banned because they are Jewish & Christian pic.twitter.com/GkRZprpFTs
— Amy Mek (@AmyMek) October 7, 2018

In their invitation to the Sunday event ICNA boasted of its “vision … of love, compassion, and caring environment for all.”

(AGAIN I point out that Christians and Jews are LESSER PEOPLE in the eyes of Sharia Lawyers and thus such LESSER people DO NOT GET the protection of our laws that are trumped by GODS WORDS to Muslims!!!!!!!!!)

Sounds a lot like doublespeak and leads many to worry about what is said and taught behind the closed doors of events open “only for Muslims.”

(This is the DIRTY SECRET that BOTH LIE-berals and Muslims seek to HIDE!!!
How LITTLE Respect either group has for the status quo of free speech and capitalism and democracy in the western world!!!!)

(Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals have made MULTIPLE EFFORTS to RIG our elections with various SLEAZY versions of Electoral Reform and LIE-berals are making repeated efforts to eliminate Hate Speech - by which they mean comments hostile to ANY LIE-beral policy- whether related to religion or any other subject such as economic or immigration policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The devout Muslim believes implicitly that Church and State must be joined! Our Cdn Parliament is ILLEGITIMATE in the eyes of Islam because it has NO IMAMS or Ayatollahs to guide it!! Thus our support of the Yankee Great Satan and of the Israeli Zionists is IMMORAL and AGAINST THE WILL OF GOD - in the eyes of Islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The challenge now is for ordinary Muslim Canadians to take back the leadership of their community. They should be on guard against the presence of any Islamists who are ideologically linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and the Jamaat-e-Islami.

(Polls done in Britain suggest that rank and file Muslims generally APPROVE of the Radical Muslim Position!! One cannot say of some of that approval is OUT OF FEAR or if there is genuine support!! In either case it means that Radical Muslims get MORE support from the community than more mild and conciliatory leaders!!!!!!!!!)

(A pair of Toronto reporters - one of whom was Egyptian born and thus able to read Arabic - produced an article for Toronto Sun that indicated that there is NOTHING BUT EXTREMIST WRITING on Cdn web sites for Muslim Schools and Mosques!! Based on that article it is clear that any “moderate” Cdn Muslims who may be out there- ARE BEING SHOUTED DOWN by the Radicals!!!!!!!!!!!)

If we don’t, we will be seen as permanent outsiders in the West. Let’s embrace Western Civilization and demolish the citadels behind which we sulk and curse the very values that allow us freedom of speech and the right to practice Islam.

(TAREK Fatah seems tp be a genuinely kindly man who follows the Rev Martin L. King mantra of judging the person by character rather than skin colour or religion!!! Sadly I believe the rather elderly Fatah is out of touch with the mainstream of Muslims in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(How can there be grounds for reconciliation with people who believe that ALL our laws are illegitimate because they DO NOT come from GOD?????????????)

If not, the path taken by Poland, Austria and Hungary is always an option unless Islamists stop apologizing for jihadis who keep attacking the West be it here in Toronto or the Dutch in Netherlands.

(Poland and Hungary BOTH have first hand experience of Radical value systems first under Nazi occupation and then under the Soviet Red Army!! Austria had ten years of Nazi occupation after the Nazi annexation!! People in those 3 countries now SHUN big talking Radicals- as we ALL SHOULD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(The WISE course is to recognize that large scale immigration of Muslims into the West is a HORRIBLY BAD IDEA!! Once Muslim numbers reach a critical point - then they CAN AND WILL ALTER our lives and civil rights and freedoms- possibly FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

spilledthebeer

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Sorry STB, but I guess we have to agree to disagree. I've spoken often, sometimes repetitively and probably sometimes uselessly but I've spoken and that hopefully identifies the problems. How useless and pointless it's all been we'll find out at the poll in October. From what I've seen on here a couple of people have agreed with my point view, so they are thinking too. That's all I can do and hopefully those two or three people will convey the thoughts and so on. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't but I get to feel I tried and who knows! In October we may find it worked. Don't know what else I can do...……….shooting people, blowing up buildings aren't the answers in my estimation. (One hint for you, quit all the heavy text and excessive punctuation - you're alienating more people than you are convincing)




YES JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I THINK YOU ARE full of lie-BERAL sh+t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But you are more the "GLASS IS ONLY HALF FULL" kind of guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JLM

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YES JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I THINK YOU ARE full of lie-BERAL sh+t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But you are more the "GLASS IS ONLY HALF FULL" kind of guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Half a glass is better than empty and can be improved on, IOW, small steps is progress!
 

spilledthebeer

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Half a glass is better than empty and can be improved on, IOW, small steps is progress!








POOR STUPID JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not think we ARE ON TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When a LIE-berals says: "I want to make things better"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He MEANS " BETTER FOR LIE-berals"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And AT THE EXPENSE of the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Good LUCK defending your LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idiot Boy has FAILED to silence his critics.....................


using Human Rights Kangaroo Courts................


using "Islamophobia"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


using "systemic racist" SMEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HE HAS FAILED to intimidate on line commentators with his


THREATS of censorship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He has DONE HUGE DAMAGE to his LIE-beral brand by



offering up $600 million dollars to media outlets...............


THAT HE TRUSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

JLM

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POOR STUPID JLM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not think we ARE ON TO HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When a LIE-berals says: "I want to make things better"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He MEANS " BETTER FOR LIE-berals"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And AT THE EXPENSE of the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Good LUCK defending your LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idiot Boy has FAILED to silence his critics.....................


using Human Rights Kangaroo Courts................


using "Islamophobia"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


using "systemic racist" SMEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HE HAS FAILED to intimidate on line commentators with his


THREATS of censorship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He has DONE HUGE DAMAGE to his LIE-beral brand by



offering up $600 million dollars to media outlets...............


THAT HE TRUSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't be an Asshole ALL your life!
 

Hoid

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Don't be an Asshole ALL your life!
says the guy quoting the asshole.

could you possibly stop doing that? Is there really any reason to quote this guy in order to communicate with him?
 

Hoid

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You're good for making people who already take up more band width than anyone should take up twice as much.

Stop quoting long posts you ****ing idiot.