Since you're a lawyer, you don't have good view of them do you? I, however, do believe these guys cuz the video is there for all to see.
Public Inquiries into Emergencies Act begin September 19
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I just deliver the pizzas. But I admire lawyers. It's a hard field to get into.
You seem to think that lawyers are under some obligation to tell the truth. They're not, any more than anybody else.
Lawyers are, afterall, human and are the same as most people. I was referring to the video where the lawyers state & question "experts" who disavow what the government has stated. So it's not the lawyers that are lying; it's the government as per the so-called "experts" Capish?
the criminal trial of Freedom Convoy organizers Tamara Lich and Chris Barber.
The pair stand co-accused of mischief, obstructing police, counselling others to commit mischief and intimidation during the anti-government protests that paralyzed the Nation’s Capital for three weeks in February 2022. The trial is expected to last at least 16 days and will feature evidence including hundreds of social media posts by Lich, Barber and others, and videos that were livestreamed throughout the protest.
The lawyers for Lich and Barber are trying their best to depoliticize the trial. “We do not expect this to be the trial of the Freedom Convoy,” they said in a joint statement. “The central issue will be whether the actions of two of the organizers of a peaceful protest should warrant criminal sanction.”
Good luck with that. The Liberals would very much like this to be the trial of the convoy, to remind the Canadian public of the opposition Conservatives’ support for it. Expect Liberal social media posts of Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre handing out coffee to truckers while airhorns blare in the background and a pro-Trump flag flutters in the breeze.
That’s because polls taken at the time showed two-thirds of Canadians wanted the protests cleared out, and six months later, 70 per cent still held a ”negative view” of politicians who supported the convoy. With their poll standings at an all time low today, the Liberals will attempt to conflate their adversaries with unsavoury elements — and with far-right rumblings growing louder south of the border, they figure the fear card is a good one to play.
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Tamara Lich, the Freedom Convoy leader whose trial begins this week, is no hero. She led a protest movement that illegally occupied downtown Ottawa for three weeks, blocking access to roads and local businesses. Though largely nonviolent, the convoy was an extreme nuisance that went beyond the mere inconvenience expected of a large demonstration. But, if Lich is no hero, neither is she a terrorist, insurrectionist leader or fascist plotter, as so many of her critics in the media and the Liberal party desperately want her to be.
The decision to invoke the Emergencies Act, according to Trudeau, rested not on an actual threat of violence, but on the possibility that such a threat could emerge. Setting aside the point that this reasoning is an inversion of the standards set for invoking the act, it wasn’t the convoy itself that increased the possibility of violence breaking out, but the utter failure of police to maintain any semblance of order.
That Lich’s case, and that of fellow convoy leader Chris Barber, has gone to trial at all is less an indictment of the actual crimes they are alleged to have committed — mischief, obstructing police and intimidation — than of the sheer incompetence of the Canadian state. The fact that the capital of a G7 nation can’t handle anything more serious than a speeding ticket without collapsing into chaos is the real crime here.
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The pair stand co-accused of mischief, obstructing police, counselling others to commit mischief and intimidation during the anti-government protests that paralyzed the Nation’s Capital for three weeks in February 2022. The trial is expected to last at least 16 days and will feature evidence including hundreds of social media posts by Lich, Barber and others, and videos that were livestreamed throughout the protest.
The lawyers for Lich and Barber are trying their best to depoliticize the trial. “We do not expect this to be the trial of the Freedom Convoy,” they said in a joint statement. “The central issue will be whether the actions of two of the organizers of a peaceful protest should warrant criminal sanction.”
Good luck with that. The Liberals would very much like this to be the trial of the convoy, to remind the Canadian public of the opposition Conservatives’ support for it. Expect Liberal social media posts of Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre handing out coffee to truckers while airhorns blare in the background and a pro-Trump flag flutters in the breeze.
That’s because polls taken at the time showed two-thirds of Canadians wanted the protests cleared out, and six months later, 70 per cent still held a ”negative view” of politicians who supported the convoy. With their poll standings at an all time low today, the Liberals will attempt to conflate their adversaries with unsavoury elements — and with far-right rumblings growing louder south of the border, they figure the fear card is a good one to play.
Tasha Kheiriddin: Freedom Convoy trial won't help Trudeau's tanking poll numbers — National Post
But Conservatives should be careful not to fall for the temptation to rely on propaganda for popularity
Tamara Lich, the Freedom Convoy leader whose trial begins this week, is no hero. She led a protest movement that illegally occupied downtown Ottawa for three weeks, blocking access to roads and local businesses. Though largely nonviolent, the convoy was an extreme nuisance that went beyond the mere inconvenience expected of a large demonstration. But, if Lich is no hero, neither is she a terrorist, insurrectionist leader or fascist plotter, as so many of her critics in the media and the Liberal party desperately want her to be.
