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Cliffy

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Ocean Breeze

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Allow me to amend, or at least explain, one point. Many of them are blind, as you say, but it is because they have willfully blinded themselves. You see it in the MAGAhat rationalizations: "He didn't mean it." "That's just the way he speaks." "Take him seriously but not literally."

Trump has offered them their choice of 1954, 1910, or 1855. His base of support is overwhelmingly White and disproportionately male. A master of TV imaging, Trump offers them Happy Days, Gunsmoke, or Daniel Boone. Not the reality of those years, but the fiction of stalwart men, supportive and uncomplaining women, and non-Whites who are generally completely invisible, or where visible are happily subservient or are subhuman enemies they can slaughter without remorse.

It should be no surprise. From patent medicines to land in Florida (or the west) to big-dick pills, scams generally succeed, depending on your definition of success.

As far as democracy in America goes, we currently have a choice between center-to-center-right, or batshit crazy posing as far-right. When one votes, one should vote for the general tenor or message of the party.

Democratic governance? Never existed, except in a few small towns in New England. Governance is performed by the politicians, and executed by the professionals (who are generally as close to truly neutral as humans can be). It's a good system, compared to everything else (Churchill's famous dictum: Democracy is the worst form of government on Earth, except for everything else).

You see it on this board, left and right. People latch onto one idea that will make everything better forever. But it simply doesn't work that way. Governance, and particularly democracy, are like owning a house or a 60s-model car. They require constant maintenance perpetual tinkering to work at all.

So it's left to those who take it seriously and put in the effort, with the check of having to report back every two or four or six years for an up-or-down vote. And the reason lying your ass off has become the most successful method for winning or surviving the up-or-down vote is the same reason hoi polloi, bless their ignorant, hateful, fear-filled hearts, will periodically buy Dr. Marvel's Magic Elixir (or hydroxychloroquine) or beachfront property in Florida or pills that will make your dick the size of your arm: because they're ignorant, fearful, and lack self-awareness.

At least everybody gets a say in a democracy. Not much of a say, mind, but something.

Trump is the closest thing we've had to a dictator since Andrew Jackson. But the system so far has been resilient enough that Trump, like Jackson, will leave when his time is over. Or maybe not. It may take guns to get him out. It wouldn't be the first time American democracy has needed the sharp correction of violence. No country in history has been immune.

If so, those guns will not be solely in the hands of slobbering MAGAhats.

I can hear you saying "But it's not right!" Don't bother. I can only give you Galileo's response to the Inquisition. . . "Yet it moves."
my dear Bones. THAT has to be one of the BEST posts I have rad on here. Well articulated and reasoned. & insightful. ( a high level of abstraction) Yes.......should something like Trump refusing to leave office bring some gun activity........it also stands to reason. There is context there.

You see "right" has many definitions. Circumstances & a multiple of other factors. can dictate actions.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Trump hasn't committed genocide.

THAT is not much of a recommendation. ( or qualification )


One could say that his hoaxing the Pandemic (minimizing it ) (inept handling ) contributed to a LOT of unnecessary deaths....
 

Walter

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my dear Bones. THAT has to be one of the BEST posts I have rad on here. Well articulated and reasoned. & insightful. ( a high level of abstraction) Yes.......should something like Trump refusing to leave office bring some gun activity........it also stands to reason. There is context there.
You see "right" has many definitions. Circumstances & a multiple of other factors. can dictate actions.
Mr. C's post is complete TDS.
 

pgs

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Based on WHAT FACTS??? Your biased generalizations don't hold water.
We currently have a choice of right or center right with bat shit crazy posing as far right .

Sounds like the old Canadian talking point that American Democrats are to the right of Canadian Conservatives. Right .
 

Durry

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>> I don’t know who wrote this, but SOMEONE FINALLY put into words what I’ve been thinking and feeling. I couldn’t agree more and thought I’d share these thoughts!
>> I’m sick...
>> of Covid-19.
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>> I’m sick...
>> of Black versus White.
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>> I’m sick...
>> of Democrats versus Republicans. Liberals versus Conservatives.
>> I’m sick...
>> of gay versus straight.
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>> I’m REALLY sick...
>> of the media.
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>> I’m sick...
>> of the language being used and plastered all over the media.
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>> I’m sick...
>> of no one being allowed to think what they want & feel what they do without offending someone.
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>> I’m sick...
>> of the people who are out there jumping on the bandwagon to protest just to cause mass confusion and more hatred and to riot, loot, and destroy.
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>> I’m sick...
>> of blaming the world for the sins of a few.
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>> I’m sick...
>> of people who think that 500-year old history is our fault... it’s history... get over it!
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>> You want to believe in God?
>> Okay, believe in God.
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>> You want to believe in magical creatures that fly around & sprinkle fairy dust
>> to make life better? Awesome... you do it!
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>> BUT how about being mature enough to be able to deal with the fact that everyone doesn’t have the same exact mind-set as you. Having our own minds is what makes us all individuals and beautiful. If you can’t handle that fact....I’m sorry!
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>> I don’t have to agree with everything you believe in however you will still be my friend.
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>> So be a decent human being.
>> Love one another, be kind, be humble
>> Be thankful, help a stranger and do a good deed!
>> Take care, stay well, and for goodness sake ..... find a way to be happy!