Hamas attacks Israel

[Ron in Regina]

TMU law students put their names to letter endorsing terrorism
Dozens of law school students endorse all forms of "Palestinian resistance" including all forms of violence.


Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Oct 23, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

A group of law school students at Toronto Metropolitan University signed and released an open letter over the weekend condoning the Hamas terror attacks. Before it was taken down, 74 students had signed it, many making their names publicly known as endorsers of terrorism…..

….And with that, these students, who are studying to become lawyers, officers of the court, endorsed rape, torture, murder and kidnapping as an acceptable form of “Palestinian resistance.”

“Israel is not a country, it is the brand of a settler colony,” the letter states.

With this, the signers of the letter are taking part in one of the many forms of anti-Semitism that is rampant on post-secondary campuses, denying Israel’s right to exist. Israel isn’t the country the Palestinian people need to live next to in peace according to this statement, Israel is a fake country with no right to exist.

LILLEY: TMU law students put their names to letter endorsing terrorism

Students signed a letter saying they endorse all forms of resistance, dismissing concerns about brutal terror attacks carried out by Hamas.

torontosun.com

Defence Minister Bill Blair says Hamas is a terrorist organization that is a threat to the whole world and must be “eliminated.”

The defence minister also appeared unwilling to back more recent calls for a “humanitarian pause,” but says there are talks underway to get more aid into the Gaza Strip.

“I have no expectation that a terrorist organization would respect international law or any call for a ceasefire,” Blair told reporters on his way to a cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.

Canada's defence minister says Hamas a threat to world, must be 'eliminated'

Blair says Hamas must be "eliminated."

torontosun.com

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Tuesday his government supports the idea of a truce for humanitarian purposes in the Israel-Hamas war, shortly after his defence minister said he did not believe Hamas would respect a ceasefire and that the terrorist group needed to be “eliminated as a threat” to the world.

“I think there’s a lot of conversations going on now about the need for humanitarian pauses and I think that’s something that Canada supports,” he said.

Last week, nearly two dozen Liberal MPs signed a letter with NDP and Green MPs asking Ottawa to call for an “immediate ceasefire.” On Monday, Global Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly had called for a de-escalation of the war, but had stopped short of calling for a ceasefire.

“In the meantime, the international community, our usual allies, find themselves looking at Canada and saying: what’s happening out there?”

Trudeau says his government supports 'pauses' in the Israel-Hamas war, after defence minister rejects ceasefire — National Post

Bill Blair also dismissed growing calls, including within his own caucus, for a ceasefire in the war between Israel and Hamas

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Depends who you talk to I suppose.

Natives would think it's a continual thing.

But it's not the same as what goes on in Israel/West Bank/Gaza.

For the historical context comparing Apples to Oranges. In 2021, University of Toronto professor Chandni Desai published a paper in the Journal of Palestine Studies titled, “Disrupting Settler-Colonial Capitalism: Indigenous Intifadas and Resurgent Solidarity from Turtle Island to Palestine.” The article likens the Wetʼsuwetʼen land sovereignty struggle to a series of Palestinian terror campaigns. Desai, who is neither Indigenous nor Palestinian, also lectures on “anti-colonial resistance” in Israel and Canada.

In the context of differences between NA and that region? Both were lands 'owned' by the people who lived there - in NA it was the Native American, in the region of Israel, historically while the 'overlords' changed hands a lot, the area was still settled by Arabs/Muslims, some Christians and some Jews. Technically THEY owned the land, the overlords just changed.

Israelis have over 3,000 years of history on that land. The State of Israel, even with notable flaws, is one of the greatest examples of indigenous reclamation in the world. In fact, it is known that the Jews are indigenous to the lands, having been there since at least 1,000 BC, nearly two millennia before the Arab occupation of Syria and Palestine in the mid-600s AD. The Jews were there long before the Arabs and Muslims. Jerusalem is their capital and has been for 3,000 years.

And before them the Ottoman Muslims, Romans, etc, etc...

But they were all Overlords. Again, the people who lived there are the ones who truly owned the land.

So the people that “lived” there, not living there, but before them, but not too far before them, but the right amount of previously lived there, but not too much.

But I was referring to the figures of the graph, and the graph breaks it down by Jewish, Muslim/Arab and Christian. Look at who the most populace people were.

I read through the graph, from 1922-2035, for “that” time frame of the previous century & a prediction ahead for another 12 years.

Just like the French, Spanish and Brits had "claims" in NA to divvy up that land?

…& they did. Doesn’t make it right but it does make it real.

Actually if you want to go further back, well..

Well?

The origin of Palestinians and their genetic relatedness with other Mediterranean populations - PubMed

The genetic profile of Palestinians has, for the first time, been studied by using human leukocyte antigen (HLA) gene variability and haplotypes. The comparison with other Mediterranean populations by using neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses reveal that Palestinians are...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

They're the same fucking people.

Genetically more or less we’re all the same people. It’s not like a cross between the Inuit and Egyptian’s create non-viable offspring.

So guess Palestinians have a genetic and cultural link to the land JUST as valid as Israeli's.

Yep. So genetics and a cultural link aren’t alone a valid claim to land possession rights on their own. Glad that’s out of the way.

Chris Sankey: Stop comparing Palestinians to Indigenous-Canadians — National Post

Jews are indigenous to the Land of Israel. Any comparison between Palestinians and First Nations is a deliberate misconstrual of history

apple.news

Religion got the Jews kicked out of the region.

Religion got the Muslim's to stay.

