Omnibus Russia Ukraine crisis

[feduptaxpayer]

I’m not sure why his popularity is so strong.. he has been stealing oil money from “Mother Russia” and expanding his own interests.. not that of Russia..

So many poor in Russia and Putin is worth Billions..

Same as BLM, worth 60 million, but what have they done for the Black Community other than promote burning and looting of black neighborhoods..

I guess those flat headed cauliflowered eard Russian just ain’t that fucking smart..

As if Zelensky was not stealing money from the Ukranian people already. Zelensky is worth millions maybe even billions. The guy has shut down churches, some media outlets that did not kiss his butt, and certain political party's that he did not like having around. A challenge to his corrupt government. There must be a good reason for NATO and America pumping hundreds of billions of supplies and money, and yet Zelensky is still losing the battle. Zelensky keeps asking for more military equipment and money all the time. Putin is still kicking Zelensky's butt.

You are not giving the Russians any credit at all. They are smart. It is the Ukranians that are not smart enough to see how Zelensky is making their lives miserable as hell every day. Zelensky cares about Ukraine just as much as Marxist Trudeau cares about Canada. It seems like in most countries, their leaders seem to ignore their citizen's rather than help them. Our political leaders have become followers of the great WEF globalist reset then real leaders.

 

[petros]

Keep trying.

 

[The_Foxer]

Putin is still kicking Zelensky's butt.

How? I mean, it's pretty universally accepted that Russia is severely under-performing in this war. The initial belief by all major players was that they would hold out 3 days, maybe a week. That was a year ago and Ukraine has taken most of the captured land back and is in a strong position to take the rest. Even if you take the estimated Russian Casualties with a grain of salt and cut them in half, they're still unbelievably devastating and horrific.

I'm not sure i see how you can possibly make the argument logically that Ukraine isn't winning this war, and Russia is losing it despite having had all the advantages going into it.

You are not giving the Russians any credit at all. They are smart.

In what way? Individually they may be smart but i see very little to suggest a collective intelligence in the last year. Their economy has taken a beating over an unnecessary war of conquest which is failing, a lot of their sons are not coming home fighting this rather pointless conflict and now more and more are being called up and asked to give their lives over it... when does this get to be fun and beneficial for the russian people?

 

[feduptaxpayer]

How? I mean, it's pretty universally accepted that Russia is severely under-performing in this war. The initial belief by all major players was that they would hold out 3 days, maybe a week. That was a year ago and Ukraine has taken most of the captured land back and is in a strong position to take the rest. Even if you take the estimated Russian Casualties with a grain of salt and cut them in half, they're still unbelievably devastating and horrific.

I'm not sure i see how you can possibly make the argument logically that Ukraine isn't winning this war, and Russia is losing it despite having had all the advantages going into it.

In what way? Individually they may be smart but i see very little to suggest a collective intelligence in the last year. Their economy has taken a beating over an unnecessary war of conquest which is failing, a lot of their sons are not coming home fighting this rather pointless conflict and now more and more are being called up and asked to give their lives over it... when does this get to be fun and beneficial for the russian people?

I think that you have been listening and believing way too much to the fake liberal MSM. Putin is not losing, he is winning. If fascist Zelensky is winning why does he keep on asking for more military equipment and money to fight the war. Russia has time on it's hands, Ukraine does not. America and other NATO countries know that they cannot beat Russia, and the only reason that America is still in the Ukraine is because the American military establishment is making hundreds of millions from the war.

Corrupt Zelensky is no doubt receiving millions in cash from around the world and I am pretty dam sure that Zelensky takes a cut from all of those donations. After all, Zelensky is already a millionaire. When the fight gets to tight for Zelensky he will fly off to somewhere nice and warm and America will back off when there is no more money to be stolen. How long will the Ukranian people say enough already? The war is not fun or beneficial for them either.

 

[The_Foxer]

I think that you have been listening and believing way too much to the fake liberal MSM.

I think you'll find i'm pretty well read on just about anything i bother to talk about and rarely rely on such sources as that You'll have to do a little better than that if you're gong to be convincing.

Putin is not losing, he is winning.

Well he's lost almost all the territory he gained, he's severely damaged his economy, he's gotten a number of his people killed which is higher than the US's losses for the entire vietnam war, and most experts are having a very hard time seeing how he can hold off losing ALL his ground probably including crimea.

So... how are you defining 'winning'? In what way is he winning?

If fascist Zelensky is winning why does he keep on asking for more military equipment and money to fight the war.

Because he's winning. If he was losing nobody'd bother to give him any. They give him some because he's winning.