The decision to invoke the Emergencies Act, according to Trudeau, rested not on an actual threat of violence, but on the possibility that such a threat could emerge. Setting aside the point that this reasoning is an inversion of the standards set for invoking the act, it wasn’t the convoy itself that increased the possibility of violence breaking out, but the utter failure of police to maintain any semblance of order.
That Lich’s case, and that of fellow convoy leader Chris Barber, has gone to trial at all is less an indictment of the actual crimes they are alleged to have committed — mischief, obstructing police and intimidation — than of the sheer incompetence of the Canadian state. The fact that the capital of a G7 nation can’t handle anything more serious than a speeding ticket without collapsing into chaos is the real crime here.
Carson Jerema: Tamara Lich exposed the incompetence of the Canadian state — National Post
A G7 nation that can't handle anything more serious than a speeding ticket without collapsing into chaos is the real crime here
They incited. . . traffic and parking violations.
Hang 'em, sez I. Hang 'em with a new rope!
Hang 'em, sez I. Hang 'em with a new rope!
It is interesting. In court, as video is being reviewed, the videos not being talked about so far are the ones that try to understand just who was carrying a swastika flag and what their role really was, who shot Rebel News reporter Alexa Lavoie with a tear gas cannister, what, if any, intelligence did military spy flights collect, and who was the second person seen in videos to end up under a police horse? That person has never been identified or had his or her condition explained.
While Lich and Barber are charged with mischief and counselling to commit mischief and intimidation, Greenspon is making the argument that all this ever was, was a lawful protest.
“From what we have seen over and over again, the freedom convoy was a peaceful assembly and I don’t think there was any question about that,” he said.
But that is not how the government sees it. They originally booked 16 days for this trail and then there was talk of making it 20. Now comes word two weeks will be added and the trial now scheduled to go a whopping 26 days.
“And that may not even be enough,” said Greenspon with a chuckle, adding he’s never seen a mischief case lasting for almost a month — weeks longer than many murder cases. The Col. Russell Williams double homicide case was sorted out in two days. The Justice Paul Rouleau inquiry into the calling of the Emergency’s Act lasted 31 days.
That’s an interesting perspective all by itself.
WARMINGTON: As two charged Freedom Convoy protesters sat in court, police helped another protest block streets — Toronto Sun
Some protests get help from police and others don’t. Thursday was a tale of two protests and two different approaches. The irony was lost on no one sitting inside Canada’s ongoing show trial of two political prisoners who could face 10 years in prison for daring to stand up to Prime Minister...
Thursday was a tale of two protests and two different approaches. The irony was lost on no one sitting inside Canada’s ongoing show trial of two political prisoners who could face 10 years in prison for daring to stand up to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s mask and vaccine mandates.
Inside the courtroom here in the nation’s capital, two Canadians are on trial who have already spent time in jail for their alleged roles in the 2022 Freedom Convoy protest. Outside the same courthouse, a protest of Eritrean residents was blocking streets as they marched up on their way to protest Israel at the Israeli embassy.
Elgin St., Laurier Ave., Queen St., Wellington St. and O’Connor St.
If those sound familiar, those were amongst the streets the truckers parked or impeded during the infamous demonstration in the winter of 2022. However, this time there were no bank accounts frozen, no riot squad police brought in, no horses, rubber bullets, pepper spray, tear gas, guns or handcuffs.
And no Emergencies Act declared. Honk! Honk! “That’s what this case is all about — freedom about peaceful assembly.”
While Chris Barber was given bail the next day after his February arrest, Tamara Lich served 49 days in the slammer before being granted bail. These other protesters Thursday were aided and abetted by police and no one was charged.
But before you complain about that, legendary Ottawa defence lawyer Lawrence Greenspon — representing Lich — made the point that what went on here on the street in front of the courthouse a year and half later is how it should be.
Thursday was a tale of two protests and two different approaches. The irony was lost on no one sitting inside Canada’s ongoing show trial of two political prisoners who could face 10 years in prison for daring to stand up to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s mask and vaccine mandates.
WATCH: A brief history of COVID authoritarianism in Canada — National Post
Jamie Sarkonak interviews Christine Van Geyn and Joanna Baron, authors of the new book, 'Pandemic Panic: How Canadian Government Responses to COVID-19 Changed Civil Liberties Forever'
“I have concluded that the decision to issue the Proclamation (of the Emergencies Act) does not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness – justification, transparency and intelligibility – and was not justified in relation to the relevant factual and legal constraints that were required to be taken into consideration,” Federal Court Justice Richard Mosley wrote.
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Honk-Honk?
