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  1. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Ahh, more rhetoric. The computer you're typing on was made using the same scientific principles. Seems to work just fine. So if you're not using science, what are you using? No it's not! It's a question!
  2. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    That's not a belief, if you clicked on the links I posted earlier you'd see. It's actual science. Do you also deny that different warming perturbations will manifest with different characteristics in our climate system?
  3. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    How does you example explain the energy imbalance? More energy enters the top of the atmosphere than leaves. How does your example explain a warming troposphere and a cooling stratosphere? A present, we know the Earth is warming, we know that the chemical constituents in our atmosphere are...
  4. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Who is trying to correct whoms faulty thinking? I gave evidence for why your thinking is faulty, you resort to rhetoric... Also, if you're not trying to insult, I don't go by Tonkahead. It's Tonington.
  5. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    You don't even make sense when you try to insult: I've already looked for myself. I posted material that contradicts you, you outright refuse to look at it (or under thew bed as it were) and you continue on proclaiming that the greenhouse theory is flawed, blah blah blah. I'm adamant about...
  6. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    :D Moving goal posts ehh? It's so much easier for you to talk about how my content has changed, and without examples I'll note, than it is to actually address the content. So, how about you provide examples of how the content in my links has changed? You're all talk, and no walk. That...
  7. Tonington

    What to do about global warming

    Ahhh, so remember how Extra brought up the Spanish example of renewable energy? Turns out those numbers aren't so solid. Article here.
  8. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    You're in denial. Scientists know what fingerprints are associated with various forcings on the climate. They have found the fingerprint of an apparent enhanced greenhouse warming in our climate system. They know how much of our emissions are being absorbed by the oceans and terrestrial...
  9. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Nobody is asking you to remain an idiot...it's not an appeal to authority to recognize that without the years of experience in a field, that you're probably not able to place new discoveries and new knowledge within the proper context to know what it even means. I mean, sure, an electrical...
  10. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    :D Walt, apparently you have a hard time with what unusual is too. Or, you think unusual weather events are indicative of global cooling...a phenomenon which is completely ad hoc and without robust agreement or predictive capacity. Hilarious, as usual!
  11. Tonington

    Fish lovers & farmed fish haters- aquaculture done right

    There's been at least a few threads on this forum that take a pessimistic view of aquaculture/mariculture. To be certain, not all aquaculture is created equally. I could bore you all with the details, but some people have a better way with words. Watch this chef, talking about two love stories...
  12. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Ahhh, so he goes from the greenhouse theory violates thermodynamics, to posting an article that acknowledges that greenhouse gases DO absorb and emit radiation. But this time the effect is saturated....complete nonsense. The terms you want to search for now DB are "pressure broadening". Seek...
  13. Tonington

    Adaptation to climate change

    So many threads arguing about the stuff that's solid, far less content on the stuff that matters, adaptation and mitigation. Here's a good paper appearing in Environmental Health Perspectives: Urban Form and Extreme Heat Events: Are Sprawling Cities more Vulnerable to Climate Change than...
  14. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Sea ice update for "our cooling world" Ice Volume anomaly, June 18, 2010 Ice extent, June 26, 2010
  15. Tonington

    What to do about global warming

    No, you've demonstrated the hurdles. Don't delude yourself. Yet I give examples of where these wedges are working. We already have technology that will work. The reality that everyone acknowledges is that there is no single solution, that it has to be a portfolio or suite of solutions. That's...
  16. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Leakegate: a retraction Oh that darned IPCC, making up stuff about Amazon rainforest....err actually no, they didn't, and now the Sunday Times in the UK has been forced to retract an article by Jonathon Leake, perhaps the worst reporter in the world. Scan of the retraction here...
  17. Tonington

    What to do about global warming

    They like Lomborgs plan because it involves very little difficulty. They enjoy his view because they live in a fairy-tale world. Lomborg's plan boils down to this:
  18. Tonington

    What to do about global warming

    The bottle is not an entirely closed system, just as Earth is not. You'll note that the source of heat, the Sun or the lamps, were not in the bottle... The analogy of a greenhouse is a very poor one. Greenhouses warm because they block convection. Greenhouse gases warm because they make the...
  19. Tonington

    What to do about global warming

    Greenhouse gases were discovered before there even was widespread environmental awareness. They certainly do exist. YouTube - Greenhouse effect (in a bottle) explained YouTube - Iain Stewart demonstrates infrared radiation absorption by CO2
  20. Tonington

    What to do about global warming

    You're not remembering right. Carbon dioxide does not reflect or even interact with the incoming solar radiation. It's the solar energy that is reflected from Earth's surfaces, and radiated back by warmed surfaces which interacts with carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. It's because the...