Russia has time on it's hands, Ukraine does not

time is certainly NOT on russia's side. They are one country, making up the losses in trained men and equipment takes a LOT of time, whereas dozens of countries are shipping ukraine new stuff every week. Before long ukraine will have far more in theatre firepower and the russians will not. Sooooo - how exactly is time russia's ally here?

America and other NATO countries know that they cannot beat Russia,

They are beating russia. Russia is losing ground, russian equipment is not doing well against the allied equipment and that's why they keep sending more.

When the fight gets to tight for Zelensky

And when does that happen? Russia already lost almost all it's gained ground, and frankly doesn't look like it's in any danger of gaining significant ground anytime soon. Assuming their current rate of advancement he'll be retired and probably dead of old age long before they're able to threaten him directly.

You're making these statements but you're not offering a single thing to back them up or explain why you feel that way. So it's a little hard to take it seriously.

Right now Ukraine is equipping and training on pretty offensive weapons vs the defensive ones they've been given previously. They will soon be in a position to exploit russian weaknesses in the areas south and south east of kherson and stand a good chance of taking back much of that area, which would leave the russians fighting on 3 sides and probably cost them crimea. The small gains the russians are making around bakmut are at the expense of thousand and thousands of their soldiers dead and much loss of equipment in a fashion that's unsustainable for extended periods.

Soooo - again, by what metric are you measuring russia's ' successes ' such that you think they are 'winning' the war?

 

[bill barilko]

Putin is not losing, he is winning.

Found the lying mouthpiece!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Found the lying mouthpiece!

He probably watches all those movies that imply we "won" Vietnam, too.

 

[The_Foxer]

He probably watches all those movies that imply we "won" Vietnam, too.

Haha yeah he thinks we .... wait a minute.... what are you saying?... (googling noises intensify.... ) GODDAMIT!!!

 

[feduptaxpayer]

I think you'll find i'm pretty well read on just about anything i bother to talk about and rarely rely on such sources as that You'll have to do a little better than that if you're gong to be convincing.

Well he's lost almost all the territory he gained, he's severely damaged his economy, he's gotten a number of his people killed which is higher than the US's losses for the entire vietnam war, and most experts are having a very hard time seeing how he can hold off losing ALL his ground probably including crimea.

So... how are you defining 'winning'? In what way is he winning?


Because he's winning. If he was losing nobody'd bother to give him any. They give him some because he's winning.


time is certainly NOT on russia's side. They are one country, making up the losses in trained men and equipment takes a LOT of time, whereas dozens of countries are shipping ukraine new stuff every week. Before long ukraine will have far more in theatre firepower and the russians will not. Sooooo - how exactly is time russia's ally here?


They are beating russia. Russia is losing ground, russian equipment is not doing well against the allied equipment and that's why they keep sending more.



And when does that happen? Russia already lost almost all it's gained ground, and frankly doesn't look like it's in any danger of gaining significant ground anytime soon. Assuming their current rate of advancement he'll be retired and probably dead of old age long before they're able to threaten him directly.

You're making these statements but you're not offering a single thing to back them up or explain why you feel that way. So it's a little hard to take it seriously.

Right now Ukraine is equipping and training on pretty offensive weapons vs the defensive ones they've been given previously. They will soon be in a position to exploit russian weaknesses in the areas south and south east of kherson and stand a good chance of taking back much of that area, which would leave the russians fighting on 3 sides and probably cost them crimea. The small gains the russians are making around bakmut are at the expense of thousand and thousands of their soldiers dead and much loss of equipment in a fashion that's unsustainable for extended periods.

Soooo - again, by what metric are you measuring russia's ' successes ' such that you think they are 'winning' the war?

(1) So, just what proof do you have that Putin is losing the battle with Ukraine? Show me the proof, goof. Do not ignore the question.

(2) Putin is winning because he is still in Ukraine kicking Zelensky's butt. If Zenensky is winning the war then why is Putin still in Ukraine?

(3) Zelensky is losing and keeps asking for more tanks and other military and whatever, plus more money for money laundering, because Russia keeps blowing up their tanks and other military hardware. Putin is still bombing buildings. I would safely say that Putin is winning the war. Putin's still punching away.

(4) Again, what proof do you have to offer that Russia is losing ground? Russia has not left the Donbass area yet.

(5) Above is what I have to offer you. So, are you going to reply or not to my questions I asked of you? What proof do you have of anything that you keep trying to tell me that Zelensky is kicking Putin's butt?

(6) As long as Putin is still in Ukraine, Putin is still winning the war. What more can be said. Over.

 

[feduptaxpayer]

Found the lying mouthpiece!

Are you referring to corrupt fascist Zelensky?