Power & Politics got the Jew out of the region, & the same put them back. Religion got the Muslims to stay (not power & politics?), but that’s assuming the Muslim religion is one cohesive unified entity…

If you want to get REAL technical, the Palestinians have an unbroken tie back to the land more than the Jewish people do, since they, you know, got kicked out.

Oh, OK. So if the Jews decide not to be driven into the sea, by any and all means necessary…does the clock restart like one of those “__days without injury’s” boards?

Point being, the land did belong to Palestinians, and though those of Jewish ancestry have a claim as well, it is not "more" than the Palestinian peoples.

“Did.” For a while, and to many others, including the Jews, for a while, and the French, for a while, and the Ottomans, for a while, etc…

But circling back to World Guilt, and ignorance of the history of the region, people just assume the Jewish belief that they are the ONLY ones that belong there is the only truth.

And it's not.

I will admit that I’m probably the most ignorant one on this region of the world, with the Bible & religion being just background for me, and up until a couple of weeks ago my interest was more in YouTube archeology videos when it came to this region of the world. Getting a crash course but it’s only a couple weeks old with huge gaps

Weird question. Hamas & its core tenants, though those 30,000-50,000 (whatever) card carrying members are “Moslem” in their flavour….just like Sunni or Shite, is Hamas its own religious offshoot of Islam?

It has called on members of “the other two Abrahamic faiths”—Judaism and Christianity—to accept Islamic rule in the Middle East. “It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror,” it decreed.

The Hamas Covenant was largely crafted by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, a quadriplegic and partially blind cleric who was the founder and spiritual leader of the militant militia in Gaza.

Doctrine of Hamas

Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel. Hamas distanced itself from the longstanding Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)—an umbrella organization for disparate Palestinian...

iranprimer.usip.org

 

[petros]

Did covid make people retarded?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Depends who you talk to I suppose.

Natives would think it's a continual thing.

But it's not the same as what goes on in Israel/West Bank/Gaza.



In the context of differences between NA and that region? Both were lands 'owned' by the people who lived there - in NA it was the Native American, in the region of Israel, historically while the 'overlords' changed hands a lot, the area was still settled by Arabs/Muslims, some Christians and some Jews. Technically THEY owned the land, the overlords just changed.



And before them the Ottoman Muslims, Romans, etc, etc...

But they were all Overlords. Again, the people who lived there are the ones who truly owned the land.

But I was referring to the figures of the graph, and the graph breaks it down by Jewish, Muslim/Arab and Christian. Look at who the most populace people were.



Just like the French, Spanish and Brits had "claims" in NA to divvy up that land?



Actually if you want to go further back, well..

The origin of Palestinians and their genetic relatedness with other Mediterranean populations - PubMed

The genetic profile of Palestinians has, for the first time, been studied by using human leukocyte antigen (HLA) gene variability and haplotypes. The comparison with other Mediterranean populations by using neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses reveal that Palestinians are...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

They're the same fucking people.

So guess Palestinians have a genetic and cultural link to the land JUST as valid as Israeli's.

Religion got the Jews kicked out of the region.

Religion got the Muslim's to stay.

If you want to get REAL technical, the Palestinians have an unbroken tie back to the land more than the Jewish people do, since they, you know, got kicked out.

Point being, the land did belong to Palestinians, and though those of Jewish ancestry have a claim as well, it is not "more" than the Palestinian peoples.

But circling back to World Guilt, and ignorance of the history of the region, people just assume the Jewish belief that they are the ONLY ones that belong there is the only truth.

And it's not.

Israel - Facts, History & Conflicts | HISTORY

Early History of Israel​

Much of what scholars know about Israel’s ancient history comes from the Hebrew Bible. According to the text, Israel’s origins can be traced back to Abraham, who is considered the father of both Judaism (through his son Isaac) and Islam (through his son Ishmael).

Abraham’s descendants were thought to be enslaved by the Egyptians for hundreds of years before settling in Canaan, which is approximately the region of modern-day Israel.

The word Israel comes from Abraham’s grandson, Jacob, who was renamed “Israel” by the Hebrew God in the Bible.

King David and King Solomon​

King David ruled the region around 1000 B.C. His son, who became King Solomon, is credited with building the first holy temple in ancient Jerusalem. In about 931 B.C., the area was divided into two kingdoms: Israel in the north and Judah in the south.

Around 722 B.C., the Assyrians invaded and destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel. In 568 B.C., the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the first temple, which was replaced by a second temple in about 516 B.C.

For the next several centuries, the land of modern-day Israel was conquered and ruled by various groups, including the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Fatimids, Seljuk Turks, Crusaders, Egyptians, Mamelukes, Islamists and others.

The Balfour Declaration​

From 1517 to 1917, what is today Israel, along with much of the Middle East, was ruled by the Ottoman Empire.

But World War I dramatically altered the geopolitical landscape in the Middle East. In 1917, at the height of the war, British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour submitted a letter of intent supporting the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The British government hoped that the formal declaration—known thereafter as the Balfour Declaration—would encourage support for the Allies in World War I.

When World War I ended in 1918 with an Allied victory, the 400-year Ottoman Empire rule ended, and Great Britain took control over what became known as Palestine (modern-day Israel, Palestine and Jordan).

The Balfour Declaration and the British mandate over Palestine were approved by the League of Nations in 1922. Arabs vehemently opposed the Balfour Declaration, concerned that a Jewish homeland would mean the subjugation of Arab Palestinians.

