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  1. Tonington

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    The strawmen was the station recorder. I argue your points. I don't need to make up ones to argue. A strawmen is establishing a position in debate and attributing it to the other person. It's a position that I never claimed to support. It's called a straw man because it is a position that is...
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    Breaking news. Hostages taken in Clinton office

    Some wacko apparently has taken two hostages at a Clinton campaign office in New Hampshire. The man is demanding to speak with Hillary. Obama and Edwards have closed their offices in the area.
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    Asbestos found in childrens toy

    The recent Hazardous Materials Act actually allows the import, marketing and sale of children's toys containing asbestos. It's high time that Canada put an end to the asbestos mining industry. I think most Canadians are probably unaware of our own track record when it comes to this hazardous...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    2005 was the hottest year Walter. It's funny that the global climate, which in the past has taken millenia to change half the magnitude that we've experienced this century, and some people are picking a nine year period as example that the change has stopped. Further, lets look at the tired old...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    So you didn't read it. Real objective Extra.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Not surprising at all that you would call a magazine article a paper. Not science.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    No, it's not Mann. Believe it or not Extra there are many other paleo-climate researchers, whose independent studies have yielded similar results. This isn't even paleo-climate. Still with the straw men eh?
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Stopped rising? When? 2005 was the hottest year globally, and 2007 is on pace to beat out previous temperature records in the Northern Hemisphere according to the NOAA. It hasn't stopped rising, it only takes a few years to analyze all the Global measurements to actually give the results for the...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Hah. That's funny.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Absolutely not. The history has allowed us to derive how the system responds to changes. It's only irrelevant in this case because the causes are not the same. The science is still the same. Horse $hit. There is no normal fluctuation right now. Sure there were periods of high and low...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    I don't even know how many times I've responded to this now. It simply doesn't matter what happened in the past, because it has little to do with what is happening now. That past change has however provided the information needed to determine how strong climate forcings are. If a glass of water...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    The 'evidence' is left wanting. Delusional. If the theory is wrong, why is it that there hasn't been a replacement for the theory? Are greenhouse gases a figment of scientists imaginations? Are nutrient cycles a fairy tale? Why is there no encompassing proposal put forward by skeptics-in place...
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    Japan to resume Humpback whaling!

    This year's whaling by Japan in the Southern Ocean will take 1000 minkes and 50 fin whales. For the first time in 30 years, the humpbacks will also be targeted by the harpoons. The Japanese are arguing that they must kill the humpbacks to get an accurate view of the genetic make-up of the...
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    Our cooling world

    Oh my. The actual consensus statement said that the next cycle was impossible to predict accurately. What it actually said was this: Then they talk of the Maunder Minimum. Theres no conclusive evidence to suggest that that is where we are heading, but even if we do experience a similar period...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    It's not actually at odds. The peninsula Gopher writes of is very unstable. While that particular area is experiencing melting, and ice slipping along into the ocean, the continent as a whole is increasing in mass. Theres a number of explanations for the instability in the Western peninsula...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    What argument. So far all you've said is: global warming is fake global warming activists aren't objective Gore is a hypocrite, global warming must be a scam global warming activists are liberal wackos you provide op-ed pieces as truth you use strawmen arguments you associate me with Gore...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Apparently you didn't check out the thread I directed you to. Open your eyes indeed. Mine are wide open. 8O Perhaps I should have said use your brain, you're probably already 'grown up'. That is a load of sh|t. There have been studies published every year lauded by skeptics. If anything, the...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    There's definitely many liberties taken in that essay. Heres one for starters: In the preceding paragraph, he mentions sinks like vegetation and soil. Then he concludes that scientists can not determine what sink is taking up half of the human emissions. Is he serious? What kind of research...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Grow up EagleSmack. Go to the thread on Gore winning the Nobel prize to see my opinion. He's not my savior. If you think I get my info from Gore, perhaps that's a reflection of your own information gathering methods on this subject. I prefer to base my opinion on papers with footnotes and...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    And Gore bashing is another way to deflect criticism against the business as usual approach and the lack of proof against the theory. It's an ad hominem attack, not at all an indictment of the theory. A reason not to invest in Gore's company, but that is all.