 

[Serryah]

(1) So, just what proof do you have that Putin is losing the battle with Ukraine? Show me the proof, goof. Do not ignore the question.

(2) Putin is winning because he is still in Ukraine kicking Zelensky's butt. If Zenensky is winning the war then why is Putin still in Ukraine?

(3) Zelensky is losing and keeps asking for more tanks and other military and whatever, plus more money for money laundering, because Russia keeps blowing up their tanks and other military hardware. Putin is still bombing buildings. I would safely say that Putin is winning the war. Putin's still punching away.

(4) Again, what proof do you have to offer that Russia is losing ground? Russia has not left the Donbass area yet.

(5) Above is what I have to offer you. So, are you going to reply or not to my questions I asked of you? What proof do you have of anything that you keep trying to tell me that Zelensky is kicking Putin's butt?

(6) As long as Putin is still in Ukraine, Putin is still winning the war. What more can be said. Over.

Might have that tin foil wrapped just a *liiiiitle* too tight, my dude.

 

[bill barilko]

Are you referring to corrupt fascist Zelensky?

No I'm referring to you - I recognise you by the reek that emanates from your lying mouth.

 

[The_Foxer]

(1) So, just what proof do you have that Putin is losing the battle with Ukraine? Show me the proof, goof

I have already answered that question even before you asked. Putin has lost ridiculously large amounts of people, more than the US in the entire vietnam conflict even if you cut the estimates to 1/3. He's lost a huge amount of tanks and equipment. He's lost almost all the land he took and has been pushed back on all fronts and the Ukraine is gaining military strength faster than he is. Putin's economy is badly hurt, and will not likely recover even when the war is over at all, while the ukraine will be a beehive of rebuilding and activity that will boost it's economy to insane levels.

If things continue as they have been for the last year, putin will lose the war entirely in a most humiliating and long term fashion. IT will be the end of russia having much influence in countries around the world. Who would be afraid of them then?

It's pretty much the definition of losing.

utin is winning because he is still in Ukraine kicking Zelensky's butt. If Zenensky is winning the war then why is Putin still in Ukraine?

That is beyond illogical. Putin is LOSING ground and has been for quite some time. So he's LOSING the war. The fact he hasn't LOST yet doesn't mean he's not LOSING. It's like claiming Hitler was winning in 1944 because he still had a foot in Russia. He wasn't.

Zelensky is losing and keeps asking for more tanks and other military and whatever, plus more money for money laundering, because Russia keeps blowing up their tanks and other military hardware. Putin is still bombing buildings. I would safely say that Putin is winning the war. Putin's still punching away.

Putin is literally drafting 300 k replacements and begging allies for ammo. If your argument is that someone is 'losing' because they have lost equipment then Putin is losing even worse than if we use my definition. Putin has lost vastly more equipment and manpower than Zelensky

And Nobody gives more material to someone who's losing. So the very fact that so many nations are giving him gear is a pretty good sign he's winning.

Again tho, the proof is on the ground. Russia has lost most of the ground it took and the remainder is badly threatened. Zelensky has taken much ground back and is poised to take more. He's winning. But if you want to talk about gear it's pretty obvious the russians are losing even faster there. I don't think that's a good measure tho.

(4) Again, what proof do you have to offer that Russia is losing ground?

they're called maps. Mankind has had them for a while now Russia is very clearly losing ground. How many Russians would you say are in Kherson, just as an example? Even the russians admit it, there's no controversy here. The russians were badly thrown back and it cost them an insane amount of men and material. At the moment neither side is doing much but we know Ukraine is re-equipping faster than Russia is, and Russia has largely tapped out it's allies supplies of useful material.

Above is what I have to offer you. So, are you going to reply or not to my questions I asked of you?

Yes - as soon as i stop laughing.

Russia has lost more gear than Ukraine. Russia is resupplying slower than Ukraine thanks to the rest of the world chipping in. Russia has lost most of the land it took and has been driven out of more land than it currently holds. It's also in very real danger of losing land it held at the beginning of the conflict permanently. And on top of it they've trashed their economy as well.

You argue that as long as they are still in Ukraine they are winning. That is very obviously an insane way to measure it. As i said - Germany wasn't "winning" in 44 just because they still held a little bit of russia, America wasn't "Winning" in March of 75 in vietnam just because they still had troops there, simply being present doesn't mean you're winning at all.

In fact - considering he has lost ground and is in LESS of the ukraine than he was... even by your definition he's losing. He hasn't lost - but he's losing. And if he doesn't turn it around he will be utterly defeated in the most embarrassing fashion.

 

[pgs]

No I'm referring to you - I recognise you by the reek that emanates from your lying mouth.

