Roe v. Wade overturned?

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petros said:
You'd best get a grip on what "person" means.
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You'd best get a grip on the fact that it doesn't matter because that is the inevitable next step in this whole argument.

So strap in now because it's going to be a bumpy ride for social conservatives.
 
Serryah

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harrylee said:
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You know what, let's just fix it totally.

Legislate men's bodies.

If a woman gets pregnant she can sue the man she was with for getting her so if she didn't want to be.

Or.

Men can get themselves somehow 'protected' so there's no chance for a woman to get pregnant if she does have sex with a man.

Or.

Push for more male contraceptives.

Or one of many other things.

Because without men, there's no pregnancy.

So let's put the responsibility on Men.
 
harrylee

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Serryah said:
You know what, let's just fix it totally.

Legislate men's bodies.

If a woman gets pregnant she can sue the man she was with for getting her so if she didn't want to be.

Or.

Men can get themselves somehow 'protected' so there's no chance for a woman to get pregnant if she does have sex with a man.

Or.

Push for more male contraceptives.

Or one of many other things.

Because without men, there's no pregnancy.

So let's put the responsibility on Men.
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Pretty sure that's called Child Support.
 
taxslave

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Serryah said:
I haven't seen anyone suggest that is anti-abortion that in the cases of a mother's life at risk, other than you right now. Dix sure as hell hasn't said anything about those instances, unless I missed them (which is possible).

But I'm also talking laws in the states, not just people on this board.



Have you been ignoring everything going on down south?

For some women, that's EXACTLY what the problem would be. Legal, AND safe.



"All the ruling does".... no, that's not all it does.



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thehill.com

Here are the states that have passed laws restricting and enshrining abortion access

The abortion fight is coming to a head this year, as the Supreme Court is set to decide the legality of a 15-week abortion ban in Mississippi. While the case sits in front of the conservative-majo…
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"The Republican governor of Arizona signed a 15-week abortion ban that has no exemptions.


“In Arizona, we know there is immeasurable value in every life – including preborn life,” Gov. Doug Ducey said. “I believe it is each state’s responsibility to protect them.”"

But it's not just "Total illegality"; depending on the states, the bans are so early that women won't even KNOW they're pregnant and some only have restrictions for medical reasons, meaning if a woman or child is raped/incest happens, she'd best suck it up.

Again, you don't like abortions, don't get one. But no one should be dictating to a woman what to do with her body.
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Pre born life. Do they not teach biology in the US?
 
petros

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mentalfloss said:
You'd best get a grip on the fact that it doesn't matter because that is the inevitable next step in this whole argument.

So strap in now because it's going to be a bumpy ride for social conservatives.
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Are you a person or a human? Does it matter? It does matter. It is everything and the only thing that matters.
 
pgs

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Serryah said:
You're right, likely I haven't been paying attention to Dix and Boom that much, or you, when it comes to the subject beyond the "Women don't get a right to choose for themselves what happens".

On that later part, I agree with you absolutely. Abortion used as contraception should NOT be a 'choice', a viable option what so ever.

But in the end, that is not up for me to decide, that's for a woman to decide.



You're right, technically it's not "illegal" for those who have the means and money to get an abortion. But if Bobby Jean in the sticks of Oklahoma or Texas, or a plethora of other states gets pregnant by her step-brother at fourteen, she's shit out of luck for any kind of abortion options before she either a) knows she's even pregnant (six week bans) or b) can't leave at all because even with a 15 week ban, travel, time and so on costs money she likely doesn't have and if her parents are super religious, well it's TOTALLY out of the question.

The abortion issue has always been a "keep women safe" issue. When you look at the history of it, women were DYING because they could not get abortions or had no access to safe ones. It was about women's health, period.



Neither is racial marriage.

Neither is same gender marriage.

Neither is contraception.

Neither are a whole bunch of other decisions under the 14th. Think about how many laws were made with the 14th as the reasoning to allow it. All of them could very well be overturned under the same excuse. Considering Roe was 50 years of, supposedly, precedent, that was REAFFIRMED with Casey, and yet the same judges who were asked about it lied and said that precedent meant they wouldn't overturn, and they did... yeah, people are right to worry.

Which is WHY this is a HUGE deal even more than it would be over just the overturn of Roe v. Wade and Casey.

There are people out there even trying to say that "Roe" was anti-abortion which apparently wasn't true either. Death bed confession from her said she was paid to say she was anti-abortion. Which just ass to the whole "This was a plan decades in the making" thing. Judges who lied, pro-life people paying off others to say they're anti-abortion when they weren't...

It's not up to anyone but the woman and her doctor to decide if abortion is 'right' or not.
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So can you provide a definition of the term , Woman ?
 
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