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  1. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Myth, that's funny. No, of course they aren't all on the pay roll of fossil fuel companies. Probably just the ones repeating the same old dry urban legends are paid shills. However, they're many times more vocal than the dissenting scientists who actually work at getting published. They don't...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Anyone who thinks that there isn't a tremendous amount of pressure on politicians to keep the system running as it is now are missing out on some key facts. Maybe you think the whole theory is bogus, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinions. But you I think there are some factors involved...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Right, reducing demand is driving prices up... that would be a miracle to see, preach it!:-P
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    They're thanking you at the gas pump, and don't forget the coal dinosaurs:lol:
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    Hybrid electric mountain bikes

    This bike is powered by the new nano-phosphate lithium ion batteries, the next generation of batteries released last year. The bike is powered by the new DeWalt battery packs that now utilize this technology. Impressive:smile:
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Never caused the initial increase in temperature. I thought you said you understand feedbacks?
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Well you just explained my argument entirely, only you jumped to a faulty conclusion. I know very well that temperature has lead CO2, I also know very well that this is not what is happening now. That anomaly is not found in the past. Try to explain with natural causes how climate change that...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    So you say...not what the data says. It's your job as one arguing against theory to provide evidence to the contrary.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    If Rush Limbaugh is any indication of why misinformation abounds on this issue, here's a post from the fellows at Grist magazine.
  10. Tonington

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Strawman, I'm not arguing the merits of Kyoto. Lol, that was all my own words. I actually do read up on this stuff. Post anything you'd like. Lol. Don't forget pandemics, could catch the bird flu :-?
  11. Tonington

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Last I checked the previous swings were the Earth releasing greenhouse gases in response to physical changes in the climate system. Is the Earth releasing the stored greenhouse gases from it's sinks? No, we are liberating those sinks. The strongest correlation to greenhouse gas increases is our...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    No, there is no silver bullet. The case is, there are mounds of evidence from Physicists, Chemists, Biologists, Climatologists, even Mathematicians and Statisticians. It's all converging, multiple lines of work that have built up the theory. That's why it's called a theory. There are scientists...
  13. Tonington

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Don't feed the conspiracists with language like that. That language is hedging. Say that the current working theory has working science, and those opposing it are still looking for that silver bullet, without luck.
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    High end plug-in hybrid auto

    (right-click, view image for high res ;) ) For $80,000 you can get this 4-door plug-in hybrid sports sedan from Fisker automotive, called Quantum Drive. Seems they've found a way to sex up the hybrids. But this car boasts more than impressive exterior styling, the performance is equally...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    It's punch and counter punch man. What is there to expect when the language calls people gullible for being by duped by a scam, call them whacko, and accuse them of manipulation (irony)? They strike back. It's a political monster.
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    60,000 gallons of oil from tanker in SanFran

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/11/09/MNVQT8TN3.DTL ... Oil began leaking into the water after the 65,131-ton, 810-foot-long ship crashed into the base of a tower of the Bay Bridge's western span in heavy fog at about 8:30 a.m. Wednesday. Within an hour, six emergency...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    You're not entrenched in the orthodoxy yet? Our Kool-aid tastes better:lol:
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    On the extreme weather events, droughts and floods are projected to increase. As far as tornadoes and hurricanes, there really is no conclusive evidence that global warming increases the frequency of these events. While a warming ocean gives more fuel for storms, warming land masses as well as...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    A TV weatherman =/= climatologist. I guess the right-wing bloggers have found their conspiracy, tinfoil abounds in all corners of the blogosphere! The tinfoil will reflect the heat back to space!:roll: