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  1. Tonington

    First coal plant denied permit based on CO2

    Earlier this year, the Supreme court ruled that CO2 and other greenhouse gases indeed do count as a pollutant under the EPA. This is something I have argued for a long time now. It doesn't matter that it is found in the atmosphere, anymore than it matters that cyanide is found in the biosphere...
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    Evolution and the wisdom of crowds

    Came across an interesting article today. The introductory paragraph: The article uses three examples of 'wisdom of crowds' systems, which the author asserts have similar functionality to evolution: 1. Wikipedia 2. Prediction markets 3. Recommendation systems It's a bit of a read, but I think...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Do you think philanthropy aimed at strengthening democracy is a bad thing? Do you think partisan government should be able to dictate what scientists say? Did you read the response from Hanson, with the letter addressing the concerns on whistle blowing?
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Go back a few posts to see where they say exactly that. As to the funding, well Hanson explained that. An organization which gave him legal advice was funded by George Soros. Science has been stifled down south, to the point where the scientists aren't to talk about anything without an...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    The first article you posted also contained the tidbit that Hanson switched his tune. The original article from Investors Buisness Daily also said the same thing. It's where I got the last quote from. As you said normally, reputable journalists will acknowledge when they made a mistake...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    A different group who said what? The blog you posted is based on the story which ran in Investors Business Daily, where they say: He allowed Rasool to use his model. It was not his study. Yet this story spread like wildfire to all those blogs, like the one you copied from.
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    More democratic measures by PM Harper...

    The Toronto star has uncovered a plan by Harper to supplant the National Press Gallery, with a government controlled media center. According to the documents obtained via an Access to Information request, the plan code named Shoe Store Project has been in the works for a year. Harper has had a...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Well they also stand by the smear that he supported the notion of an impending ice age, which is unfounded. His model was used by a scientist who did make such a claim, but he was not part of that study, only in that he allowed somebody to use his model.
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    Weird post display

    Is it just me or does something not look right here?
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    Our cooling world

    Indeed.
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    Denialists at it again, trying to drum up consensus

    This is really pathetic. Some of you may remember a petition some years back from the Oregon Institute of Science and medicine. It was known as the "Oregon Petition," and famous for having approximately 17,800 signatures giving their "expert" support against the Kyoto Protocol. Scrutiny of that...
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    Our cooling world

    It's always amusing to me Pangloss. In one instance, the climate deniers/delayers will trumpet things like this cooling story. Then in other instances, they will say, hey, the warming is all from the sun. Not contradictory in their skepticism at all.... The fact is that, the output from the sun...
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    Harper makes deal with Nova Scotia

    Harper just now is announcing that there is an agreement between the Federal Government and the Province of Nova Scotia. Nova Scotia will still have to choose from one of the two formulas, but in the future should the equalization formula result in a loss, say if there is a growth in oil and gas...
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    Our cooling world

    Dr. Timothy Ball has lead some serious hackney approaches. National Resources Stewardship Project and Friends of Science, both prime examples of astroturfing.
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    It was indeed the first story Extra. Here's a response from Hansen to the story. He has responded more than once. http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/distro_Lawlessness_070927.pdf In response to his supposed part in the ice age saga, a most persistent myth, he has this to say...
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    Dallas college bans saggy pants

    http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent//wfaa071004_lj_saggy.139a1356c.html I just have a funny picture in my head of students trying to run laps while wearing the saggy pants:lol:
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    First file sharing lawsuit by recording industry

    http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xhtml?story_id=0030009XBNYU This isn't actually the first lawsuit, thoguh it is the first P2P case to go to trial by a jury. The RIAA alleges that Miss Thomas distributed over 1700 copyrighted files in 2005. Further still: Seems they're ramping up the pressure.
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    It's funny though. I'm sure the deniers will jump all over this. Probably even the ones who deny the effects of ozone destroying molecules...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    Do you have a link to the report NIf? I haven't found it, but I have found other quotes from the author on his findings. For one, he notes that there is extreme warming on the Northern Antarctic peninsula, one of the fastest warming places on earth in his words. As you pointed out, he himself...
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    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    I know of Lomborg's work. A famous climate delayer. His arguments are bogus. For one, waiting for breakthrough technologies is completely the wrong approach. We have technology to cut emissions now. Those in the energy industry well know, that significant breakthrough technologies are a rarity...