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einmensch

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Dancing Loon is a North German--a Berlina Icke?-ask her what she thinks of Ostereicher?
 

Zzarchov

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Zzarkoff-Austria was occupied by French, British, American and Russian troops. To move from one part of Vienna to another each person had a passport. In 1955 Austria regained its freedom. Hitler was exiled by Austria went to Germany and returned. Wehrmacht troops entered Austria to enforce the Anschluss. The Nazis held a plebiscite within the following month, where they received 99.73% of the vote. These votes were bogus just as they were up until 1955. Austrians do not consider themselves Germans. Österreicher denken an sich als Deutsch nicht. Sie besprechen etwas, dass Sie nicht verstehen. Large numbers of Ostereicher sind Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenians , Hungarians--. Yes there were Austrian Nazis and we all know that Austrians were building Cathedrals while the Germans were still swinging in the trees.

Thats pretty funny, someones got a real defensive nature about Austria.

Oh no, Hitler was Exhiled, Hiter was imprisonned in Germany. Big deal, Austria was a fascist state BEFORE Hitler invaded, and the Austrians did very much consider themselves German.

The Austrian Nazi party was so well supported that thats why Fascist forces assumed control of Austria (at the time the Nazi's were soviet aligned, being socialists utilizing the brown shirts) and aligned with Italy against communist encroachment (Hitler later switched steps with the Night of long knives)

Thats why the vote was 99.73%, thats why unlike anywhere else the Nazi's took, Austria had no real resistance to Nazi rule, hell, Germany had far more resistance to Nazi rule.
 

earth_as_one

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Since 1975 I have been watching TVO vis-a-vis what happened to The Jews. Since then up to the present day PBS, Discovery Civilization, The History Channel, the Military Channel and a plethora of others have repeatedly aired footage about the plight of the Jews. I know the footage like the back of my hand. This was what everything is about: money. Those who do not have it want it and will do anything to get it.
The Jews through the generosity of the British were afforded the land that they now inhabit.
When even a hint of its being invaded or threatened, they act quickly as they will with Iran, more power to them.
Logic lies with Israel because they want to survive and will.
To be truthful I have given up on this subject as others should. If it has commercial value, that is sick and pathetic.

People who support injustice and oppression usually don't like a spotlight.

They'd rather sweep stuff like this under the rug and ignore it. Do you believe ignoring 4 million + nationless refugees will make them disappear or end the violence resulting from that injustice and oppression?

I also notice Israeli apologists try to ignore the million or so non-Jews living in what is now Palestine. Its like they actually believe the nonsense that Palestine was a "land without people". Arabs and Muslims lived there before Zionists began cleansing the land of non-Jews and long before European Jews immigrated enmasse.

Its human nature to fight for justice and freedom when you have injustice and oppression. These people will eventually defeat Israel. Canada should begin preparing for the flight of millions of Israelis now. When Israel falls, it will happen suddenly in a bloody series of battles over weeks. We won't have time process Israeli immigrant applications.
 

#juan

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earth_as_one

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Israel already experiances negative population growth and migration off the stinking sinking ship of fake state. Soon they'll all be in Canada the new promised land.
I doubt many people want to live in a war zone. Innocent civilians should be able to leave the war zone. If they choose to come here we should tell them " Welcome to Canada!"
 

einmensch

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Zzarkoff-Austrians do not consider themselves Germans. Any Austrians here to set Zz straight. Read the article http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/triumph/tr-austria.htm

Laws for half of Germany are not a Constitution Colpy>> Are you saying that USA occupation troops have remained in Germany even after 1990 because they were asked to stay?
Israel even the USA is now stating that Israel's expansion is a roadblock to peace.
 

Colpy

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Zzarkoff-Austrians do not consider themselves Germans. Any Austrians here to set Zz straight. Read the article http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/triumph/tr-austria.htm

Laws for half of Germany are not a Constitution Colpy>> Are you saying that USA occupation troops have remained in Germany even after 1990 because they were asked to stay?
Israel even the USA is now stating that Israel's expansion is a roadblock to peace.

