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Heh, the similarity to the arguments made by deniers to the cave men is hilarious! Like the global warming on mars and SUV canard. I didn't think that the nuanced explanations of evidence with observations and theory were that difficult to understand, but maybe I over-estimated the capabilities...

So a quick question as a foil for your rhetoric beav. Which group lobbies for power producers that contribute to the grid to be paid fair compensation? Those who wish to mitigate and prevent climate change, or the large energy corporations and their lobbyists, many of which have been...

...Extra you are a prolific recycler. This thread is a repeat of one portion of another, one which you asked the same thing, and you were given answers, which you then proceeded to say would not work. Denial. Par for the course. Anyways, here it is, again. One framework. It's not rigid, the...

re: "Bartin" Alternate Theories Rants...just keeping them together.... Alternate theories would be a good place for it...

re: "Bartin" Alternate Theories Rants...just keeping them together.... He's a sun worshiper. There's a lot of bunk in there...

I know you're eager to post this one too Walt. I'll save you the trouble though. I know how you love to watch for these meaningless daily snapshots:

Yup, it's been warm. NOAA's data looks pretty much the same: And the satellites are showing the same thing:

To be expected. That's what separates true skeptics from deniers. Skeptics are persuaded by evidence. Deniers think neat talking points do the trick.

It's like I said in the counterpart thread to this one, McCarthyism is alive and well in the 21st century. The University of Virginia has hired a legal counsel to advise them, as their own legal counsel is actually employed by the State AG office. They should seek an injunction to this fishing...

So it's only contamination when it's found in conventional deposits around the globe? Then when abiogenic pockets of low carbon alkenes are found, suddenly there is no contamination at all? I call Bull $hit on that one. From their parents, and from the environment. Yet not all hydrocarbons are...

Right, because oil was never made from fish and lizards. They have produced oil from algae. Bio-diesel as well. As to the abiogenic theory of fossil fuels, no proponent has developed an explanation for biological markers found in oil, gas, etc. see...

Read any geology text book.

Breaking news, At least two fighter jets have escorted a Cathay Pacific Airways flight into Vancouver International Airport due to a potential security threat. CF18 Hornet fighter jets acting under the North American Aerospace Defence Command flew alongside the plane from Hong Kong...

And though nobody here considers him relevant to this discussion, you find that he is. That is interesting...

Certainly some hydrocarbons.

Over millions of years...Long enough to call it a non-renewable resource.

The spaghetti monster is not the same as scientific results. Fail. ETA: And who here mentioned more people believing in man made climate change as an example of anything?

So what? If more people believe in the flying spaghetti monster that doesn't mean it exists. How much oil has been pumped using an abiotic model of exploration? Show me the chemistry for creating the long chain hydrocarbons without biologic mechanisms involved. More than that, why is the oil...

You need to understand that there is such a thing as replacement values, and when resources are consumed at a rate beyond replacement values, then the resource is diminished. And you need to understand that fossil reserves are finite. So using energy extravagantly-read wastefully- is only to the...