There is the evidence.
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As negligent, petty, and cruel as the people who invented him.
Physics does not tell you that the solar system came spontaneously into existence and that it is without purpose.
The thing is that you want to see by your eyes God Himself carries out the creation before your eyes.
God inserted His laws of physics (and chemistry and biology) to work according to His will... about this, you do not believe.
See the wisdom about the creation of the marvelous solar system, and you will know that God the All-Wise created everything with wisdom and not in vain.
This is not related to science ... certainly and absolutely.
So whether it is 1400 years old or more or less ... is not related to its being correct or not.
The illiteracy of Prophet Mohammed is a positive point to his truthfulness, so he told people about what is included in the Bible which was in a foreign language, and the Prophet was illiterate in Arabic even.
The same is true about the Quran interpreter, Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, who was about illiterate: he only knew reading and writing Arabic... so he would not be influenced by the contemporary sectarian divisions and creeds, and would depend only on inspiration... so he told people about many things... some of which was the correction of some mistakes done and said by scientists (unintentionally of course.)
the thing is that you are not moved to think about many of such points, and I may occasionally feel moved to scorn your willful ignoring.
The point is that this has been done by God for wisdom: that both the Prophet Mohammed and the Mahdi Mohammed-Ali were illiterate and about illiterate.
Prophet Mohammed did not follow the corrupt ways of Jews and Christians, and the Mahdi Mohammed-Ali did not follow the contemporary corrupt sectarian ways.
Suppose that the Mahdi graduated from a primary school, the atheists would say: it is not enough, if he graduated from a high school, they still would say: it is not enough, and if he graduates from a university, they would keep saying: it is not sufficient, and even if he has a Ph.D. degree, they would keep saying: he is wrong and his mind is disturbed ... therefore, it is only a matter of convincing and belief.
According to your blasphemy, I recall somebody said laughing: You do not perceive now that you are on the brim or edgy of a great danger (of termination by God Almighty) while you mock with your ignorance and conceit. That somebody laughed and said: On the hand palm of Ifriet or genie.
[you don't know when he will turn down his hand.]N.B. This is a joke about the genie as in fable stories, while the truth about genies is told by God in the Quran in many ayat, and explained in the book of Man after Death Genies
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Since you know almost nothing of what science is or how it works your opinion is worth nothing. You tried to argue in post 163 above that ignorance and belief without evidence are virtues. You continue to underline your own folly.
Go with the Epic of Gilgamesh. None of those tedious "Thou shalt not have fun" rules. And hard to beat for "old."
Group of disbelievers: atheists and idolaters! I clear and quit myself from you and from your disbelief; I never incline to you or to your ways: neither in this World nor in the Hereafter, and I ask God Most Gracious that He may not gather me with you in the Hereafter, because your destiny there is very dark... and I extremely dislike and abhor your disbelief so much and very much.
Then get with the program and take yourself from this place since no one believes in YOUR VERSION of God.
He also quit back at post #111, so don’t hold your breath. He just finally lost his temper when he couldn’t convince anyone that he’s right. That’s happened before too, he was twice timed out by the mods, I think for threatening people directly, as eanassir and Self same. He’s been more circumspect as Torch light, but he’s the same Islamist fundie who I’m sure would cheerfully and bloodily send us all to the afterlife, believing he’s doing Allah’s work, to begin our real suffering that he so gleefully expounds on, if he could get away with it.
I'll give Motar credit. Never broke from Christian kindness.
Made no more sense than the others, but did it nicely.
Bullshit. You'll be here tomorrow posting more of your same nonsense.
Nobody asked you to.
Soooo...this world then.
The only 'Destiny' I know is some White chick who used to dance at the Booby Trap.
Hate the sin, love the sinner. Oh wait, that's a different book of religious bullshit.
I quit myself from your atheism and idolatry, not from people on this forum or from everyone who reads.
I have no idea what that could possibly mean. You can’t quit something you were never part of, and the only people responding to your preaching are those you call atheists and idolaters, when you’re not mislabeling them as wicked Jews and Zionists. Do you mean you’re going to stop trying to save us from our evil misguided ways? That would be good, you’d never succeed anyway, people accustomed to freedom will never buy your brand of dangerously ignorant and bigoted religious extremism. You believe you’re absolutely right, beyond any possibility of error, with no test in reality, and history shows that people who think that way easily justify doing terrible things to those who disagree with them. Think inquisitions, genocides, holocausts, crusades, crashing airplanes into buildings…
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What rhetoric! What fluency in language!
Anyhow, to what I said, I recall some ayat of the Glorious Quran 10: 41, which means:
(If they accuse you [O Mohammed f ] of lying, say: "To me [is the recompense of] my work, and to you [is the recompense of] your work.
You are quit [and not responsible] of what I do, and I am quit [and not responsible] of what you do." g )
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f In what you invite them.
g It means: you will not be punished for my sins if I am guilty as you claim, neither will I be punished for your sins; each one is responsible for his own sins.
Similar to this aya is another one in the Quran 34: 50, which means: (Say: "If I am misguided [away from the truth, as you claim], then [the sin of] my erring is only against my soul; and if I have guidance [to the truth], then that is according to what [Quran and wisdom] my Lord reveals to me.)
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/10.htm#a10_41
What a reply! Absolute BS and doesn't deny that you're equal to those who did the inquisition, genocides, crusades and so on.
So, liar and terrorist, as well as just another kind of forced religion fanatic.