Israel’s condemning innocents. Israel is behaving like them.
Because they are.
Maybe it’s just the way I’m perceiving this, but you’re condemning Israel here, but not Hamas?
Oh I FULLY blame Hamas for this.
I have, and will continue to.
But unlike a lot of people, I also recognize that barbarism against barbarism does nothing in the long run.
That's why I say, and keep saying, in the end, both sides just need to explode themselves, wipe them all off the face of the earth. Be fucking done with it.
What I WON'T do is continually deny that Israel has as much to do with this as Hamas does. Hamas was more brutal this time, yes. But that doesn't excuse Israel's own brutality.
Initially you were, but now they get a pass?
No. But since you are so pro-Israel that they can do no wrong in this, even when they have, and so many seem to think Hamas = all Palestinians... yeah, I'm gonna throw back counters even if Hamas is just as batshit insane and deserves NO defending what so ever. Because I'm not defending or excusing HAMAS, rather the Joe Palestinian who in the end is DEAD because of this.
They don’t have to leave Gaza, but they’d be Felony Stupid to not heed the warning and move a few miles inside Gaza still from Northern Gaza to Southern Gaza. That’s what I’ve been trying to say.
Then I guess everyone in and out of Gaza, even experts, are felony stupid, and you're the only smart one.
Which is irrelevant to movement inside Gaza. Not trying to be a Dick, but nobody has to enter Egypt to get from Northern Gaza to Southern Gaza.
No, but do you honestly think it's going to stick to Northern Gaza? Really?
Through what? What’s it? If “it” is the Egyptian border, nobody would have gotten through that anyway, because Egypt doesn’t want them to. Egypt was willing to send aid into a siege (look up the definition of siege) to keep Gaza’s people in…’cuz they don’t want what would come out with them.
I’ll look up the definition of “siege” here:
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Nobody in, nobody out, no supplies in, until the hostages are released. Not my rules. I’m not putting Gaza under “siege” with the above condition, but I understand the meaning of the word, so I can follow the program.
No, you're not.
Israel is.
And you think it's okay. "Not my rules".
That's an excuse and if it were other people than Palestinians, the world would be throwing their shit.
"Not my rules" Yeah? Reverse it, throw Israeli's/Jews into Gaza, have Palestine/Arabs keeping them under siege "until hostages are released". Would you be just as "oh well" about it? Honestly? Truthfully?
Because I wouldn't be. I'd be just as pissed at the unfairness of it. The inhumanity of it.
Israel isn’t stopping movement inside Gaza, but from Gaza into Israel.
Well, if they're dead they aren't moving.
With a “siege”, they’re also stopping support from entering Gaza from anywhere. That’s the definition.
Uh huh, and you think that does... what exactly? Sure, stops support of Hamas... but what OTHER "support" does it stop?
Not leave, move. A few miles, from North to South….in Gaza. You said it yourself, Hamas’s Family are the Gaza citizens.
And Experts. Who also know this. Say it's near impossible.
I’m in logistics, but not Terrorism
Then if you're into logistics, why aren't you over there proving you know more than other logistical experts?
The orders directing some 1 million Palestinians to flee have sparked panic among civilians and aid workers already struggling under airstrikes and a total blackout.
time.com
"The UN and aid groups have said such a rapid exodus would cause untold human suffering, especially for hospitalized patients, older adults and others unable to relocate."
So guess fuck those people, right? They deserve to die, right?
""What we know is that hundreds of thousands of people have fled. And that one million people have been displaced in total in one week," she said."
So guess 1 million have been displaced - in a WEEK.
The only benefit of this warning is that maybe those that could leave, did already.
Palestinians are struggling to figure out what to do in the face of Israel's demand that they leave northern Gaza ahead of an expected Israeli invasion.
apnews.com
"Aid groups appealed to the international community to stop what they denounced as a
possible war crime of forcible population transfer."
So war crimes are okay, so long as Israel does them, right?
"
In understaffed and poorly supplied
hospitals, Palestinian doctors said they felt they had no choice but to stay put. There was no way to evacuate Shifa, Gaza’s biggest hospital, its general director Mohammad Abu Selim said. Even though the hospital was in chaos — its electricity dwindling under an Israeli siege, its beds overwhelmed, its morgue overflowing — Abu Selim said there was simply no other safe place in Gaza to put 600 patients, many of them in serious condition from the attacks.
“To ask us to evacuate is ridiculous, it’s impossible,” Abu Selim said.""
Again, fuck those that can't leave, right?
"When asked about how civilians would be able to evacuate to safety even as heavy bombardment persisted, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, an Israeli military spokesman, told reporters: “We will try to make sure that it will happen.”
Despite the danger, some stubbornly refused to leave their homes. They watched the convoys pass, remembering previous tides of Palestinian refugees who fled other wars only to never be able to return home. Some Palestinians point back to what they call
the Nakba, or “catastrophe,” of Israel’s creation in 1948, when some 700,000 fled or were driven from their homes in what is now Israel. Gaza’s Hamas rulers have also urged people not to flee, describing Israel’s order as “psychological warfare” to break their solidarity.
“This is the Nakba, all of our traumas, all over again,” said activist Yasser Hasouneh, in Gaza City. “We will not be intimidated.”"
Ignoring what Hamas says, because Hamas will say anything, the actual people don't trust Israel because Israel tends to break its word.
In the end, those that could leave, did or have.
And Israel commits war crimes and gets away with it because "well we gave them warning" and continued world guilt over "oh we can't hold Israel to account for what it does because Anti-Semitism/WWII"
