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Somehow you seem adept at using some kind of grammatical calculus and sophistry to totally misrepresent my opinions. I have never stated pedophilia was 'okay'. I have stated by far and away the Church's primary problem is pederasty, the abuse of vulnerable teenage boys by predatory, homosexual priest imposters.


Stop.


Full stop.

For the last time - Homosexuality does NOT EQUAL PEDOPHILE. If you can't even get that common logic, common sense and actual truth through your thick skull, there's no reason to continue any discussion with you.

That said, the fact you make comparisons between the pedophilia in the church and assaults in the church to be LESS than homosexuality gives a good indication that yes, you think it's 'okay' since those two disgusting things are 'less' than being gay. All of it is abhorrent, yes, but being gay is the 'worst' of it all.

That makes you an effin monster, IMO.
 

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Stop.


Full stop.

For the last time - Homosexuality does NOT EQUAL PEDOPHILE. If you can't even get that common logic, common sense and actual truth through your thick skull, there's no reason to continue any discussion with you.

That said, the fact you make comparisons between the pedophilia in the church and assaults in the church to be LESS than homosexuality gives a good indication that yes, you think it's 'okay' since those two disgusting things are 'less' than being gay. All of it is abhorrent, yes, but being gay is the 'worst' of it all.

That makes you an effin monster, IMO.




Oh........Serryah..............you are just confusing Coldstream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


His bible states that homosexuality is a sin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


but it says NOTHING about diddling children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently God thought it would be obvious that children should not be molested and thus did not specifically prohibit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now Coldstream is frantically trying to protect his DISGRACED CHURCH.........by hiding behind shameless excuses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Coldstream is a religious loon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The really SAD thing is that it is the kind of values held by such as Coldstream that are responsible for so much injury to the Church in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

coldstream

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Stop.


Full stop.

For the last time - Homosexuality does NOT EQUAL PEDOPHILE. If you can't even get that common logic, common sense and actual truth through your thick skull, there's no reason to continue any discussion with you.

That said, the fact you make comparisons between the pedophilia in the church and assaults in the church to be LESS than homosexuality gives a good indication that yes, you think it's 'okay' since those two disgusting things are 'less' than being gay. All of it is abhorrent, yes, but being gay is the 'worst' of it all.

That makes you an effin monster, IMO.

In a religious sense, homosexuality will always be an abomination in the sight of God (it doesn't seem to matter what religion) and in a secular sense it is a manifestation of a profoundly disordered psychology For the individual, in practice, it is a mortal sin OR a pathology of psychic dissolution.

For a nation that subscribes to its normalization and institutionalization in its written codes, it is planting its constitutional foundations in the shifting soil and building its structure in contravention of the moral architecture of the universe.

There are consequences for both which the modern zeitgeist will provide no mitigation. Full Stop.

Frankly your strange semantic gymnastics do not make any sense, Serryah. I condemn pedophilia, pederasty and homosexuality as predatory and abusive. All the practitioners of such have carved out their own space in hell. Period.
 
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Serryah

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In a religious sense, homosexuality will always be an abomination in the sight of God (it doesn't seem to matter what religion) and in a secular sense it is a manifestation of a profoundly disordered psychology For the individual, in practice, it is a mortal sin OR a pathology of psychic dissolution.


If you worship the single God, that's only partly true regardless, as there are those who worship the Abrahamic God and accept homosexuality. Instances in the Bible also make question of the presence of it. Right or wrong, it's not ultimately for you to judge, but God.

As for your insistence it was an abomination regardless of what religion - wrong.

https://religionnews.com/2015/06/30...uality-plus-their-reactions-to-scotus-ruling/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT-affirming_religious_groups


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/21/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/


http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/07/religious-groups-official-positions-on-same-sex-marriage/


https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-religions-that-allow-or-encourage-homosexuality


So, there's some places to start.



For a nation that subscribes to its normalization and institutionalization in its written codes, it is planting its constitutional foundations in the shifting soil and building its structure in contravention of the moral architecture of the universe.