The British controlled Palestine until Israel, in the years following the end of World War II, became an independent state in 1947. click the link for more

Islam - Five Pillars, Nation of Islam & Definition | HISTORY

Islam is the second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, with about 1.8 billion Muslims worldwide. As one of the three Abrahamic religions—the others being Judaism and Christianity—it too is a monotheistic faith that worships one god, called Allah.

The word Islam means “submission” or “surrender,” as its faithful surrender to the will of Allah. Although its roots go back further in time, scholars typically date the creation of Islam to the 7th century, making it the youngest of the major world religions. Islam started in Mecca, in modern-day Saudi Arabia, during the time of the prophet Muhammad. Today, the faith is spreading rapidly throughout the world. Widely practiced in the Middle East and North Africa, it is also has many adherents in South Asia—Indonesia, in fact, has the largest number of followers of the Islamic faith. Click the link for more

Isn't it interesting that the Jewish nation existed 8000 years before the Islam religion where the conflict in the region stems from?

 

[Serryah]

For the historical context comparing Apples to Oranges. In 2021, University of Toronto professor Chandni Desai published a paper in the Journal of Palestine Studies titled, “Disrupting Settler-Colonial Capitalism: Indigenous Intifadas and Resurgent Solidarity from Turtle Island to Palestine.” The article likens the Wetʼsuwetʼen land sovereignty struggle to a series of Palestinian terror campaigns. Desai, who is neither Indigenous nor Palestinian, also lectures on “anti-colonial resistance” in Israel and Canada.

Okay. It's a 'theme' others put out there. Like I said though, it's the same but different in its own way.

Israelis have

Had. It's no different than other nations who have 'history' on that land, including Palestinians.

over 3,000 years of history on that land. The State of Israel, even with notable flaws, is one of the greatest examples of indigenous reclamation in the world.

LOL!

No.

Why isn't it? Because it was not 'reclamation'.

It was "We don't want these fuckers in OUR nation, let's give them this one and oh hey if it fulfills some fucked up prophecy of them returning to their land which brings back OUR God, bonus!"

As an aside, apparently Britain promised the "Palestinians" (Arabs) a nation after WWI ended too.

"In 1917, in order to win Jewish support for Britain's First World War effort, the British Balfour Declaration promised the establishment of a Jewish national home in Ottoman-controlled Palestine.

However, the British had also promised Arab nationalists that a united Arab country, covering most of the Arab Middle East, would result if the Ottoman Turks were defeated."
Oops.

British idiocy fails again.

The British Army in Palestine | National Army Museum

In the 1940s, the British Army found itself stuck in the middle of a growing conflict between Arabs and Jews in Palestine. The momentous events that followed led to the creation of the State of Israel.

www.nam.ac.uk

In fact, it is known that the Jews are indigenous to the lands, having been there since at least 1,000 BC,

Same with Palestinians because, again, same people.

nearly two millennia before the Arab occupation of Syria and Palestine in the mid-600s AD.

Before Syria and Palestine, it was called something else.

Canaan.

Same with the Palestinians. They weren't ALWAYS Palestinians.

The Jews were there long before the Arabs and Muslims. Jerusalem is their capital and has been for 3,000 years.

Muslim is a religious term and they popped up only 'recently' as a religion.

Just what is Arab? Well, "Arabic is a Semitic language that belongs to the Afroasiatic language family."

Jews are Arabs.

Palestinians are Arabs.

Everyone in that region is/was an Arab.

So the people that “lived” there, not living there, but before them, but not too far before them, but the right amount of previously lived there, but not too much.

No. That's not what that meant.

I read through the graph, from 1922-2035, for “that” time frame of the previous century & a prediction ahead for another 12 years.

So you missed the point?

The point being - Jews did NOT always "own" that land, the majority there were "Palestinians". Jews part of the population.

…& they did. Doesn’t make it right but it does make it real.
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You said it "doesn't make it right".

Yes, it's real, but it's not "Right".

Just like it wasn't the "Right" of the Brits and others to divvy up the region of what is now Israel and Palestine.

The point being, these people did NOT have a claim to the land, not really.

Well?

Genetically more or less we’re all the same people. It’s not like a cross between the Inuit and Egyptian’s create non-viable offspring.

... oi. That's true. But again, not the point.

Yep. So genetics and a cultural link aren’t alone a valid claim to land possession rights on their own. Glad that’s out of the way.

Chris Sankey: Stop comparing Palestinians to Indigenous-Canadians — National Post

Jews are indigenous to the Land of Israel. Any comparison between Palestinians and First Nations is a deliberate misconstrual of history

apple.news

Okay, so in that case you agree the Jewish people DON'T have an automatic right to the region. Glad that's out of the way.

Power & Politics got the Jew out of the region, & the same put them back.

True.

Religion got the Muslims to stay (not power & politics?),

All the above, but mostly religion, because the Jews were the 'wrong' religion.

but that’s assuming the Muslim religion is one cohesive unified entity…

It's not; no religion is.

Oh, OK. So if the Jews decide not to be driven into the sea, by any and all means necessary…does the clock restart like one of those “__days without injury’s” boards?

Okay, so if the Palestinians decide not to be killed as Israel tends so often to do even at peaceful events, does the clock restart like one of those "__days without injury's" boards?

“Did.” For a while, and to many others, including the Jews, for a while, and the French, for a while, and the Ottomans, for a while, etc…\

Did and does. They never gave up the land and it was "Promised" to them by Britain too.

