Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Colpy

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When such large majorities of citizens are asking for a a law it seems to me they would be likely to follow it.


Very, very few firearms licensees are asking for a new law, if any of them are.


As they are the only ones required to follow it...........a (very) large segment not following it kinda makes the law a exercise in futility.........to say nothing of counter-productive.


When the process of seizures is done, there will be tens of thousands more illegal rifles completely outside the law in Canada.


Tell me how that makes sense?

Insane, expensive, counter-productive virtue signalling by idiots is what this is.
 

spilledthebeer

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Banning handguns in major cities doesn't mean guns are bad.

It means handguns in cities is a bad idea.

Not sure why the people who live in a city can't decide for themselves.






POOR STUPID hemerHOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has not noticed ..............................................



A significant portion of the city population has already decided - **** YOU.............................


they WILL GO ARMED..................................................


AND THEY WILL SHOOT YOU IF YOU...........................


if you DISS THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What is it you dont understand about THAT FACT???????????????????????

 

spilledthebeer

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When such large majorities of citizens are asking for a a law it seems to me they would be likely to follow it.


Sadly our stupid hemerHOID DOES NOT REALIZE.....................................


that a large number of stinking LIE-beral hypocrites................................


DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A MAJORITY OF CDNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as we have seen in the recent election.....................................


a large number of LIE-berals..............................


does NOT EVEN CONSTITUTE A MAJORITY GOVT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hoid

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Very, very few firearms licensees are asking for a new law, if any of them are.


As they are the only ones required to follow it...........a (very) large segment not following it kinda makes the law a exercise in futility.........to say nothing of counter-productive.


When the process of seizures is done, there will be tens of thousands more illegal rifles completely outside the law in Canada.


Tell me how that makes sense?

Insane, expensive, counter-productive virtue signalling by idiots is what this is.
Public support for handgun bans is through the roof in Montreal and Toronto.

And you are merely implying a seizure.

Haven;t heard that word out of anyone but the gun nuts
 

taxslave

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We have bans. It called the Criminal Code of Canada.
This is what happens when you violate the "bans" we already have.
Any questions?
Nothing mostly. Unless you are a law abiding taxpayer protecting your property. Then look out. If the government doesn't take lock you up for decades they will endure you spend enough on lawyers to bankrupt yourself and destroy your life.Criminals just face a revolving door joke of a justice system.
 

taxslave

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Banning handguns in major cities doesn't mean guns are bad.
It means handguns in cities is a bad idea.
Not sure why the people who live in a city can't decide for themselves.
They have decided that they want to keep their guns. Why can't you let them decide for themselves instead of forcing an unworkable havebaked thought on them?
 

taxslave

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Public support for handgun bans is through the roof in Montreal and Toronto.
And you are merely implying a seizure.
Haven;t heard that word out of anyone but the gun nuts
Yes you and your kind are making a lot of noise. The vast majority however do not agree with your kind.
 

JamesBondo

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Half right. Better control. Let's start with the low hanging fruit shall we? Increase the punishment for using a gun to commit a crime, not making owning a gun a crime.


I think that is what happened with our drinking driving/ car ownership problems.
 

Colpy

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GUNTER: Trudeau's AR-15 ban is about perception, not reality

Lorne Gunter

Published: October 4, 2019
Updated: October 4, 2019 4:37 PM EDT





Being frightened because law-abiding Canadians own “assault” rifles is just as irrational (and just as prejudiced) as worrying about men with long, dark beards and kufis moving into your neighbourhood.


Just because a gun looks scary doesn’t make it a threat to public safety any more than looking Muslim makes someone a terrorist.
Yet scary looks – superficial features – are the motivation for the Liberals’ campaign promise to ban AR-15s and other “military-style assault rifles.”


I’m not a gun owner. Guns interest me purely on a political/philosophical level: I don’t trust any government that doesn’t trust my law-abiding neighbours to own guns. (Who’s in charge here, anyway?)


Being a non-owner means I don’t instantly understand the mechanics of firearms. But when I don’t understand, unlike a Liberal prime minister, I ask, I don’t assume.




And lots of people with a very much better understanding of guns have told me there are plenty of rifles that look more like hunting guns than army guns, yet nonetheless have the same firepower and capacity as AR-15s.


In other words, how a gun looks has little to do with how it performs relative to other models.


But the Liberals are proposing to ban certain models based solely on looks. That means the government is not serious about public safety. They are not worried about the potential of some guns to cause more death and destruction than other guns. They’re just worried about perceptions.


They are not banning AR-15s because they have been involved in a lot of crimes or because, in and of themselves, they are especially dangerous. If the Trudeau-ites were serious, they’d ban deer-hunting variants of the AR-15 with similar innards but without the military-looking muzzles, grips and sights. The deer-hunters fire just as many bullets just as fast and just as powerfully.


Instead, the Liberals’ intent is solely to make some grand symbolic gesture. They want to be able to boast to uninformed voters that they are taking steps to make them safer.


The Liberal policy will do nothing to stop criminals. It will amount to nothing more than virtue signalling that costs taxpayers hundreds of millions and confiscates private property from law-abiding gun owners who are no threat to anyone.


Toronto may have a gun crime problem (which I’m pretty sure is why this issue has even been raised during the campaign). So far this year there have been 342 shootings in Canada’s largest city. That’s more than all of last year.


But most of those are related to the drug trade or some other crime, and most involve handguns almost certainly acquired illegally from the U.S.


So just what good will it do to take away an AR-15 from a recreational shooter in Cape Breton? Moreover, how is it fair to the Cape Breton gun owner to be punished for gang violence in T.O.?


There are around 60,000 AR-15s registered in Canada right now. If they were ever going to be a threat to public safety, they would be already. So doesn’t it stand to reason that if that many “scary” guns aren’t currently a threat, then banning them will be meaningless?
Another thing, the Liberals’ math on their proposed buyback of assault rifles doesn’t add up.


The Liberals have proposed spending $250 million tax dollars to pay current legal owners to turn over their AR-15s and other assault rifles. That’s $250 million for more than 60,000 guns.


The New Zealand government tried something similar this spring after the appalling mass murder of 51 people at two mosques in Christchurch. Except they set aside approximately $160 million Canadian for 14,000 guns.


That’s nearly three times as much per gun, yet owners still would not give up their rifles.


https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-trudeaus-ar-15-ban-is-about-perception-not-reality


An exceptionally good article.
 

Danbones

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So we only create laws that criminals will follow?
That's going to be tough.
That statement ought to win a prize for being the exact opposite of smart.

If a person is following the law, they aren't a criminal.
DUH!!!!!​


;)
Even, as we see with Trump, when you make up all the evidence.
 

Hoid

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In Montreal the crux of the matter is being brought to the forefront.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/montreal-opposition-wants-handgun-ban-criticizes-trudeau-1.4673236

"We asked the federal government to ban the private possession of handguns, but Mr. Trudeau wants to give that responsibility to the cities, who don't have the power to apply it," he argued in a press release. "What's stopping people from procuring a gun in neighbouring cities? If the federal government doesn't ban handguns everywhere, it's a waste of time."

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While technically true there is no way to bring a federal gun ban in unless the local ones are in first.
 

Hoid

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You don't have to.

The vast majority of Canadians do not have a gun and will never have a gun.
 

Colpy

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petros

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Public support for handgun bans is through the roof in Montreal and Toronto.
And you are merely implying a seizure.
Haven;t heard that word out of anyone but the gun nuts
Do you have visions of licensed owners lining up to turn in guns and a door to door sweep to round up unlicensed guns?