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  1. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    No, not even close. He just compiles a list of climate scientists, and ranks them by citation index. He then categorizes them by the declarations their names are attached to. Inhofe actually picked out specific scientists, and would like to charge them with crimes. He doesn't have any...
  2. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Here's a well known fact that those claiming UHI contaminates the surface record ought to know, but apparently don't. The global temperature record is processed to remove the UHI. It's done by looking at satellite images to determine the brightness of the surface, and then the "bright" urban...
  3. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Ok, page 6: However, there is no established physical mechanism, and so solar-climate variability is: ‣ Controversial subject ‣ Not included in current climate models Like I said, and cited papers for, there is no evidence of any physical established mechanism. The second part, is clearly...
  4. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Check the date of those papers I cited Petros. These are articles on the leading edge of cloud and aerosol physics. Correlations like those you mention don't mean much without causation, and that's what is routinely found to be missing. The guys from NASA say that solar irradience is...
  5. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    No, there is no subjective interpretation here. The claims of those lists are that they are unconvinced of the anthropogenic theory, which is exactly how the paper classified them. The Leipzig declaration, states outright that there is no evidence at all. There's nothing subjective about...
  6. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    The GCR hypothesis is still not convincing, for a number of reasons. The first is, there is no statistically significant trend in GCR, yet there is in the global average surface temperature. That means that there is a clear signal in the temperature data, clear enough to be differentiated from...
  7. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    You sign up for something every time you sign your name to a document. You are signing for your support of what the document entails. Nobody appointed them their opinions... He ranks them by citation index, and he classifies them by the types of documents they have signed. Those who sign...
  8. Tonington

    How the GW myth is perpetuated

    The lists that those scientists themselves signed...so if you don't want people to know what your views are, then don't sign your name to a document. By using lists they themselves signed, it removes bias from the methodology of that paper. But then again, who cares about methodology...oh...
  9. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Probably the same thing that happened the last time we went through the cycle. There's always a chance we could get hit with a blast from the sun.
  10. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Sigh.... 2010 has been warmer than 1998, but 1998 had the larger ENSO index. Also, 1998 had more solar influence as well. We're in a deep solar minimum, and it's still warmer than 1998. Sunspot number: Total Solar Irradience: You're running out of causality...
  11. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    June isn't current enough? OK, and to address your concerns about urban heat Islands, we'll use satellite data instead of thermometer based measurements. Here's a screenshot: So, 2010 still warmest in satellite records too. Someone needs to tell that damn ocean (70% of the surface that...
  12. Tonington

    Our cooling world

    Brr...
  13. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    Well there's some middle ground where I agree with you. But I can swing that back to carbon dioxide too. The carbonate compensation depth is affected by the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide. When the bio-available aragonite (the form of calcium utilized by most calcifiers) lags behind...
  14. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    That's an intelligent response...unfortunately taxes won't cure you of those irrelevant conclusions.
  15. Tonington

    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    "Unfortunately, the global political fight never has been about the environment, but about expanding government power domestically and creating, internationally, a socialist, money-sucking scheme to transfer wealth from the first world to the third. That effort is proceeding." Why worry...
  16. Tonington

    The Vaccine Song

    I apologize in advance for another vaccine thread, but this song really deserves it's own thread. YouTube - The Vaccine Song
  17. Tonington

    9/11, an inside job?

    Where are you getting this? Where did I chastise? Where did I belittle? Where did I ostracize? Holy crap, you asked a question, and then I gave an answer. The rest is you filling in the blanks. The ironic part about that is that those who do subscribe to conspiracy theories tend to fill in the...
  18. Tonington

    9/11, an inside job?

    Wrong. I think they are wrong.
  19. Tonington

    9/11, an inside job?

    I don't know, you tell me. Have I ever called them mental cases? Yeah...I don't believe in God or Allah or Ganesh either; that doesn't mean I think those that do are mental cases...
  20. Tonington

    9/11, an inside job?

    I don't know. Nobody in my family was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. I don't know. I don't know. Yes. I don't know. So far as I know the questions have been answered. Or do you mean they didn't get the answers they wanted? Hmmm. I never called them a mental case. I offered an...