I will admit that I’m probably the most ignorant one on this region of the world, with the Bible & religion being just background for me, and up until a couple of weeks ago my interest was more in YouTube archeology videos when it came to this region of the world. Getting a crash course but it’s only a couple weeks old with huge gaps

Weird question. Hamas & its core tenants, though those 30,000-50,000 (whatever) card carrying members are “Moslem” in their flavour….just like Sunni or Shite, is Hamas its own religious offshoot of Islam?

In a nut shell - yes.

It has called on members of “the other two Abrahamic faiths”—Judaism and Christianity—to accept Islamic rule in the Middle East.

Traditionally that's a belief of most Muslims, because they view Mohammed as the last Prophet of God and thus what was told to him should be just as obeyed as all the other prophets, if not moreso. Islam is like Christianity in that way, minus a few hundred years of progress.

“It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror,” it decreed.

Typical threats from religious types.

You see it in the US right now actually, but replace the "Sovereignty of Islam" to "Christianity".

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The Hamas Covenant was largely crafted by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, a quadriplegic and partially blind cleric who was the founder and spiritual leader of the militant militia in Gaza.

Doctrine of Hamas

Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel. Hamas distanced itself from the longstanding Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)—an umbrella organization for disparate Palestinian...

iranprimer.usip.org

Terrorist organizations, and cults, like Hamas tend to have their own Version of Religion for their people.

Have you seen what some of the shit of the Cult of Trump have said lately?

 

[Serryah]

Israel - Facts, History & Conflicts | HISTORY

Early History of Israel​

Much of what scholars know about Israel’s ancient history comes from the Hebrew Bible.

And considering it's a Religious text of one people, not a historical document in full...

It's got some historical truths in it, some not.

According to the text, Israel’s origins can be traced back to Abraham, who is considered the father of both Judaism (through his son Isaac) and Islam (through his son Ishmael).

Abraham’s descendants were thought to be enslaved by the Egyptians for hundreds of years before settling in Canaan, which is approximately the region of modern-day Israel.

The word Israel comes from Abraham’s grandson, Jacob, who was renamed “Israel” by the Hebrew God in the Bible.

I'd rather go by the archaeology of the region, not Religious Faith.

King David and King Solomon​

King David ruled the region around 1000 B.C. His son, who became King Solomon, is credited with building the first holy temple in ancient Jerusalem. In about 931 B.C., the area was divided into two kingdoms: Israel in the north and Judah in the south.

David - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So... yeah, the whole "King David" may not be a real deal, just religious fantasy, like King Arthur.

Around 722 B.C., the Assyrians invaded and destroyed the northern kingdom of Israel. In 568 B.C., the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem and destroyed the first temple, which was replaced by a second temple in about 516 B.C.

Those are historically accurate, yes.

For the next several centuries, the land of modern-day Israel was conquered and ruled by various groups, including the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Fatimids, Seljuk Turks, Crusaders, Egyptians, Mamelukes, Islamists and others.

True.

The Balfour Declaration​

From 1517 to 1917, what is today Israel, along with much of the Middle East, was ruled by the Ottoman Empire.

But World War I dramatically altered the geopolitical landscape in the Middle East. In 1917, at the height of the war, British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour submitted a letter of intent supporting the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The British government hoped that the formal declaration—known thereafter as the Balfour Declaration—would encourage support for the Allies in World War I.

They also promised an Arab nation to the Arabs, so...

"However, the British had also promised Arab nationalists that a united Arab country, covering most of the Arab Middle East, would result if the Ottoman Turks were defeated."

The British Army in Palestine | National Army Museum

In the 1940s, the British Army found itself stuck in the middle of a growing conflict between Arabs and Jews in Palestine. The momentous events that followed led to the creation of the State of Israel.

www.nam.ac.uk

When World War I ended in 1918 with an Allied victory, the 400-year Ottoman Empire rule ended, and Great Britain took control over what became known as Palestine (modern-day Israel, Palestine and Jordan).

The Balfour Declaration and the British mandate over Palestine were approved by the League of Nations in 1922. Arabs vehemently opposed the Balfour Declaration, concerned that a Jewish homeland would mean the subjugation of Arab Palestinians.

And breaking the word of the British given to them...

The British controlled Palestine until Israel, in the years following the end of World War II, became an independent state in 1947. click the link for more

Islam - Five Pillars, Nation of Islam & Definition | HISTORY

Islam is the second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, with about 1.8 billion Muslims worldwide. As one of the three Abrahamic religions—the others being Judaism and Christianity—it too is a monotheistic faith that worships one god, called Allah.

Allah is "God" in Arabic.

It's the same God found in Judaism and Christianity.

The word Islam means “submission” or “surrender,” as its faithful surrender to the will of Allah. Although its roots go back further in time, scholars typically date the creation of Islam to the 7th century, making it the youngest of the major world religions. Islam started in Mecca, in modern-day Saudi Arabia, during the time of the prophet Muhammad. Today, the faith is spreading rapidly throughout the world. Widely practiced in the Middle East and North Africa, it is also has many adherents in South Asia—Indonesia, in fact, has the largest number of followers of the Islamic faith. Click the link for more

All true.

Isn't it interesting that the Jewish nation existed 8000 years before the Islam religion where the conflict in the region stems from?

Not really.

Because they weren't just "Jewish".

But you are right too; the conflict is based on differences of faith. And "who historically belongs to the region more".

And promises made, and broken.

And egoism in both religions.

There's a LOT of reasons for the conflict.

 

[Twin_Moose]

And considering it's a Religious text of one people, not a historical document in full...

It's got some historical truths in it, some not.



I'd rather go by the archaeology of the region, not Religious Faith.

David - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So... yeah, the whole "King David" may not be a real deal, just religious fantasy, like King Arthur.



