To IMPEACH ????

JLM

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So if Trump gets dumped, what happens next? Do the Republicans continue to run the show under Pence or do the Democrats take over? Do the Democrats have enough talent to run a capable Gov't? Would it not be much wiser just to wait under Nov. 3 and let due course sort it out? Could be a real dog's breakfast that will be entertaining to watch!
 

Dixie Cup

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He did release the transcript - the Dems just didn't expect him to and were caught lying - again!!
 

Hoid

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the white natty's live in perpetual fantasy.

they have to, since the world conspires against their every wish
 

Twin_Moose

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NYT starting to turn on the Dems. and impeachment?

Trump Acts Like a Politician. That’s Not an Impeachable Offense.

The way things look, President Trump will almost certainly not be removed from office. The precedents set by the articles of impeachment, however, will endure far longer. And regrettably, the House of Representatives has transformed presidential impeachment from a constitutional parachute — an emergency measure to save the Republic in free-fall — into a parliamentary vote of “no confidence.”
The House seeks to expel Mr. Trump because he acted “for his personal political benefit rather than for a legitimate policy purpose.” Mr. Trump’s lawyers responded, “elected officials almost always consider the effect that their conduct might have on the next election.” The president’s lawyers are right. And that behavior does not amount to an abuse of power.
Politicians pursue public policy, as they see it, coupled with a concern about their own political future. Otherwise legal conduct, even when plainly politically motivated — but without moving beyond a threshold of personal political gain — does not amount to an impeachable “abuse of power.” The House’s shortsighted standard will fail to knock out Mr. Trump but, if taken seriously, threatens to put virtually every elected official in peril. The voters, and not Congress, should decide whether to reward or punish this self-serving feature of our political order.
The first article of impeachment turns on President Trump’s request that President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine announce an investigation of Hunter Biden’s role with the energy company Burisma. Mr. Trump wanted to learn about potential financial corruption concerning Hunter, realizing that such an investigation would, perhaps, yield greater scrutiny of Joe Biden. The House argues that this request to potentially harm Mr. Trump’s political rival was an “abuse of power.”
Mr. Trump’s lawyers respond that the call was “perfectly normal.” Yes, that phrase actually appears in the brief. Regrettably, parts of the brief are written in a far-too-political tone. But the president’s lawyers have raised an important threshold issue.
“In a representative democracy,” they write, “elected officials almost always consider the effect that their conduct might have on the next election.”
President Trump did not stand to receive any money or property from the Ukrainian president. (The House wisely chose not to charge Mr. Trump with bribery.) As a policy matter, I disagree with Mr. Trump’s decision to ask for an investigation of the Bidens. Even if warranted, it should have been avoided at all reasonable costs. The Republic would have been fine if we never learned more about Burisma. But receiving a “personal political benefit” does not transform an otherwise legal action — requesting an investigation — into impeachable conduct...…..More
 

spilledthebeer

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I don't get it, in the face facts mean nothing.... I just don't get it.




IT IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND IF YOU RECOGNIZE THAT LIE-berals ARE LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING AT EVERY TURN!!!!!!


LIE-berals ARE COMPELLED TO LIE because the TRUTH WOULD NEVER WIN AN ELECTION!!!!!!!!


In the latest news - LIE-berals are DEMANDING THAT JOHN BOLTON TESTIFY


AND AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE REFUSING TO REQUIRE JOE BIDEN TO TESTIFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THERE IS NOTHING MORE HYPOCRITICAL THAN A LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All this impeachment crap got started over suspect BIDEN activities in Ukraine


and the govt over there HAS NOT BEEN FAMOUS FOR ITS PAST INTEGRITY and fair dealing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That LIE-berals REFUSE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS about Biden activities means IT IS ALL A FARCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berls are trying to force impeachment because they have NO VALID POLITICAL POLICY to attract votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Only by making Trump look worse than LIE-berals do gthey have ANY HOPE of winning votes!!!!!
 

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AnnaEmber

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Golf is the greatest game ever invented . A true golfer is one to be respected . . I don’t know if Trump is or isn’t one .
I think soccer is the best game. Hubby probably thinks rugby is. It's just opinion.

Biden is on record doing so , however .
Then impeach him. Neither Trump nor Biden are excuses for the other's behaviours.
 

AnnaEmber

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Funny you should mention golf, turns out he lies and cheats where golf in concerned too.

An excerpt from the book Commander in Cheat by Rick Reilly:

Somebody should write that the way Trump cheats at golf, lies about his courses, and stiffs his golf contractors isn’t that far from how he cheats on his wives, lies about his misdeeds, and stiffs the world on agreements America has already made on everything from Iran to climate change.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/apr/02/donald-trump-golf-28-club-championships
Why am I not surprised?