So how did he get so rich ?

 

[pgs]

I have already answered that question even before you asked. Putin has lost ridiculously large amounts of people, more than the US in the entire vietnam conflict even if you cut the estimates to 1/3. He's lost a huge amount of tanks and equipment. He's lost almost all the land he took and has been pushed back on all fronts and the Ukraine is gaining military strength faster than he is. Putin's economy is badly hurt, and will not likely recover even when the war is over at all, while the ukraine will be a beehive of rebuilding and activity that will boost it's economy to insane levels.

If things continue as they have been for the last year, putin will lose the war entirely in a most humiliating and long term fashion. IT will be the end of russia having much influence in countries around the world. Who would be afraid of them then?

It's pretty much the definition of losing.


That is beyond illogical. Putin is LOSING ground and has been for quite some time. So he's LOSING the war. The fact he hasn't LOST yet doesn't mean he's not LOSING. It's like claiming Hitler was winning in 1944 because he still had a foot in Russia. He wasn't.


Putin is literally drafting 300 k replacements and begging allies for ammo. If your argument is that someone is 'losing' because they have lost equipment then Putin is losing even worse than if we use my definition. Putin has lost vastly more equipment and manpower than Zelensky

And Nobody gives more material to someone who's losing. So the very fact that so many nations are giving him gear is a pretty good sign he's winning.

Again tho, the proof is on the ground. Russia has lost most of the ground it took and the remainder is badly threatened. Zelensky has taken much ground back and is poised to take more. He's winning. But if you want to talk about gear it's pretty obvious the russians are losing even faster there. I don't think that's a good measure tho.


they're called maps. Mankind has had them for a while now Russia is very clearly losing ground. How many Russians would you say are in Kherson, just as an example? Even the russians admit it, there's no controversy here. The russians were badly thrown back and it cost them an insane amount of men and material. At the moment neither side is doing much but we know Ukraine is re-equipping faster than Russia is, and Russia has largely tapped out it's allies supplies of useful material.


Yes - as soon as i stop laughing.

Russia has lost more gear than Ukraine. Russia is resupplying slower than Ukraine thanks to the rest of the world chipping in. Russia has lost most of the land it took and has been driven out of more land than it currently holds. It's also in very real danger of losing land it held at the beginning of the conflict permanently. And on top of it they've trashed their economy as well.

You argue that as long as they are still in Ukraine they are winning. That is very obviously an insane way to measure it. As i said - Germany wasn't "winning" in 44 just because they still held a little bit of russia, America wasn't "Winning" in March of 75 in vietnam just because they still had troops there, simply being present doesn't mean you're winning at all.

In fact - considering he has lost ground and is in LESS of the ukraine than he was... even by your definition he's losing. He hasn't lost - but he's losing. And if he doesn't turn it around he will be utterly defeated in the most embarrassing fashion.

Take your glasses off . This is not the same as Veitnam .

 

[The_Foxer]

Take your glasses off . This is not the same as Veitnam .

Put your hearing aids in. Nobody said it was.

the only comparison was the casualty count. Much has been written about how devistating those loses were long term to the us. It had a strong impact on the economy, on families and on the sociopolitical landscape for many years, mostly negatively. And Russia has come close to doubling that loss in a single year - and that's if you cut the estimated losses in half to allow for exaggeration. The political, social and economic impact of that is huge. So in that respect you're right, it's not the same - for russia it's much worse.


I suppose the other similarity is the draft to fight a foriegn war. That turned out to be pretty negative too even for the soldiers who came home uninjured. It's already had a negative impact in russia, i suspect that history won't view it in a positive light either.

 

[Twin_Moose]

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

(1) So, just what proof do you have that Putin is losing the battle with Ukraine? Show me the proof, goof. Do not ignore the question.

(2) Putin is winning because he is still in Ukraine kicking Zelensky's butt. If Zenensky is winning the war then why is Putin still in Ukraine?

(3) Zelensky is losing and keeps asking for more tanks and other military and whatever, plus more money for money laundering, because Russia keeps blowing up their tanks and other military hardware. Putin is still bombing buildings. I would safely say that Putin is winning the war. Putin's still punching away.

(4) Again, what proof do you have to offer that Russia is losing ground? Russia has not left the Donbass area yet.

(5) Above is what I have to offer you. So, are you going to reply or not to my questions I asked of you? What proof do you have of anything that you keep trying to tell me that Zelensky is kicking Putin's butt?

(6) As long as Putin is still in Ukraine, Putin is still winning the war. What more can be said. Over.

(1) You made the claim Putin is winning, you show the proof.

