Best for America..Obama or McCain?

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gopher

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Flip Flop McCain as president? He is no different (today) than is Bush and the world cannot afford anything like that.

Prior to this time, with the exception of Nixon, no other Republican was more criticized by his own party than was McLame who was known to change his view on a subject from one day to the next. Clearly he has no intention of changing the failed political direction Bush and the Reaganites have taken. This will ultimately lead to national bankruptcy, a further decline for the USA, and more international war.

Whatever Obama's limitations may be, they do not begin to approach McLame's ineptitude.
 

L Gilbert

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I'm not sure about that, it is more like the old conflict in the USA.....isolationist or involved?

they get crap either way........the isolationist USA gets it for being late into WWII, the interventionist USA gets it for Iraq.......

BTW, McCain is not Bush.

And, BTW (as I seem to have been appointed McCain's sole defender), McCain actually knows where Canada is, and speaks of us like a friend and ally.

Not even close.
Did you actually read what I said? Did you read the topic of the thread? Who would be best for the US. It has nothing to do with how the rest of the world views the States. It is about which one would be best for the States. And I cannot think of many circumstances where the States actually paid much attention as to what the rest of the planet thought.

I did not say McCain was Bush. I simply said that I think he will just be another Bush: as in birds of a feather. Someone who actually paid attention to the needs of the citizens of the States rather than their buddies oil interests outside of the States and meddling in other countries' affairs would be better for the States.

And BTW, i think Obama has an idea of where Canada is. Whatever relevance this has with the topic, I know not.
 

scratch

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Uh-huh.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to explain the "real" gov't to we poor unfortunates that don't understand the complex inner workings of the universe......

Military Industrial Complex
The Banking Industry
Lobbyists
 

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Did you actually read what I said? Did you read the topic of the thread? Who would be best for the US. It has nothing to do with how the rest of the world views the States. It is about which one would be best for the States. And I cannot think of many circumstances where the States actually paid much attention as to what the rest of the planet thought.

I did not say McCain was Bush. I simply said that I think he will just be another Bush: as in birds of a feather. Someone who actually paid attention to the needs of the citizens of the States rather than their buddies oil interests outside of the States and meddling in other countries' affairs would be better for the States.

And BTW, i think Obama has an idea of where Canada is. Whatever relevance this has with the topic, I know not.

Yeah, I did read.

Yeah, deficit spending is lunacy.....both Obama and McCain will continue it, but McCain probably less so.

Yes, the USA needs universal health care. Good luck. Especially with their finances a mess.

Obama voted for a ban on handguns and for the continuation of partial birth abortions. Both domestic issues last time I looked.

McCain will work with both parties and has, on immigration and on torture legislation.....to name just two. Obama is so far left he scares the hell out of most Republicans, while McCain is much closer to the centre of the US political spectrum....so who is the unifier?

McCain is better for the US internally as well as in foreign affairs...
 

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Yeah, I did read.

Yeah, deficit spending is lunacy.....both Obama and McCain will continue it, but McCain probably less so.

Yes, the USA needs universal health care. Good luck. Especially with their finances a mess.

Obama voted for a ban on handguns and for the continuation of partial birth abortions. Both domestic issues last time I looked.

McCain will work with both parties and has, on immigration and on torture legislation.....to name just two. Obama is so far left he scares the hell out of most Republicans, while McCain is much closer to the centre of the US political spectrum....so who is the unifier?

McCain is better for the US internally as well as in foreign affairs...

So in other words the US needs another Bill Clinton. The one who balanced the books, ganered forgien respect, didn't fight needless wars, created an economic boom....etc etc. While GWB ruined it all in a mere 4 years.....yes what the country needs is more GWB in a different name called McCain.

I think it's time to give the other guy a try.
 

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Flip Flop McCain as president? He is no different (today) than is Bush and the world cannot afford anything like that.

Prior to this time, with the exception of Nixon, no other Republican was more criticized by his own party than was McLame who was known to change his view on a subject from one day to the next. Clearly he has no intention of changing the failed political direction Bush and the Reaganites have taken. This will ultimately lead to national bankruptcy, a further decline for the USA, and more international war.