Those are historically accurate, yes.



True.



They also promised an Arab nation to the Arabs, so...

"However, the British had also promised Arab nationalists that a united Arab country, covering most of the Arab Middle East, would result if the Ottoman Turks were defeated."

The British Army in Palestine | National Army Museum

In the 1940s, the British Army found itself stuck in the middle of a growing conflict between Arabs and Jews in Palestine. The momentous events that followed led to the creation of the State of Israel.

www.nam.ac.uk

And breaking the word of the British given to them...



Allah is "God" in Arabic.

It's the same God found in Judaism and Christianity.



All true.



Not really.

Because they weren't just "Jewish".

But you are right too; the conflict is based on differences of faith. And "who historically belongs to the region more".

And promises made, and broken.

And egoism in both religions.

There's a LOT of reasons for the conflict.

I'm so relieved that you fact checked the History website with Wikipedia thank you for straightening out this historic inaccuracy

 

[Serryah]

I'm so relieved that you fact checked the History website with Wikipedia thank you for straightening out this historic inaccuracy

It wasn't fact checking, it was adding more than what you posted.

The inaccuracy was on your end, not the history site.

 

[spaminator]

CTV news writer joins others in calling for end of Israeli state

Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Oct 24, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read
Yara Jamal, listed on CTVs website as a writer and production assistant, was also at a Pro-Palestine rally in Halifax Sunday and quoted saying there is no room for a "Zionist" state -- supplied photo
Yara Jamal, listed on CTVs website as a writer and production assistant, was also at a Pro-Palestine rally in Halifax Sunday and quoted saying there is no room for a "Zionist" state -- supplied photo
Almost as concerning as the massacre of innocent Jews on Oct. 7 is the blatant anti-Semitism that has reared its ugly head every day since.


Everywhere you turn, there are people working in Canadian institutions who are shown to be anti-Israel. It should come as no surprise that the latest example came from the ranks of one of Canada’s largest news networks, CTV.


But even though the past 2 1/2 weeks have seen nasty hate directed toward the Jewish state from a Toronto Police officer, a community housing officer, an Air Canada pilot, an MPP and a labour union leader, it still was a surprise.

The theme is the same. Israel has no right to exist, let alone defend itself from the largest attack ever on its people.



Now, if the person listed on the CTV News Altantic website had been quoted as saying “Muslims can continue to exist, the Islamic ideology cannot,” what do you think the end result would be?

Cancellation! Immediately.

But Yara Jamal, who on the CTV web page is listed as a writer and production assistant “orginally from Palestine,” did not direct her vitriol toward Muslims. SaltWire Network quoted her as saying “Jews can continue to exist, the Zionist ideology cannot,” while Jamal was at a pro-Palestinian protest at the Citadel in Halifax on Sunday.

According to SaltWire Network, Jamal explained that by “Zionist ideology,” she meant as clarification that “the state, no, cannot exist.”

A CTV News spokesperson said the outlet is looking into what transpired.


“A key principle at CTV News is ensuring that our coverage is always balanced, factual, accurate and fair while at the same time strictly adheres to both the RTDNA Canada and Canadian Association of Broadcasters’ Code of Ethics,” said the spokesperson. “As such, we are currently looking into this matter.”



When an 11-year-old Muslim girl in 2018 claimed a man snuck up on her and cut off her hijab with “scissors,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dove in as fast as he did on the Gaza hospital bombing to strongly denounce it. In the end, the girl had made the whole thing up.

Just as the Gaza hospital explosion was a result of a Hamas misfire, the backing of lies can also be considered misfires.

However, the rules of the politically correct game don’t swing both ways.

Ask Don Cherry about that. He was fired for saying “you people” in his complaint that some of those who came here “like our milk and honey” and the least they could do is buy a poppy in honour of the fallen troops that provided a great, free country. Grapes, after 40 years of incredible service and patriotism, was unfairly, unceremoniously fired and offered zero empathy or respect.


For example, if Jamal, who was also part of the story as a protester, had it her way, she’d allow Jewish people to live, but not in an Israeli state.

That’s way worse than anything Grapes said.



Jamal doesn’t elaborate on just what would happen to Israeli Jews, but it is clear that under her rules, they would not have a Jewish state.

I tried all day Tuesday to reach her for comment, context, and clarification. She did not respond as of deadline.



Like Mayor Olivia Chow’s tardiness when it came to defending Cafe Landwer, which has Jewish roots, from intimidation or Trudeau’s snail-like response to finally admit it was Hamas that caused the explosion near the Gaza hospital, the damage is done.

But there are many who are getting this right, too. The large number of people who went to support Cafe Landwer shows that.


Those in the anti-Israel camp are disgustingly prepared to overlook the Oct. 7 atrocities committed by Hamas and aggressively push a narrative of moral equivalency, highlighting past grievances and ignoring the graves of the 1,400 innocent Jews cruelly massacred and the more than 200 hostages still being held.

All the while, some are pushing for a ceasefire, which is designed to prevent Israel from defending itself by clearing the Hamas terrorists out of Gaza once and for all.

There’s certainly nothing wrong with asking Israel to try to prevent civilians from being killed when conducting their military operations, but there is plenty wrong with siding with Hamas killers, whose barbarism resulted in the highest number of Jews slain in a single day since the Holocaust.

But when the anti-Zionist message keeps popping up from our pilots, professors, public servants, law enforcement and now those presenting the news, it’s actually not a surprise.