Court rules Liberals' use of Emergencies Act was unjustified, unreasonable — National Post
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the Act in the wake of trucker convoy protests in downtown Ottawa in February 2022
“I have concluded that the decision to issue the Proclamation (of the Emergencies Act) does not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness – justification, transparency and intelligibility – and was not justified in relation to the relevant factual and legal constraints that were required to be taken into consideration,” Federal Court Justice Richard Mosley wrote.
Honk-Honk?Court rules Liberals' use of Emergencies Act was unjustified, unreasonable — National Post
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the Act in the wake of trucker convoy protests in downtown Ottawa in February 2022
Maybe this can be dropped now...
Oh wait, already being appealed (and was gonna be regardless).
Meh, let us know when the SCOC makes it's decision.
The Federal Court ruling comes almost exactly a year after the Commissioner of the Emergencies’ Act inquiry found that the government acted appropriately when it invoked the Act. However, at the time Justice Paul Rouleau said the factual basis to support his conclusion was not “overwhelming” and “reasonable and informed people could reach a different conclusion.”
Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said Tuesday the federal government will appeal the court ruling. She said the government stands by its decision to invoke the Act (will & have are two different things with respect to a future appeal). “We do not agree with this decision. And respectfully we will be appealing it,” Ms. Freeland said.
Count on it.
Invoking Emergencies Act wasn’t justified and infringed on Charter rights, Federal Court rules — The Globe and Mail
Justice Mosley’s ruling says the act’s invocation was unreasonable because ‘threat to the security of Canada’ did not mean a general danger to the Canadian way of life
About 280 accounts were seized during the Ottawa protests, and Canada became internationally known for being the place that punishes by taking away people’s means to buy food and pay rent without a warrant. Now that the Federal Court has set out exactly why that was wrong, Canadians have a solid precedent to point back to should any tyrannical move be embraced again.
Now, we just have to hope the Supreme Court of Canada is just as reasonable, because this challenge is probably headed all the way to the top.
Jamie Sarkonak: Liberals had no place freezing funds of Freedom Convoy protesters — National Post
Tuesday's Federal Court decision found the 'economic measures' taken to quell the protest were too broad and harsh to be justified
Supreme Court of Canada , enough said . They always take the Liberal Party side .About 280 accounts were seized during the Ottawa protests, and Canada became internationally known for being the place that punishes by taking away people’s means to buy food and pay rent without a warrant. Now that the Federal Court has set out exactly why that was wrong, Canadians have a solid precedent to point back to should any tyrannical move be embraced again.
Now, we just have to hope the Supreme Court of Canada is just as reasonable, because this challenge is probably headed all the way to the top.
Jamie Sarkonak: Liberals had no place freezing funds of Freedom Convoy protesters — National Post
Tuesday's Federal Court decision found the 'economic measures' taken to quell the protest were too broad and harsh to be justified
Now comes the Class Action prep...About 280 accounts were seized during the Ottawa protests, and Canada became internationally known for being the place that punishes by taking away people’s means to buy food and pay rent without a warrant. Now that the Federal Court has set out exactly why that was wrong, Canadians have a solid precedent to point back to should any tyrannical move be embraced again.
Now, we just have to hope the Supreme Court of Canada is just as reasonable, because this challenge is probably headed all the way to the top.
Jamie Sarkonak: Liberals had no place freezing funds of Freedom Convoy protesters — National Post
Tuesday's Federal Court decision found the 'economic measures' taken to quell the protest were too broad and harsh to be justified
SCoC already knows it was illegal.
Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland said the Trudeau government — which froze the bank accounts of people it said were linked to the Freedom Convoy protesters after invoking the Emergencies Act — respectfully disagreed with Justice Mosley’s ruling and will appeal it.
But really, what else could the government say, given that so much of its political credibility was tied to declaring the Emergencies Act?
Tuesday’s federal court ruling that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s invocation of the Emergencies Act in February 2022 to end the Freedom Convoy protest in Ottawa was unconstitutional, is its third major courtroom defeat in recent months.
Justice Richard Mosley, a recognized expert on national security and anti-terrorism issues, ruled the government’s decision, did “not bear the hallmarks of reasonableness — justification, transparency and intelligibility — and was not justified …”
“I conclude that there was no national emergency justifying the invocation of the Emergencies Act and the decision to do so was therefore unreasonable and ultra vires (beyond the government’s authority to act).”
EDITORIAL: Another huge legal defeat for Trudeau — Toronto Sun
Tuesday’s federal court ruling that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s invocation of the Emergencies Act in February 2022 to end the Freedom Convoy protest in Ottawa was unconstitutional, is his third major courtroom defeat in recent months. Justice Richard Mosley, a recognized expert on national...