(2) Don't be ridiculous. Was Hitler winning until we marched into Germany?

(3) Putin is not achieving his objectives.

(4) It's in all the papers.

(5) For Ukraine, winning means pushing Russia out. For Russia, winning means installing a compliant client regime in Kyiv. Neither has happened

(6) If that's your definition, fine. You're fairly easy to ignore because you're not clever, funny, or insightful.

 

[spaminator]

Ovechkin shouldn't be welcomed into Canada, let's hope Toronto shuns him
His athletic skills are amazing, but his support for a genocidal dictator is disgusting

Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Jan 28, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

Sadly, on Sunday night, barring a last-minute scratch by coach Peter Laviolette, Alexander Ovechkin will hit the ice in Toronto against the Leafs.


We should all want to celebrate magnificent athletes, which Ovechkin definitely is, but he’s also an ardent supporter of a murderous, genocidal monster named Vladimir Putin.


That’s why I can’t cheer for Ovechkin and wish the Trudeau government had done the right thing and denied him an entry visa.

That’s what the Ukrainian Canadian Congress had asked the federal government to do, it’s what an online petition called for, simply deny entry to Ovechkin. On Thursday, it was announced Canada would send tanks to Ukraine, on Sunday Putin’s propaganda machine takes to the ice when the Washington Capitals visit Scotiabank Arena.




Let’s hope he’s booed with every touch of the puck as he has been in visits to Calgary and Edmonton.

Each time I’ve written about Ovechkin and his problematic support for Putin, I’ve been told that he’s simply a hockey player and we shouldn’t mix politics and sports. Well, somebody should have told that to Ovechkin before he organized the political operation known as Putin Team in 2017 to help his friend get re-elected in Russia.

Somebody should have told Ovechkin that sports and politics don’t mix before he posted Russian propaganda messages in support of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2014 that saw Putin annex Crimea.

Back in 2014, Ovechkin posted a photo to his Instagram feed, the same one that features a photo of his smiling with his friend Putin, that said, “#SaveChildrenFromFascism.” He was wearing a T-shirt that said “No War” while holding a sign with the hashtag that was used as an excuse for Russian aggression in Crimea and Ukraine’s Donbass region.


Would we have so easily accepted an athlete supporting Adolf Hitler coming into our towns, our arenas, our stadiums in the 1940s? Would such an athlete have been celebrated like Ovechkin is now?

With each atrocity carried out by his friend and president, Ovechkin should be asked if he still supports Putin. Each time a school or hospital is bombed by Russia, Ovechkin should be asked if these are actions he can support from his friend.


That won’t happen, it’s far easier to beat up on someone like Ivan Provorov, another Russian who plays for the Philadelphia Flyers and was recently roasted in all corners.

Provorov wasn’t denounced for supporting Putin, he wasn’t told by veteran sports broadcasters that he should go back to Russia for supporting the war against Ukraine. The sin that Provorov committed was deciding not to warm up with the Flyers ahead of a game when the team was wearing gay pride jerseys for warm up – not the game, the warm up.


Provorov explained that he respects everyone but he couldn’t wear the jersey because of his religion. He faced a much harsher backlash and scrutiny than Ovechkin has in the 11 months since the war started.

Russia wasn’t invited to the World Juniors over Christmas in Halifax. In fact, the tournament was supposed to be played in Russia but was moved after the invasion. Russian players have been banned from various sports and tournaments, but not the NHL.

I’m not even calling for Ovechkin to be kicked out of the league, I just don’t think we should invite athletes who support genocidal dictators we are currently fighting into our country. Let’s hope fans give Ovechkin the kind of cold and hostile welcome he deserves.

blilley@postmedia.com

NHL great Ovechkin forms 'Putin Team' movement to back Kremlin leader

Washington Capitals captain Alex Ovechkin is forming a public movement in support of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is all but certain to seek a new term in office next year.

reuters.com

Alex Ovechkin spinning his Instagram comment on Russian, Ukraine

Breaking the monotony: Questions about Ovechkin’s political statement on Instagram, in which he held a sign that read “Save Children From Fascism” in a comment on Russian intervention in Ukraine’s ongoing internal conflict.

sports.yahoo.com

Sign the Petition

Appeal to Trudeau to deny Ovechkin entry to Canada because he supports Putin

change.org

LILLEY: Ovechkin shouldn't be welcomed into Canada, let's hope Toronto shuns him

Sadly, on Sunday night, barring a last-minute scratch by his coach, Alexander Ovechkin will hit the ice in Toronto against the Leafs.

torontosun.com

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I agree that we shouldn't mix politics with sports. Which is why Ovi shouldn't be playing hockey.