Who will be next to expose themselves as being anti-Israel?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716912839120896169

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716853050629927404

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716817984361247108

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1716937254999097695

WARMINGTON: CTV news writer joins others in calling for end of Israeli state

Almost as concerning as the massacre of innocent Jews on Oct. 7 is the blatant anti-Semitism that has reared its ugly head every day since.

torontosun.com

 

[spaminator]

London MP speaks out after office vandalized during pro-Palestinian rally
London police are investigating after a Liberal MP says his downtown office was vandalized during a pro-Palestinian protest over the weekend.

Author of the articleale Carruthers
Published Oct 23, 2023 • Last updated 2 days ago • 2 minute read
The downtown London office of Liberal MP Peter Fragiskatos was vandalized with ketchup on Sunday Oct. 22, 2023, during a pro-Palestinian rally. (Submitted photo)
The downtown London office of Liberal MP Peter Fragiskatos was vandalized with ketchup on Sunday Oct. 22, 2023, during a pro-Palestinian rally. (Submitted photo)
London police are investigating after a Liberal MP says his downtown office was vandalized during a pro-Palestinian protest over the weekend.


Peter Fragiskatos, who represents London North Centre, says the exterior of his office at 231 Hyman St. was sprayed with ketchup on Sunday as hundreds of demonstrators gathered outside.

“I, of course, recognize and respect the right to free expression and that includes the right to protest,” he said Monday. “But vandalizing a constituency office is not free expression.”

The three-term MP believes his office was targeted because of the Liberal Party’s position on the conflict between Israel and Hamas, the militant group that governs the Gaza Strip.

There have been three large pro-Palestinian rallies in London since Hamas launched an Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel that killed more than 1,400 people, most of them civilians. Israel responded with air strikes on Gaza, laying siege to the densely populated territory, where more than 5,000 people, many of them children, have died and hundreds of thousands have been displaced, according to the latest figures.


Fragiskatos, who has served on the foreign affairs and international development and the public safety and national security committees, issued a statement on the conflict last week, denouncing Hamas for targeting civilians and condemning rallies around the world celebrating the violence. He also backed Israel’s right to defend itself while calling on the Israeli government to respect international law to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.

“Many members of the community have agreed, but others have disagreed, and that’s democracy,” Fragiskatos said. “In democracy I think we always have to find a way to be disagreeable in a reasonable way.”




Critics say the Canadian government should call for an immediate ceasefire, a demand that was echoed at Sunday’s rally on the outskirts of Victoria Park, where hundreds of demonstrators gathered at 1 p.m. to listen to speeches before marching through downtown streets.

Surveillance footage captured the vandalism at Fragiskatos’s office around 3 p.m. while hundreds of protestors looked on. Police monitoring the gathering stepped in.

“They protected the office and found a way to defuse the situation,” Fragiskatos said of police.

Fragiskatos, a former political science professor, acknowledged people may dismiss the incident as insignificant because of the condiment involved.

“It’s not the material that was used,” he said. “Is it a brick next time? Do I have to worry about my own home? Do staff members have to worry about their safety at their place of work?”


London police are investigating the incident, a police spokesperson said Monday.

The Canadian Palestinian Social Association, an organization that promoted the rally, didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment Monday. The group has issued warnings prior to previous demonstrations that there’d be no tolerance for any physical violence or verbal abuse at the gatherings.

Asked whether he’d like to see criminal charges laid in the case, Fragiskatos said he has been grappling with the question.

“It’s still something I’m considering,” he said.

dcarruthers@postmedia.com

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London MP speaks out after office vandalized during pro-Palestinian rally

London police are investigating the spraying of ketchup on the front door of a Liberal MP's office during a pro-Palestinian protest

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[spaminator]

As thousands show up to fight, Netanyahu Jr. chills out in Miami

Author of the article:Brad Hunter
Published Oct 24, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read
As thousands of Israeli reservists from around the world return to fight, Yair Netanyahu, the son the PM, is chilling in Miami.
As thousands of Israeli reservists from around the world return to fight, Yair Netanyahu, the son the PM, is chilling in Miami.
Gaza or Miami apparently wasn’t a hard choice for the son of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.


Yair Netanyahu is opting to let others do the fighting while he enjoys the sun and sand of South Florida.


According to The Times of London, the 32-year-old is getting lambasted by fellow reservists for staying out of harm’s way. Israel has called up 360,000 reservists since the war with Hamas kicked off on Oct. 7.

Unlike thousands of others who have returned to fight, Yair is keeping his powder dry. And it’s not going over well with his fellow reservists.


“Yair is enjoying his life at Miami Beach while I’m on the front lines,” one soldier, a volunteer serving on Israel’s northern front, told The Times. “It’s us who are leaving our work, our families, our kids, to protect our families back home and the country, not the people who are responsible for this situation.”


He added: “Our brothers, our fathers, sons, are all going to the front line, but Yair is still not here. It does not help build trust in the leadership of the country.”

The scion has been in Florida since last April when his father told him to stop posting inflammatory posts on social media. Yair was sued multiple times for defamation after airing his musings.


Instead, he’s been seen packing care packages for IDF soldiers fighting in the Holy Land.

Another soldier serving on the border with Gaza told the British newspaper: “I’ve flown back from the States where I have a job, a life, my family. There is no way I can stay there and abandon my country, my people, at this critical time. Where is the prime minister’s son? Why isn’t he in Israel?”


He added: “It is the most uniting moment for us as Israelis in our recent history and every single one of us should be here right now, including the prime minister’s son.”