Whatever Obama's limitations may be, they do not begin to approach McLame's ineptitude.
I agree, he'll require fewer battery changes and grease jobs being a newer sportier model eh. They should be able to drive him trouble free for two full terms.
 

ottawabill

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Canadians always seem to miss the point when it comes to their southern Friends.

Obama maybe the best choice for the U.S. (my opinion outstanding) but McCain and all republican policy is generally much better for it's neighbours. Free enterprise and open borders are a conservative policy, where as Liberal policy closes and protects. This makes for harder access to the U.S. market.

Likely the U.S. needs both policies of late. Strong powerful nation and much better health care. Less government and real automatic weapon control..
 

talloola

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Yeah, I did read.



McCain will work with both parties and has, on immigration and on torture legislation.....to name just two. Obama is so far left he scares the hell out of most Republicans, while McCain is much closer to the centre of the US political spectrum....so who is the unifier?
You are contradicting Obama's statements, as he has said, many times, he will work with,
and wants to work, on both sides of the isle, he has made that clear so many times, he
has said he wants to cut down on the stubborness of sticking to party lines, no matter
what.

McCain is better for the US internally as well as in foreign affairs..

So, continuing to dominate the globe, with arrogance, and threaten others, and
attack others for 'no reason', is 'BETTER'?
What an assanine statement, or I guess you think that's OK.
 

B00Mer

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Obama was raised in Indonesia, a predominantly Muslim nation.

He associated with know terrorists who have killed U.S. Citizens. Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn.


Quick make a choice : Ass Clown (left) or War Hero (right)

I will trust someone who has dedicated his life to the United States over some Ass Clown smooth talking unpatriotic dumbass who is ashamed to wear a U.S. flag lapel.
 
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talloola

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Obama was raised in Indonesia, a predominantly Muslim nation.

He associated with know terrorists who have killed U.S. Citizens. Rashid Khalidi, William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn.


Quick make a choice : Ass Clown (left) or War Hero (right)

I will trust someone who has dedicated his life to the United States over some Ass Clown smooth talking unpatriotic dumbass who is ashamed to wear a U.S. flag lapel.

What you have posted in untrue and ignorant, you know as well as I do, that Obama
was born in Hawaii, schooled for awhile in Indonesia, when his mother married an
indonesian man, but she returned him to his grandparents in Hawaii to complete
his schooling, and he went on to college in the u.s. You obviously have never listened
to either one of them, you nothing about politics at all, just 'smut'.
'The dumbass lie telling fear mongoring idiot' is you.
Neither candidate should be treated with such disrespect.
 

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if you think that the candidate has not already been selected for you....??? And that you actually have a choice by your so called vote....??? They have done a good brainwashing trick on ya take care enjoy your down fall....:roll::-?:roll:.


AND THERE YOU HAVE IT!

It is not even November and McCaine has already STOLEN the election. I can hear it now! Four years of how McCaine stole the election. It is the new status quo when the GOP wins. This is so funny.

I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN!

So predictable.
 

B00Mer

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What you have posted in untrue and ignorant, you know as well as I do, that Obama
was born in Hawaii, schooled for awhile in Indonesia, when his mother married an
indonesian man, but she returned him to his grandparents in Hawaii to complete
his schooling, and he went on to college in the u.s. You obviously have never listened
to either one of them, you nothing about politics at all, just 'smut'.
'The dumbass lie telling fear mongoring idiot' is you.
Neither candidate should be treated with such disrespect.

:roll:

Before you start calling people "ignorant, fear mongoring idiot" Mr. Obamabot, read the post. Where did I say he was not born in the United States? I stated he was raised in Indonesia, which he was.

It's obvious you feel strongly about the issue, by your low class response and name calling. I'm am glad you are not voting in the U.S. election Nov 4th, so your opinions are just that, opinions and carry no real weight.

As a dual citizen (which I am) who will be voting this election in both countries, I will NOT vote for somebody who is unpatriotic.


I don't agree with his protectionist ideology, his tax policies or his stand on the war in Iraq.
 

talloola

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Well, McCain spent several years in a government institution in a communist country, so there ya go.

Yeah, good point :lol: and they both have a completely american way of talking, and not
the accent of either indonesia or north vietnam, wonder why.;-)
 
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