To IMPEACH ????

[Serryah]

I don't know how old you are, but I'd guess I have 25 - 30 years on you and during my time on the planet people have never on average had as much as they do today. Sure due to drugs there are a lot at rock bottom, but that is a choice they made. The rest of us are doing fairly well by comparison to the way things were 60 years ago, when typically kids in school wore patched hand me downs when often the youngest kid in the family seldom wore a new piece of apparel. Just to eat in a restaurant two or three times a year was a luxury. You certainly didn't see many people with $1000 tattoos. It's a different world today. But where has it got us? About 10 times the amount of mental illness today. Autism and Bi polar were unknown in the those day or at least not recognized. When I was in school there were three classifications Smart, Average and Dumb! Nice chatting with you, hope you are benefitting!

I did mention that you make wicked assumptions but maybe you should question first before making them. It's not likely you have such an age gap on me, otherwise, you'd be dead.


I'll totally agree, there are some people - lots even - that have more today than they had years ago. Even when I was a kid while all the others wore Nike or Reebok, I had LA Gear and Brooks, low brand jeans, etc. and so on.


But that was then; change happens and sometimes it's good, sometimes not so good.


That doesn't mean everyone has it good; it just means you are blinding yourself to reality.


Yeah it's a different world today; people put themselves into debt more to 'have better' because not having better is just not done. Your ignorant belief that there is more mental illness today than years ago is just that, ignorant. Things like Autism, Bipolarism, Schizophrenia, MPD, etc. all happened, they just didn't have individual diagnoses. Learning and study expanded understanding of such things.


Your ignorance and lack of advancement with the reality of the world pretty much shows itself with posts like this.


The world isn't the same as it was when you were a kid, when I was a kid, and it won't be the same with my nieces grow up and they have kids.


As much as you want to stuff things into the bottle and return it to 'simpler' times, that's not going to happen. Adapt or don't, but you've no right to impose your lack of understanding on the rest of us.

 

[JLM]

I did mention that you make wicked assumptions but maybe you should question first before making them. It's not likely you have such an age gap on me, otherwise, you'd be dead.


I'll totally agree, there are some people - lots even - that have more today than they had years ago. Even when I was a kid while all the others wore Nike or Reebok, I had LA Gear and Brooks, low brand jeans, etc. and so on.


But that was then; change happens and sometimes it's good, sometimes not so good.


That doesn't mean everyone has it good; it just means you are blinding yourself to reality.


Yeah it's a different world today; people put themselves into debt more to 'have better' because not having better is just not done. Your ignorant belief that there is more mental illness today than years ago is just that, ignorant. Things like Autism, Bipolarism, Schizophrenia, MPD, etc. all happened, they just didn't have individual diagnoses. Learning and study expanded understanding of such things.


Your ignorance and lack of advancement with the reality of the world pretty much shows itself with posts like this.


The world isn't the same as it was when you were a kid, when I was a kid, and it won't be the same with my nieces grow up and they have kids.


As much as you want to stuff things into the bottle and return it to 'simpler' times, that's not going to happen. Adapt or don't, but you've no right to impose your lack of understanding on the rest of us.

Don't jump to conclusions...………...I'm under no illusion that we'll ever be going back to the way things were, it's just the environment my generation grew up in. There's likely a lot of things where I lack understanding (especially science and technology today) but as far as day to day living goes, I don't think so. I have three kids and 7 grandchildren so I don't miss too much.

 

[Serryah]

Don't jump to conclusions...………...I'm under no illusion that we'll ever be going back to the way things were, it's just the environment my generation grew up in. There's likely a lot of things where I lack understanding (especially science and technology today) but as far as day to day living goes, I don't think so. I have three kids and 7 grandchildren so I don't miss too much.

And yet, you do.


You don't think people still live paycheck to paycheck, or work more than one job to actually afford to live.


To me that shows a distinct lack of missing out of a lot.

 

[JLM]

And yet, you do.


You don't think people still live paycheck to paycheck, or work more than one job to actually afford to live.


To me that shows a distinct lack of missing out of a lot.

I'm aware of most of it. I have kids and grandkids who are struggling and some with modern day issues too.
Unless you are living in a monastery you can't help but be aware of current situation. Walk four blocks of the main street here and there isn't much you don't see.

 

[JLM]

And yet, you do.


You don't think people still live paycheck to paycheck, or work more than one job to actually afford to live.


To me that shows a distinct lack of missing out of a lot.

When you ASSUME, that can make an Ass out of you and me! Remember that!

 

[Serryah]

I'm aware of most of it. I have kids and grandkids who are struggling and some with modern day issues too.
Unless you are living in a monastery you can't help but be aware of current situation. Walk four blocks of the main street here and there isn't much you don't see.