Sigh

The posting is the Constitution of Germany....it was amended after the fall of the Berlin Wall to allow the re-unification of the nation, but it is the same document. It recognizes the sovereignty of the German people exclusively............therefore there were NO "occupation" forces in West Germany after 1949, and none in Germany at all after 1990.

NATO troops have been posted to Germany steadily since 1949, but Germany is a full member of that alliance......she could withdraw at any time, and the removal of foreign troops would require only a request.......

The world does not exist as you see it simply because it's existence in that mode would support your belief structure......

Germany and Japan were REBUILT by the USA, and then left to their own devices.

Imperialism?

I think NOT!
 

dancing-loon

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Where did you get the "Jewish population living there" ? Between they and the Arab population who lived there (Palestine) you would have the Palestinians who have full rights to be there.
I agree with you, Wolf!!

Here is a guy who knows exactly what the problem down there is:
Neve Gordon:
Israel's problem, since its 1967 victory, is that it wants Palestinian land but not the people who live on it.

An excerpt from his book
Another significant change that has transpired over the past 41 years involves the Israeli government’s relationship to trees, the symbol of life. If in 1968 Israel helped Palestinians in the Gaza Strip plant some 618,000 trees and provided farmers with improved varieties of seeds for vegetables and field crops, during the first three years of the second Intifada Israel destroyed more than ten percent of Gaza’s agricultural land and uprooted over 226,000 trees.

The appearance and proliferation of the flag on the one hand, and the razing of trees on the other, signify a fundamental transformation in Israel’s attempts to control the occupied Palestinian inhabitants. It appears as if Israel decided to alter its methods of upholding the occupation, replacing a politics of life, which aimed to secure the existence and livelihood of the Palestinian inhabitants, with a politics of death.
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/51150.html
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Scratch is almost right.... it is of no use, in another word. futile, to discuss this Israeli topic! But, since they are so often in the foreground of the news it is hard not to get tempted to comment. Also, one feels a sense of solidarity with the struggling Palestinians.
 

#juan

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IMPHO-BFEs---
Enough has been said and written and downloaded about this.
Useless tripe.
Israel is the most advanced in every area concerning the Middle East and other countries that would see them destroyed. This will never happen, not again.
They have the most advanced intelligence services, the most advanced military equipment and stolen stealth technology.
They are operating covertly in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran, Iraq and other countries that would do them harm.
Go to Tel Aviv and tell them what to do. Good luck if they do not lock you up and toss the key.
So Iran has a standing army of what four or five million, big deal.
If Israel wants to put you out of commission they will and you will be no more than a second thought, if that.
Rather than believing what you think to be true, face reality and deal with it.
Yet this appears too difficult a task for you so the story never ends and saying that you are wrong about this is not in your vocabulary. I find this vulgar and sickening.
Get a life and focus on your true responsibility which if you do not know, is your homeland.
scratch
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Who died and made you the authority on this issue? Israel has the best and most advanced military that U.S. citizens could buy for them. The same could be said for their economy.
 

MikeyDB

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Israel is the child-state of America. Just too bad that most Americans have no idea how much it costs them for their politicians to curry the favor of the Jewish population in America.
 

einmensch

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Olmert said he felt personally affronted because he had worked so hard for the organizations named in the accusations, which included the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial and the Nazi watchdog Simon Wiesenthal Center.

And that answers all-who dare argue with that--the magic words have been spoken

-Is
Ms Rice pointing downwith such a serious look and Olmert grinning with humour?
 

Canaduh

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Canadians commenting on something that they have no idea about, and they say Canada isn't America. Tell me what you would do if Palestinian terrorist bombers have free access to your children's school bus, play area or just in fact any part of the country. When you have JUST 1 of the 4000+ katyusha/qasam rockets fired during the 2006 conflict hit your house, then you will know.

The security wall was supposedly a bad idea even some Israelis called it unjust, it dramatically reduced the amount of suicide bombers crossing through the west bank. Years on no one talks about it, the current circumstances will be the same.

God gave Israel to us, shalom.
 

dancing-loon

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And I say "Welcome to Canada"
Oops ... has Canada changed it's policy?
In 1938, thirty-two nations, including Canada, attended the Evian Conference to discuss the problem of Jewish refugees fleeing Nazi Germany, but refused further Jewish immigration. In 1939, a shipload of German Jewish refugees aboard the S.S. St. Louis, were refused sanctuary in Canada and forced to return to Europe. During the Holocaust, Canada admitted only about 5,000 Jews — one of the worst records of any of the refugee receiving countries.