WHERE IS THAT DAMNED SON OF MINE?
For Americans who came of age during the Vietnam War, Netanyahu Jr. safely ensconced in Miami is an eerie reminder that the sons of the wealthy and powerful were able to wiggle out of serving.

According to the Daily Mail, Yair studied theatre and did his compulsory military service as a spokesman for the IDF. In Israel, service is compulsory when they turn 18. Men are required to serve 32 months while women are required to serve two years.

Most are in the reserves until they are 40 and can be called up in a national emergency.


But not Yair who hosts a right-wing podcast from the safety of Miami. Two days before the Hamas terror attack, it was revealed that he wanted to stay in the U.S. permanently but feared the Biden administration would not grease the wheels.

Earlier on his podcast, Yair came under fire by calling hundreds of thousands of Israeli protesters outraged at changes to that country’s supreme court “terrorists”. He was also forced to cough up $40,000 to a woman he claimed was having an affair with one of his dad’s political rivals.

Earlier in 2023, a judge ordered him to pay an Israeli politician $18,000. Yair called the woman “ugly”.

Eight years ago he came under fire for dating a Norwegian communications expert named Sandra Leikanger, who is not Jewish. He moved on to Israeli-Danish model Lee Levi.

bhunter@postmedia.com

@HunterTOSun

BIBI'S BOY: As thousands show up to fight, Netanyahu Jr. chills out in Miami

Gaza or Miami apparently wasn't a hard choice for the son of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

torontosun.com

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

We got an operation going on
But it don't need to trouble me and you
The country boys'll do the fighting
Now that fighting's all a country boy can do.
--James McMurtry, Operation Never Mind

 

[Ron in Regina]

Iran's Foreign Minster Hossein Amirabdollahian warned at the United Nations on Thursday that if Israel's retaliation against Palestinian militants Hamas in the Gaza Strip doesn't end then the United States will "not be spared from this fire."

Nothing like threatening America, in America…in New York City, where 9/11 happened…

Hamas has told Iran that it was ready to release civilian hostages, adding that the world should push for the release of 6,000 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, Amirabdollahian said.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran stands ready to play its part in this very important humanitarian endeavor, along with Qatar and Turkey. Naturally, the release of the 6,000 Palestinian prisoners is another necessity and responsibility of the global community," he said.

At UN, Iran warns US will 'not be spared' if war in Gaza continues — Reuters

Iran's Foreign Minster Hossein Amirabdollahian warned at the United Nations on Thursday that if Israel's retaliation against Palestinian militants Hamas in the Gaza Strip doesn't end then the United States will "not be spared from this fire."

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Oct 16 (Reuters) - A top Hamas leader said on Monday the group "has what it needs" to free all Palestinians in Israel's jails, indicating the militant group may try to use the Israelis it kidnapped as bargaining chips to secure the release of Palestinian prisoners.

Soon after Hamas official Khaled Meshaal made the remarks on the captives, who include Israelis and non-Israelis kidnapped by Hamas on Oct. 7, the group's armed wing separately said the non-Israelis were "guests" who would be released "when circumstances allow".

At UN, Iran warns US will 'not be spared' if war in Gaza continues — Reuters

Iran's Foreign Minster Hossein Amirabdollahian warned at the United Nations on Thursday that if Israel's retaliation against Palestinian militants Hamas in the Gaza Strip doesn't end then the United States will "not be spared from this fire."

apple.news

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Oh, bring it! PLEASE bring it!

We've been waiting for an excuse since '79.

 

[Taxslave2]

Did covid make people retarded?

Nope. It just outed most of them.

 

[Taxslave2]

CTV news writer joins others in calling for end of Israeli state

Author of the article:Joe Warmington
Published Oct 24, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read
Yara Jamal, listed on CTVs website as a writer and production assistant, was also at a Pro-Palestine rally in Halifax Sunday and quoted saying there is no room for a "Zionist" state -- supplied photo
Yara Jamal, listed on CTVs website as a writer and production assistant, was also at a Pro-Palestine rally in Halifax Sunday and quoted saying there is no room for a "Zionist" state -- supplied photo
Almost as concerning as the massacre of innocent Jews on Oct. 7 is the blatant anti-Semitism that has reared its ugly head every day since.


Everywhere you turn, there are people working in Canadian institutions who are shown to be anti-Israel. It should come as no surprise that the latest example came from the ranks of one of Canada’s largest news networks, CTV.


But even though the past 2 1/2 weeks have seen nasty hate directed toward the Jewish state from a Toronto Police officer, a community housing officer, an Air Canada pilot, an MPP and a labour union leader, it still was a surprise.

The theme is the same. Israel has no right to exist, let alone defend itself from the largest attack ever on its people.



Now, if the person listed on the CTV News Altantic website had been quoted as saying “Muslims can continue to exist, the Islamic ideology cannot,” what do you think the end result would be?

Cancellation! Immediately.

But Yara Jamal, who on the CTV web page is listed as a writer and production assistant “orginally from Palestine,” did not direct her vitriol toward Muslims. SaltWire Network quoted her as saying “Jews can continue to exist, the Zionist ideology cannot,” while Jamal was at a pro-Palestinian protest at the Citadel in Halifax on Sunday.

According to SaltWire Network, Jamal explained that by “Zionist ideology,” she meant as clarification that “the state, no, cannot exist.”

A CTV News spokesperson said the outlet is looking into what transpired.


“A key principle at CTV News is ensuring that our coverage is always balanced, factual, accurate and fair while at the same time strictly adheres to both the RTDNA Canada and Canadian Association of Broadcasters’ Code of Ethics,” said the spokesperson. “As such, we are currently looking into this matter.”