So why do you think people don't live paycheck to paycheck? That people aren't working just to live?


Why are you in denial of so much?

 

[Serryah]

When you ASSUME, that can make an Ass out of you and me! Remember that!

I do; reading your Assumptions, I'm reminded every time of it.

 

[JLM]

So why do you think people don't live paycheck to paycheck? That people aren't working just to live?


Why are you in denial of so much?

I'm not denying anything. Of course I know lots of people live paycheque to paycheque including my own kids and grandkids. It's just a different standard of living today. I'll give you a little hint so maybe you'll understand. Check the amount of garbage people put out on garbage collection day, some of them are throwing more stuff away in a week than my parents threw out in a year. Maybe that will give you a clue!

 

[Serryah]

I'm not denying anything. Of course I know lots of people live paycheque to paycheque including my own kids and grandkids. It's just a different standard of living today. I'll give you a little hint so maybe you'll understand. Check the amount of garbage people put out on garbage collection day, some of them are throwing more stuff away in a week than my parents threw out in a year. Maybe that will give you a clue!

Some people do, yes.


And in my area, a lot of them don't.


I guess it all depends on where you live.


But I'd have to disagree that you aren't 'denying' anything; you certainly are. You said people don't work "just to live" anymore.


I guarantee that there are many people who DO work to live. Saying it doesn't happen is denying it.

 

[JLM]

Some people do, yes.


And in my area, a lot of them don't.


I guess it all depends on where you live.


But I'd have to disagree that you aren't 'denying' anything; you certainly are. You said people don't work "just to live" anymore.


I guarantee that there are many people who DO work to live. Saying it doesn't happen is denying it.

You are missing the whole point so there's not much use in explaining anything to you. One example "just to live" doesn't include buying disposable diapers, "just to live" doesn't include buying processed food in cans and jars. Half the money people spend today goes on packaging. People spend $20 to ship a $10 Xmas gift - that's the sort of shit I see a lot of.

 

[Serryah]

You are missing the whole point so there's not much use in explaining anything to you. One example "just to live" doesn't include buying disposable diapers, "just to live" doesn't include buying processed food in cans and jars. Half the money people spend today goes on packaging. People spend $20 to ship a $10 Xmas gift - that's the sort of shit I see a lot of.

I think you are the one missing the point.


I don't deny there are people who DO live beyond their means, more than just to live.


But there are many out there who ARE just to live. Who can just barely afford the apartment they live in, and food and that's it. People who have no car, no cell phone, they might have a very old computer, they don't have extra money to spend on much of anything, let alone even Christmas gifts.


You deny they exist. I know for a fact they do.


Just to live means a roof over your head, food to eat and maybe enough to pay bills in part, or maybe not at all.


I KNOW people who live like that.


So no, JLM, I'm not denying anything or missing the point. You, sadly, are.

 

[Curious Cdn]

I think you are the one missing the point.
I don't deny there are people who DO live beyond their means, more than just to live.
But there are many out there who ARE just to live. Who can just barely afford the apartment they live in, and food and that's it. People who have no car, no cell phone, they might have a very old computer, they don't have extra money to spend on much of anything, let alone even Christmas gifts.
You deny they exist. I know for a fact they do.
Just to live means a roof over your head, food to eat and maybe enough to pay bills in part, or maybe not at all.
I KNOW people who live like that.
So no, JLM, I'm not denying anything or missing the point. You, sadly, are.

He's on a civil service pension. The reality of most Canadians is far, far away from that.

 

[Danbones]

No, we the people pay well and are considered a classy employer.

we know how you commies hate that though being nazis and globalists and all...

Just the thought of jumping up and stealing all that pension money makes you little baalsox glo!

 

[JLM]

He's on a civil service pension. The reality of most Canadians is far, far away from that.

For some, definitely, but hardly for most. Have you not heard of private company pensions? Have you not heard of R.R.S.P.s? Have you not heard of T.F.S.A.s? Civil Service pensions are NOT a large pension by comparison UNLESS you worked for 35 years at a highly paid position, OR you were a politician, then the pension is quite livable. If you weren't high paid or worked the full 35 years, then at best you just got enough to scrape by. I managed to supplement mine by an extra $6000 a year by paying into RRSPs for about 20 years. Of course everyone gets the O.A.P. at 65 which we all paid into and many of those of us who worked get the C.P.P. which pays a maximum of about $800 a month for those who were in the highest wage bracket for 40 years. My wife worked outside the home for 6 years, making beds- her C.P.P. is about $44 a month. So I have some valuable advice for you C.C. Do some research on any subject that you feel inclined to open your big trap about, which you are inclined to do.

