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I've yet to see any climate effects on nutation. Just because the atmosphere is involved, doesn't mean that it is climate forcing the nutation. That's ridiculous. Are you going to claim next that climate causes every single tornado, hurricane, ice storm, drought, sand storm, hail storm, and...

Well, of the papers that are available from the google scholar you linked to, they note the well studied atmospheric excitation, due to angular momentum. They also note it is stochastic. As I already said, stochastic means that there is no expected value, whereas climate, the average, by...

It's telling Petros that you want to separate anthropogenic from geophysics.

I personally think it's funny that you conflate weather and climate. :D

Yes, that's exactly the point. Climate is the average weather over thirty years. Any climate impacts that may alter atmospheric pressure, or ocean pressure waves, are going to be...deterministic. Weather impacts are stochastic. Climate is not. These studies are clearly finding stochastic...

So...where's the climate part? I see plenty of investigations of atmospheric excitation, as well as oceanic pressure waves. I don't see any link to climate. The atmospheric excitation is stochastic. That's a random process, whereas climate is very clearly deterministic, and a long term trend (by...

I said no a few times already. I'm trying to get the information out of you that you think is relevant. If I don't know it, then I don't know it Petros. It's not for a lack of looking either. Though, at least now you'll say what the mechanism you think is capable of altering the earth's...

Can you answer questions without using questions? Yes or no? What is the mechanism you think exists for the atmosphere to change the exertion of tidal forces on our planet?

I have looked. Now put up or shut up. It should be evident in a scholar search if it's there. It isn't. Why is it so hard for you to be direct? Cripes. Just explain yourself, it's not that hard. I'm sure you can muster up enough keystrokes to get it out.

Exactly. I see plenty of examples using nutations to predict future climate parameters, but none predicting nutations from climate. The lack of a mechanism to explain such an association is a problem :D

Right, except when I post something it's either my understanding of something, or a link to a direct source. I know what a nutation is. I know why nutations happen. Why don't you explain how climate can impact the gravity exerted on Earth by the Sun and Moon.

Instead of beating about the bush, why don't you just post what's on your mind.

No, nutations are impacted by tidal forces. Climate responds to nutations, it can't cause them.

It is. You can't even admit that we don't require full kit knowledge of a system to delineate cause and effect. You can't even see that the change in temperature of 0.27% compared to a change in atmospheric carbon dioxide of 36% is what is driving the acidification in the ocean. Charles' law...

Yeah, so you say. All of the puzzles we have are probably mostly missing. It doesn't matter. We learn new things incrementally, and we know enough now to identify the cause of the warming. They aren't magical, they are what they are. Go back and read the posts. Milankovitch, which is orbital...

Funny how all of a sudden, the deniers are willing to accept a model, without even knowing the parameters of the model, or any other details besides that it conflicts with the established greenhouse explanation.

There is no correlation involved. They are puzzle pieces that fit together. I'm expecting you to be able to assimilate multiple facts at the same time. It stands to reason, that if the atmosphere is not emitting as much radiation back to space, that the Earth warms. It stands to reason, that if...

No, all that is required is that you read the research. Even attempting to understand it first before you quibble about my choice of words. Yet we don't know everything about diabetes, yet we still can know meaningful things that save lives, because we can assess cause and effect without knowing...

No there isn't. An apparent enhanced greenhouse is the same thing as an atmosphere which is becoming more opaque to infrared radiation. It's apparent because it's noted, by anyone who looks at the radiation budget. And it does. There is no part of that explanation that does not. If you haven't...

It means precisely that the Earth's atmosphere is now more opaque to infrared radiation than it was 150 years ago. There's a few ways to do this, one is an estimate, and the other is using known isotopes of carbon dioxide. The estimate is to use the records of fuel consumption, and that...