How so? Just because YOU believe being gay is evil, doesn't make it so. Also, Canada hasn't gone down the crapper because of "Teh ghey". It's got more stupid reasons to go down the shitter.



There are consequences for both which the modern zeitgeist will provide no mitigation. Full Stop.

Again, how so? And how does that connect to homosexuality? Homosexuality has been around since animals walked the earth and humans dropped down from the trees. It's not just a 'modern concept'.

Frankly your strange semantic gymnastics do not make any sense, Serryah. I condemn pedophilia, pederasty and homosexuality as predatory and abusive. All the practitioners of such have carved out their own space in hell. Period.

Yes, you do condemn them, BUT you also said that pedophilia and pederasty are NOT AS BAD as homosexuality.

Again, your own freakin words:

It's you who does not understand the most critical problems in the priesthood of the Latin Church. It is homosexuality. There are plenty of other outrages and abuses, including pedophilia and abusive use of an office for heterosexual gratification, but these likely are proportionally small representations in comparison to the society at large. Not so with homosexuality. It is the elephant in the room of the Catholic Church and by far and away its most corrosive element.


Those are your exact words, Coldstream.

Pedophilia and sexual abuse are wrong, but being gay is WORSE.
 

coldstream

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If you worship the single God, that's only partly true regardless, as there are those who worship the Abrahamic God and accept homosexuality. Instances in the Bible also make question of the presence of it. Right or wrong, it's not ultimately for you to judge, but God.


So, there's some places to start

How so? Just because YOU believe being gay is evil, doesn't make it so. Also, Canada hasn't gone down the crapper because of "Teh ghey". It's got more stupid reasons to go down the shitter.

Again, how so? And how does that connect to homosexuality? Homosexuality has been around since animals walked the earth and humans dropped down from the trees. It's not just a 'modern concept'.

Yes, you do condemn them, BUT you also said that pedophilia and pederasty are NOT AS BAD as homosexuality.
Again, your own freakin words:

Those are your exact words, Coldstream.

Pedophilia and sexual abuse are wrong, but being gay is WORSE.


Homosexuality in practice is evil. I've never said homosexuals are evil. They are however responsible for the evil they inflict on others and themselves. In orientation homosexuality it is profoundly disordered. When have I placed pedophilia or pederasty in any relative ordering of hierarchy of sins in relation to homosexuality. They are all part of a fundamental rebellion against natural and supernatural law. Pederasty in quite clearly an particularly deviant and predatory expression of homosexuality, but it all starts with failing to conform to a absolute moral vision. Once that goes there is nothing to stop a fall into a predatory debauchery.

Homosexuality is limited in the natural world to Human Beings. The only creature capable of knowledge of good and evil, and the will to choose between the two. And Canada through it naïve and politically correct rejection of the codes of its founding faith and in conjunction with meaningless aphorisms of 'diversity, inclusion, tolerance' in which anything goes and all opposition to it is labeled 'hate' is setting itself up for a reckoning of cataclysmic and catastrophic proportions.
 
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Cliffy

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Homosexuality in practice is evil. I've never said homosexuals are evil. They are however responsible for the evil they inflict on others and themselves. In orientation homosexuality it is profoundly disordered. When have I placed pedophilia or pederasty in any relative ordering of hierarchy of sins in relation to homosexuality. They are all part of a fundamental rebellion against natural and supernatural law. Pederasty in quite clearly an particularly deviant and predatory expression of homosexuality, but it all starts with failing to conform to a absolute moral vision. Once that goes there is nothing to stop a fall into a predatory debauchery.

Homosexuality is limited in the natural world to Human Beings. The only creature capable of knowledge of good and evil, and the will to choose between the two. And Canada through it naïve and politically correct rejection of the codes of its founding faith and in conjunction with meaningless aphorisms of 'diversity, inclusion, tolerance' in which anything goes and all opposition to it is labeled 'hate' is setting itself up for a reckoning of cataclysmic and catastrophic proportions.
You really do need to read something other than Catechism. Homosexuality is rampant in Nature and in Domestic animals. Your idea of absolute moral vision is your concept and has very little to do with either human nature or divine nature. Your preoccupation with homosexuality would indicate that you are a closet gay person.
 