What I find so very unfair is that the Natives have no say as to who should be allowed in and who not, also how many. We took their land, shoved them onto reserves, and then opened the door for every Tom, Dick and Harry... including me!
 

lone wolf

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Canadians commenting on something that they have no idea about, and they say Canada isn't America. Tell me what you would do if Palestinian terrorist bombers have free access to your children's school bus, play area or just in fact any part of the country. When you have JUST 1 of the 4000+ katyusha/qasam rockets fired during the 2006 conflict hit your house, then you will know.

The security wall was supposedly a bad idea even some Israelis called it unjust, it dramatically reduced the amount of suicide bombers crossing through the west bank. Years on no one talks about it, the current circumstances will be the same.

God gave Israel to us, shalom.

First off ... we DO have the groundwork for the same situation. We just went about it in a different way.
We may have wronged them in our own illusions of superiority, but we grew wise.
We didn't taunt them with our heritage - the National Grudge.
We may have set aside land reserved for them - but we didn't go stealing that land (and their homes) all in the name of more settlement.
We welcome their kids to ride our busses and to go to the same schools as our kids.
WE APOLOGIZED. Israel just wants it all at any cost.

United Nations gave Isreal to you. What a mistake that was!

Shalom yourself....
 
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Canaduh

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First off ... we DO have the groundwork for the same situation. We just went about it in a different way. We may have wronged them, but we didn't taunt them with our heritage - the National Grudge - We may have set aside land reserved for them - but we didn't go stealing that land (and their homes) all in the name of more settlement. We allow their lids to ride our busses and to go to the same schools as out kids. WE APOLOGIZED. Israel just wants it all at any cost.

United Nations gave Isreal to you. What a mistake that was!

Shalom yourself....

I think you will find Israel was always ours, and the arabs where just keeping it warm.
1) Do the Indian kids blow your kids up?.
2) We didn't wipe out the palestinians, we took back what was ours.

There is no comparison between Aative Americans and palestinians what so ever. Native Americans are a proud race that have worked that land for thousands of years. Even before the united nations gave back what was ours, there was 50,000+ jews in Israel.

If your talking about the west bank and gaza strip... tell the egyptians, syrians, iraqis, iranians, libyans and jordanians when they send an army 9 times the size and with the element of surprise against us, to win. Tanks where 101km from Cairo with the entire egyptian and syrian army circled when the US forced Israel to cease fire.
 

CDNBear

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First off ... we DO have the groundwork for the same situation. We just went about it in a different way.
We may have wronged them in our own illusions of superiority, but we grew wise.
We didn't taunt them with our heritage - the National Grudge.
We may have set aside land reserved for them - but we didn't go stealing that land (and their homes) all in the name of more settlement.
We welcome their kids to ride our busses and to go to the same schools as our kids.
WE APOLOGIZED. Israel just wants it all at any cost.

United Nations gave Isreal to you. What a mistake that was!

Shalom yourself....
Excuse me!!!???

We needed a permit to leave the reserves for quite sometime. We were not permitted on public transit, we were not permitted to get loans, have bank accounts, get jobs, we were not permitted to get an education (Unless of course it was by the residential school standard) and so on!!!

I think you will find Israel was always ours, and the arabs where just keeping it warm.
1) Do the Indian kids blow your kids up?.
2) We didn't wipe out the palestinians, we took back what was ours.

There is no comparison between Aative Americans and palestinians what so ever. Native Americans are a proud race that have worked that land for thousands of years. Even before the united nations gave back what was ours, there was 50,000+ jews in Israel.

If your talking about the west bank and gaza strip... tell the egyptians, syrians, iraqis, iranians, libyans and jordanians when they send an army 9 times the size and with the element of surprise against us, to win. Tanks where 101km from Cairo with the entire egyptian and syrian army circled when the US forced Israel to cease fire.
Hear, hear!!!

The support the Six Nations has thrown behind the Palestinians is misguided and just plain wrong. We should be siding with Israel, period.