When an 11-year-old Muslim girl in 2018 claimed a man snuck up on her and cut off her hijab with “scissors,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dove in as fast as he did on the Gaza hospital bombing to strongly denounce it. In the end, the girl had made the whole thing up.

Just as the Gaza hospital explosion was a result of a Hamas misfire, the backing of lies can also be considered misfires.

However, the rules of the politically correct game don’t swing both ways.

Ask Don Cherry about that. He was fired for saying “you people” in his complaint that some of those who came here “like our milk and honey” and the least they could do is buy a poppy in honour of the fallen troops that provided a great, free country. Grapes, after 40 years of incredible service and patriotism, was unfairly, unceremoniously fired and offered zero empathy or respect.


For example, if Jamal, who was also part of the story as a protester, had it her way, she’d allow Jewish people to live, but not in an Israeli state.

That’s way worse than anything Grapes said.



Jamal doesn’t elaborate on just what would happen to Israeli Jews, but it is clear that under her rules, they would not have a Jewish state.

I tried all day Tuesday to reach her for comment, context, and clarification. She did not respond as of deadline.



Like Mayor Olivia Chow’s tardiness when it came to defending Cafe Landwer, which has Jewish roots, from intimidation or Trudeau’s snail-like response to finally admit it was Hamas that caused the explosion near the Gaza hospital, the damage is done.

But there are many who are getting this right, too. The large number of people who went to support Cafe Landwer shows that.


Those in the anti-Israel camp are disgustingly prepared to overlook the Oct. 7 atrocities committed by Hamas and aggressively push a narrative of moral equivalency, highlighting past grievances and ignoring the graves of the 1,400 innocent Jews cruelly massacred and the more than 200 hostages still being held.

All the while, some are pushing for a ceasefire, which is designed to prevent Israel from defending itself by clearing the Hamas terrorists out of Gaza once and for all.

There’s certainly nothing wrong with asking Israel to try to prevent civilians from being killed when conducting their military operations, but there is plenty wrong with siding with Hamas killers, whose barbarism resulted in the highest number of Jews slain in a single day since the Holocaust.

But when the anti-Zionist message keeps popping up from our pilots, professors, public servants, law enforcement and now those presenting the news, it’s actually not a surprise.

Who will be next to expose themselves as being anti-Israel?
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WARMINGTON: CTV news writer joins others in calling for end of Israeli state

Almost as concerning as the massacre of innocent Jews on Oct. 7 is the blatant anti-Semitism that has reared its ugly head every day since.

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Another one due for immediate deportation.

 

[Taxslave2]

Critics say the Canadian government should call for an immediate ceasefire, a demand that was echoed at Sunday’s rally on the outskirts of Victoria Park, where hundreds of demonstrators gathered at 1 p.m. to listen to speeches before marching through downtown streets.

Do they really think Hamas would honour a ceasefire? Or is it just a ploy to resupply the terrorists?

 

[Serryah]

Do they really think Hamas would honour a ceasefire? Or is it just a ploy to resupply the terrorists?

Do they really think Israel will honour a ceasefire? Or is it just a ploy to make themselves look better than Hamas?

 

[Ron in Regina]

The Hamas tunnel city beneath Gaza - a hidden frontline for Israel — Reuters

What lies in wait for Israeli ground troops in Gaza, security sources say, is a Hamas tunnel network hundreds of kilometres long and up to 80 metres deep, described by one freed hostage as "a spider's web" and by one expert as the "Viet Cong times 10".

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What if a ‘sea-water flood-bomb’ awaits IDF in Gaza? - The American Bazaar

Pardon me, but your column of today puts on the boots of a Hamas master-strategist.

www.americanbazaaronline.com

Or an offensive tactic? The Med is right there, more or less.

JERUSALEM/LONDON, Oct 26 (Reuters) - What lies in wait for Israeli ground troops in Gaza, security sources say, is a Hamas tunnel network hundreds of kilometres long and up to 80 metres deep, described by one freed hostage as "a spider's web" and by one expert as the "Viet Cong times 10".

The United States believes Israel's special forces will face an unprecedented challenge having to battle Hamas militants while trying to avoid killing hostages held below ground, a U.S. official said.

U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin noted that Iraq's nine-month-long battle to retake the city of Mosul from Islamic State might prove to have been easier than what awaits the Israelis - likely to be "a lot of IEDs (improvised explosive devices), a lot of booby traps, and just a really grinding activity".

The Hamas tunnel city beneath Gaza - a hidden frontline for Israel

What lies in wait for Israeli ground troops in Gaza, security sources say, is a Hamas tunnel network hundreds of kilometres long and up to 80 metres deep, described by one freed hostage as "a spider's web" and by one expert as the "Viet Cong times 10".

www.reuters.com

 

[Ron in Regina]

Do they really think Israel will honour a ceasefire? Or is it just a ploy to make themselves look better than Hamas?

The world has expectations of Israel’s humanity and condemnation if it doesn’t meet or exceed those expectations, but little of Hamas because…just because.

Oh, and Israel’s (& Palestinian’s) neighbours? “We stand in solidarity with Gaza, but we don’t want them.”

Isn’t Jordan formed out of a chunk of Palestinian land to start with? Jordan occupied and subsequently annexed the portion of Mandatory Palestine during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War that became known as the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Bad Jordan! Bad! Get the spray bottle! Bad Jordan! pssssssttt!!

Jordanian annexation of the West Bank - Wikipedia

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[petros]

Israel is scared shitless of Hezbollah.