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Homosexuality in practice is evil. I've never said homosexuals are evil. They are however responsible for the evil they inflict on others and themselves. In orientation homosexuality it is profoundly disordered. When have I placed pedophilia or pederasty in any relative ordering of hierarchy of sins in relation to homosexuality.


I pointed it out in my previous post. Not my issue if you totally ignored it.



Homosexuality is limited in the natural world to Human Beings. The only creature capable of knowledge of good and evil, and the will to choose between the two.



http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206-are-there-any-homosexual-animals


https://www.zooportraits.com/animal-homosexuality/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2004/07/homosexual-animals-debate/


The difference is that in humans, the good and evil you mention isn't about whether indulging is natural, but the reasons FOR it. Like in heterosexual relationships - if the partners are mature, consenting and good with it, there should be no issue. When sex of any kind - gay or straight - is used to hurt, belittle, corrupt and so on, that is evil. Humans have knowledge of that.

Animals see it as 'just is' and have no concept of good or evil.


But I expect you to totally ignore this post too.
 

Cliffy

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I pointed it out in my previous post. Not my issue if you totally ignored it.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206-are-there-any-homosexual-animals


https://www.zooportraits.com/animal-homosexuality/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2004/07/homosexual-animals-debate/


The difference is that in humans, the good and evil you mention isn't about whether indulging is natural, but the reasons FOR it. Like in heterosexual relationships - if the partners are mature, consenting and good with it, there should be no issue. When sex of any kind - gay or straight - is used to hurt, belittle, corrupt and so on, that is evil. Humans have knowledge of that.

Animals see it as 'just is' and have no concept of good or evil.


But I expect you to totally ignore this post too.
You cannot win an argument with a religious fanatic. No amount of facts or rational will penetrate their armour.
 

DaSleeper

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I pointed it out in my previous post. Not my issue if you totally ignored it.







http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206-are-there-any-homosexual-animals


https://www.zooportraits.com/animal-homosexuality/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2004/07/homosexual-animals-debate/


The difference is that in humans, the good and evil you mention isn't about whether indulging is natural, but the reasons FOR it. Like in heterosexual relationships - if the partners are mature, consenting and good with it, there should be no issue. When sex of any kind - gay or straight - is used to hurt, belittle, corrupt and so on, that is evil. Humans have knowledge of that.

Animals see it as 'just is' and have no concept of good or evil.


But I expect you to totally ignore this post too.
Do these studies show it to be a preference for those animals or just an available release for a horny beast?
If a female dog that has been "fixed" starts humping your leg or a teddy bear ...what conclusions do you reach?
 
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spilledthebeer

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You really do need to read something other than Catechism. Homosexuality is rampant in Nature and in Domestic animals. Your idea of absolute moral vision is your concept and has very little to do with either human nature or divine nature. Your preoccupation with homosexuality would indicate that you are a closet gay person.




OH Cliffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You REALLY NEED TO GET OUT MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Imagine YOU STEWING over the homosexual behaviour of FARM ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just so you know....................it is not unheard of for one farm animal to "mount" another..............................


BUT IT IS more an assertion of domination ..........................................


AND NOT an invitation to anal sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They call him Cliffy because he fell off a cliff and hit his head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And.......tell me CLiffy..............................................


do you often see young Moose or squirrels giving each other blowjobs where you live????????????????????
 

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Do these studies show it to be a preference for those animals or just an available release for a horny beast?
If a female dog that has been "fixed" starts humping your leg or a teddy bear ...what conclusions do you reach?


Wha...

LOL

I think you don't know much about dogs. Dogs 'hump' for a lot of reasons. Horniness doesn't factor into it unless a female is in season. So for a spayed female, humping things like a toy bear or a leg is dominance issues or over stimulation/excitement. Even an unspayed female not in heat will hump. My unspayed female has humped my other spayed female and one of my in tact males before. Had nothing to do with horniness but dominance.
 

