American Culture of Violence & It's Related Politics

Serryah

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I'm not. I'm pretty indifferent to what particular flavor of crazy motivates this or that shooter.

I do know that social control helps to shift the curve in the right direction.

And deliberately getting folk het up shifts it in the wrong direction.

Overall while I'd agree about being indifferent, I also can't help but still wonder, if only to know why, especially where there's the accusation that they were left leaning.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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There were a lot of random shootings in Toronto during the "Caribana" weekend jus passed ...seems to happen every Caribana weekend. There were no fstalities.
OK, Canadians are lousy shots.

Gun crime here, according to what the police seize, involves about 50% smuggled arms from the US and 50% legally registered but stolen or illegally re-sold firearms. One of the big differences between the shooters here and those south of the border is knowledge. Guns here are in the hands of gang-banger kids, loaded with arrogance but clueless about guns. The weekly mass murderer down in the States typically is highly trained and practiced ... a "professional" gunman if it is possible to qualify for such. They don't miss. They kill with great efficiency.
You're nuts. Neither of the two recent shooters, nor the Parkland kid, nor Dylann Roof was "professional" in any sense.

The "Jamaican salute" guys are rank amateurs, just showing off to their fellow pea brains. American killers are completely focussed and they get the job done!
Yankee know-how!!
Not really. Our gangbangers are as incompetent as yours.
 

NZDoug

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No need to import, NZ has enough homegrown loonies like everywhere else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_New_Zealand
Since 1950, NZ has 51 people killed, a lot did or still do have mental problems, and they lament their days in jail.
The 1950, the other massacres were done by military troops against the native people, 1200 killed, in the siege of Pukerangiora, and the invasion of the Chatham Islands were 2000 people were killed, again by British military troops.
As I've said before, since the Christchurch massacre where 51 people also were killed, done via Australian white supremacist. 6 days after the massacre,New Zealand and acted and banned AutoMatic weapons.
We are doing our best to promote a fair and just society.
Ask yourself, why are people immigrating?
Most are victims of American wars or refugees from areas inundated with climate change problems, which doest exist in the minds of deluded.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Since 1950, NZ has 51 people killed, a lot did or still do have mental problems, and they lament their days in jail.
The 1950, the other massacres were done by military troops against the native people, 1200 killed, in the siege of Pukerangiora, and the invasion of the Chatham Islands were 2000 people were killed, again by British military troops.
As I've said before, since the Christchurch massacre where 51 people also were killed, done via Australian white supremacist. 6 days after the massacre,New Zealand and acted and banned AutoMatic weapons.
We are doing our best to promote a fair and just society.
Ask yourself, why are people immigrating?
Most are victims of American wars or refugees from areas inundated with climate change problems, which doest exist in the minds of deluded.
Glad we could help.
 

DaSleeper

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There were a lot of random shootings in Toronto during the "Caribana" weekend jus passed ...seems to happen every Caribana weekend. There were no fstalities.
Gun crime here, according to what the police seize, involves about 50% smuggled arms from the US and 50% legally registered but stolen or illegally re-sold firearms. One of the big differences between the shooters here and those south of the border is knowledge. Guns here are in the hands of gang-banger kids, loaded with arrogance but clueless about guns. The weekly mass murderer down in the States typically is highly trained and practiced ... a "professional" gunman if it is possible to qualify for such. They don't miss. They kill with great efficiency. The "Jamaican salute" guys are rank amateurs, just showing off to their fellow pea brains. American killers are completely focussed and they get the job done!

Yankee know-how!!
In Toronto I believe that you are more in danger of getting shot by someone you know who thinks you wronged him, than a stranger....
I may kid a lot but I I'm not scared of taking a walk unarmed after dark in most districts with just a few exceptions ....
 

pgs

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In Toronto I believe that you are more in danger of getting shot by someone you know who thinks you wronged him, than a stranger....
I may kid a lot but I I'm not scared of taking a walk unarmed after dark in most districts with just a few exceptions ....
There are always exceptions .
 

Cliffy

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Tecumsehsbones

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OK, Canadians are lousy shots.
It is NOT a joking matter.
Yes it is. It's called "gallows humor" and it can be of great help in the darkest times.

After one of the worst nights of the Blitz, the London Times ran a headline that read "Temper Temper, Mr. Hitler."

A smile, even a grim smile, in the face of catastrophe is a worthy thing.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Yes it is. It's called "gallows humor" and it can be of great help in the darkest times.

After one of the worst nights of the Blitz, the London Times ran a headline that read "Temper Temper, Mr. Hitler."

A smile, even a grim smile, in the face of catastrophe is a worthy thing.
Do you have gallows humor for all those that got shot _killed this past weekend??
 

Ocean Breeze

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We seem to less determined. Not many of us are either knowledgeable enough nor driven enough to kill dozens in minutes, it would seem.
Our general philosophy ab out weapons is totally different from those to the south of us. Possessing weapons is not a bloody right........it is merely an option. It should never be a "right"........ We do not live in some barbaric historical era. The issue was made into a right at the beginning of the country whenit was wild, and a lot of natives were killed...... Perhaps the "right" was designed to protect the white man against the natives .....the original AMERICANS.

I was very ;saddened to hear about the events in TO......
 

Curious Cdn

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Our general philosophy ab out weapons is totally different from those to the south of us. Possessing weapons is not a bloody right........it is merely an option. It should never be a "right"........ We do not live in some barbaric historical era. The issue was made into a right at the beginning of the country whenit was wild, and a lot of natives were killed...... Perhaps the "right" was designed to protect the white man against the natives .....the original AMERICANS.
I was very ;saddened to hear about the events in TO......
I hope that it's an anomaly.

I give Toronto a wide birth, anyway.
 

pgs

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Our general philosophy ab out weapons is totally different from those to the south of us. Possessing weapons is not a bloody right........it is merely an option. It should never be a "right"........ We do not live in some barbaric historical era. The issue was made into a right at the beginning of the country whenit was wild, and a lot of natives were killed...... Perhaps the "right" was designed to protect the white man against the natives .....the original AMERICANS.

I was very ;saddened to hear about the events in TO......
You know nothing , get out of downtown and talk with rural Canadians maybe they have a different opinion .