Why one N.W.T. teen is suing the Canadian government over climate change inaction

Serryah

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Are they valid reason for you to stubbornly hang onto the dirtiest forms of heat and hot water?

Why not burn tires and save up to get out of the 1800s? It's not dirtier than what you are doing now.


What part of "not your business" did you not get?


I'm not able to afford it, that's all you need to know. Sorry you don't seem to comprehend that part.
 

taxslave

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Clean, safe and reliable? Okay, sure, maybe reliable but clean and safe I question, especially safe.
That's on me, not you.
I said maybe to those, I don't know. For now it's not worth thinking about.
Too expensive isn't BS at all. I'm glad you have money to toss around. I don't. I certainly don't want anyone else to 'buy it' for me. Hence why I don't have any other options than what I currently have.
Not sure why you would be afraid of Natural gas for heat/hot water. It is about as safe as you can get. Safer than standing in the sun. Oil too for that matter. There are more safety systems on a furnace than the space shuttles.
 

taxslave

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THere is something from the 60s that all these globull warming protesters need to be reminded of.


Before you tear something down you had best have a replacement for it. And it better be viable.
 

petros

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What part of "not your business" did you not get?
I'm not able to afford it, that's all you need to know. Sorry you don't seem to comprehend that part.
What's the fear with gas heat?

What makes me having to fund bullshit lawsuits your business?
 

Serryah

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What's the fear with gas heat?

What makes me having to fund bullshit lawsuits your business?


What makes "us" having to fund the bullshit lawsuits our business...


Fixed it.


I don't think it's bullshit. We'll see how it turns out.
 

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Let's tell the whole truth about 'average' global temperature rises

If you read the recent headlines about how Canada’s temperature is rising more than twice as fast as the average, you probably believed it, as I did at first, and concluded that Canada is facing a unique emergency.

But the same headline recently appeared for many other countries, all warming at twice the average: Australia, Finland, China, Sweden, Russia, Britain, all of Europe, Singapore and Japan. How can all these countries be warming twice as fast as the average? It brings to mind Garrison Keillor’s fictional Lake Wobegon, where “all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average.” Surprisingly, these media stories are neither a joke nor a mistake. As I first learned from Prof. Ross McKitrick of the University of Guelph, they are a basically trivial fact, turned into a frightening story by deceptively vague language.

The CBC’s version of the story read: “Canada is, on average, experiencing warming at twice the rate of the rest of the world, with Northern Canada heating up at almost three times the global average, according to a new government report.” The report in question, Canada’s Changing Climate Report (CCCR), was commissioned by Environment and Climate Change Canada. Remarkably similar news appeared regarding Finland: “Finland is warming fast — faster than scientists ever predicted and at nearly twice the rate of any other country on Earth — according to new research from the University of Eastern Finland and the Finnish Meteorological Society.”

And there have been similar stories for several other countries. If you’re interested, just google these headlines:

Australia temperatures rising faster than rest of the world: official report

China warming faster than global average

Temperature in Sweden rising faster than world’s average

Russia Is warming disproportionately fast, environment ministry says

Britain warming faster than average

IPCC: Europe has been warming faster than the global average

Why Singapore is heating up twice as fast as the rest of the world

Japan hot and getting hotter

Everybody, it seems, is warming faster than average.

Is all this just fake news? No, it’s all true. How is that possible? It’s possible because of the word “average.” The average referred to is the average temperature of the entire planet. The assertion is not that any country is warming twice as fast as the average of every other country. Rather, it is that the country in question is warming faster than the average temperature of the entire planet. But the entire planet is not just the land countries sit on, it is the land and the oceans. And, as we all learned in elementary school, the Earth is 70 per cent ocean.

According to NASA, from 1881 to today the oceans’ surface has warmed about 0.6 degrees C while the land has warmed about 1.8 degrees C. Using the 70/30 ratio, combined warming has been 1.0 degrees C. If every country warmed at exactly the same rate they would all be warming at 1.8 times the global average. But higher latitude regions warm faster than the tropics. With that adjustment for latitude, we can see that any country outside the tropics will warm approximately twice as fast as the (land and ocean) average of the entire planet.

All of these media stories convey the same political message: because the country in question is warming at twice the (unspecified) average, that makes it doubly urgent for it to cut its greenhouse emissions quickly, compared with all the other countries. This politically manufactured emergency pressures frightened voters (and their even more frightened children) to accept whatever measures the government may propose to reduce CO2 emissions. It also enhances the budgets and influence of the country’s environmental politicians and bureaucrats.

If we are really to have “evidence-based policies,” as the Trudeau government has so often proclaimed, we need an honest discussion of the evidence. If governments want to use changes in average temperatures to justify higher carbon taxes and the like, they should tell us exactly what they mean by apparently simple terms like “average.”

theprovince.com/opinion/opinion-lets-tell-the-whole-truth-about-average-global-temperature-rises/wcm/8fbca200-4d6b-4217-aafe-4fe7577a8be6
 

petros

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It brings to mind Garrison Keillor’s fictional Lake Wobegon, where “all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average.”
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DaSleeper

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Dunno if it's age related or because some years ago I lost a good 65 lbs of fat to get in shape but now I have to run the thermostat a good 2 Celsius degrees higher than I used to to keep warm.
Fat must be a good insulator....

One way or another ya gotta pay...........



Global warming.....bring it on!
 

Twin_Moose

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Clean, safe and reliable? Okay, sure, maybe reliable but clean and safe I question, especially safe.
That's on me, not you.
I said maybe to those, I don't know. For now it's not worth thinking about.
Too expensive isn't BS at all. I'm glad you have money to toss around. I don't. I certainly don't want anyone else to 'buy it' for me. Hence why I don't have any other options than what I currently have.

There are all kinds of grants, both Federal and Provincial, to upgrade your home for energy efficiency. To blame others for not being environmentally conscience, while not doing it yourself, is in itself hypocritical. If one wants the world to do something about CC because it is obvious, while not doing everything in one's own life to make the change is words without commitment. It's the same rhetoric spoken by all snowflakes that say they are doing their part by telling you to change because your Carbon footprint is bigger than mine, see Hoid in the Tesla thread for an example.
 

Twin_Moose

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There is nothing wrong with the planet at present. If they screw up the future it's on them.
I had my home B&E'd today. Can I sue the cops because they never stopped it before hand?

Let's make it a class action, Wednesday night they tried stealing my camper and ransacked it, gotta be the RCMP's fault they shoulda prevented it.
 

petros

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Let's make it a class action, Wednesday night they tried stealing my camper and ransacked it, gotta be the RCMP's fault they shoulda prevented it.
Of course they should have. With 3 rezes full of nothing but angels within spitting distance they have nothing to do.
 

spilledthebeer

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Dunno if it's age related or because some years ago I lost a good 65 lbs of fat to get in shape but now I have to run the thermostat a good 2 Celsius degrees higher than I used to to keep warm.
Fat must be a good insulator....

One way or another ya gotta pay...........



Global warming.....bring it on!


Or it could be just aging weather stripping.................................


and dried out caulking around windows and doors.............................


letting in more drafts?????????????????????????