 

[Twin_Moose]

If the US citizens are getting more supportive of Trump.........then America has changed from a Republic to something unknown .......but leaning towards an authoritarian regime. They are defying the constitution and want to follow Trump into even more chaos.
The nations that used to rely on the US .....are left in uncertainly. Same with nations that used to collaborate effectively with the US........
The US has to make up it's little mind as to whether it wants have influence (positive) on the world stage or not..........so the rest of the world can adjust , make new alliances, and watch another nation emerge as a leading power. Trump's mental chaos and actions by extension of same........is crating havoc ........He has no respect for any other nation except the dictatorships. In turn the world no longer respects him.........and his fanatical followers. Heck......even Kim is more mature than trump. .......Trump is a hand grenade on the planet and it goes off each time he tweets or talks.He is TOXIC beyond description
But watch to see how far he will go to maintain power.........and those voting on the impeachment.......will have to choose between a vile ineffective person and their nation..... If they choose the man........they will be tainted for a long time in the future Those that vote to clear him........will define the direction of the US .....

Nov. 2020 will give you all the answers you desire, voters will either Impeach Trump or reward him with a Dem. minority in both houses of Congress.

 

[JLM]

Some people do, yes.


And in my area, a lot of them don't.


I guess it all depends on where you live.


But I'd have to disagree that you aren't 'denying' anything; you certainly are. You said people don't work "just to live" anymore.


I guarantee that there are many people who DO work to live. Saying it doesn't happen is denying it.

Stay tuned for the real picture. While there are many who work just to survive and I've never said differently, most today are living fairly high on the hog. I do most of the grocery shopping for my family and I'm in the supermarkets about twice a week. To be quite frank MOST of the shelves in the Supermarkets aren't stocked with the bare essentials to survive. Often I'm in a line up at the cashier and see the shit that passes through, like pop, chips, cheesies, sugar laden juices, sugar laden bakery items, a lot of stuff in jars and tin cans and as I've already told you disposable diapers. On top of all that it was recently reported on the news that about 56% of groceries today end up in the land fills. I'll admit there are a lot of people who buy the essentials like flour, sugar, cornstarch, oatmeal, rice, potatoes, ground beef, sausages, bacon, eggs, onions, carrots and peas - all the things required just to survive, but there's no need to bull shit me that this is the way a lot of families are living today because they are NOT. Just to give you one more clue look at the size of land fills today compared with 60 years ago. On top of all that, for the ones who are really struggling there are the food banks! We live in a land of plenty.

 

[Danbones]

In my town food banks give about a week's ( single or family) food per month, total. There are a couple of community lunches per week, but the rest of time it is ketchup sammiches for a lot of kids.

..and while the food is basically considered "staples", real research will show that they are NOT all that healthy for heart and diabetes people, nor for growing children either.

 

[pgs]

The proof?

Every witness provided the proof.

That's why they are impeaching him.

Hearsay and innuendo, is not proof . But keep trying it looks good on you .

 

[pgs]

The situation is obvious......to anyone who's brain has not been snatched.

The concerning thing is that so many don't even want to recognize that he did something wrong.........and blindly defend him..........Which is what he wants. History will not look kindly on the Trump republicans........as the US gets further along
It could go two wasy........the path of Trump where any and all unethical, questionably legal, and immoral behaviour is just fine by the POTUS............OR do a major correction course with some serious intelligence at the helm.

It is hard to believe taht so many literally go against the constitution, the law, and any ethical standards... and yet it happening in fron tof oureyes.

Trump's pathology has infested the brains of a lot of his followers. A larger manifestation than Jim Jones.........but the principle is the same. But Republicans........what has happened to them collectively is astonishing.......They have chosen to lose their individual identities and are now as one with Trump. That is how effective a sociopath can be

That was Jone's power and that is Trump power. Because so many are not all that well educated.......they are not able to see his behavior as dysfunctional........on multiple levels.

So did you see the tape of Joe Biden bragging about withholding military aid to Ukraine while he was VP ? Was that an illegal or impeachable act ?

 

[pgs]

WTF has Dow Jones got to do with anything? Up or Down, I honestly don't care and no I don't think it has anything to do with the President, at least, not as the only thing factoring into it. Stocks are not that simple


As for Employment... sure it's up; how many of that are full time jobs? How much of that increased employment is from workers only working that one job and not having to work multiple?


Same thing here in Canada; people having to work several jobs just to live does NOT a good economy make, IMO.


Look I know you just love assuming things but maybe instead of assuming, ask first so you look less of an idiot when you're wrong. Unless you like looking like an idiot in which case continue on.

Wages rising faster for blue collar jobs then white collar . Highest labour participation ever . BTW while America , our largest trading partner is experiencing record job growth our economy is shedding jobs .