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You really do need to read something other than Catechism. Homosexuality is rampant in Nature and in Domestic animals. Your idea of absolute moral vision is your concept and has very little to do with either human nature or divine nature. Your preoccupation with homosexuality would indicate that you are a closet gay person.


I haven't read the Catechism in a long while.

Specifically with respect to homosexuality in animals, it does not exist. Procreative sex in animals, in general, is a transient biological habit without apprehension or reflection. It has none of the mystique, romance, identity, meaning, morality that humans accord to it.

Animals primarily act in the interests of their own survival and the survival of their offspring. Nothing could sabatoge this more effectively than failing to procreate and to distract the sexual impulse into futile and gratuitous acts of dissolution like homosexuality.

It seems to me that validating homosexuality through the actions of animals is the ultimate admission of its futility and its moral void. Where supposed activity resembling homosexual activity does occur in animals it is always as a result of stress from overcrowding or imminent danger, or, by inexperienced adolescents and never as product of constructive self interest. Homosexuality as a genetically determined, concrete, physical trait simply does not exist in humans or animals.

And as I told Serryah earlier.. your continued insults to me of being 'in the closet' simply represent your deep antipathy to those who struggle with homosexual inclinations. Unlike you, my posts actually recognize the shame and degradation of its practice and offer some hope, rather that capitulation.

So I say again, if I was a homosexual, i'd be thinking.. with friends like you who needs enemies. You are simply a hypocrite, Cliffy.
 
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I haven't read the Catechism in a long while.

Specifically with respect to homosexuality in animals, it does not exist. Procreative sex in animals, in general, is a transient biological habit without apprehension or reflection. It has none of the mystique, romance, identity, meaning, morality that humans accord to it.

Animals primarily act in the interests of their own survival and the survival of their offspring. Nothing could sabatoge this more effectively than failing to procreate and to distract the sexual impulse into futile and gratuitous acts of dissolution like homosexuality.

It seems to me that validating homosexuality through the actions of animals is the ultimate admission of its futility and its moral void. Where supposed activity resembling homosexual activity does occur in animals it is always as a result of stress from overcrowding or imminent danger, or, by inexperienced adolescents and never as product of constructive self interest. Homosexuality as a genetically determined, concrete, physical trait simply does not exist in humans or animals.

And as I told Serryah earlier.. your continued insults to me of being 'in the closet' simply represent your deep antipathy to those who struggle with homosexual inclinations. Unlike you, my posts actually recognize the shame and degradation of its practice and offer some hope, rather that capitulation.

So I say again, if I was a homosexual, i'd be thinking.. with friends like you who needs enemies. You are simply a hypocrite, Cliffy.




POOR coldstream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has out debated by Serryah - but at least she is a logical and reasonable thinker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What has to REALLY HURT is that CLIFFY has actually managed to score points against coldstream as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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I haven't read the Catechism in a long while.

Specifically with respect to homosexuality in animals, it does not exist. Procreative sex in animals, in general, is a transient biological habit without apprehension or reflection. It has none of the mystique, romance, identity, meaning, morality that humans accord to it.

Animals primarily act in the interests of their own survival and the survival of their offspring. Nothing could sabatoge this more effectively than failing to procreate and to distract the sexual impulse into futile and gratuitous acts of dissolution like homosexuality.

It seems to me that validating homosexuality through the actions of animals is the ultimate admission of its futility and its moral void. Where supposed activity resembling homosexual activity does occur in animals it is always as a result of stress from overcrowding or imminent danger, or, by inexperienced adolescents and never as product of constructive self interest. Homosexuality as a genetically determined, concrete, physical trait simply does not exist in humans or animals.

And as I told Serryah earlier.. your continued insults to me of being 'in the closet' simply represent your deep antipathy to those who struggle with homosexual inclinations. Unlike you, my posts actually recognize the shame and degradation of its practice and offer some hope, rather that capitulation.

So I say again, if I was a homosexual, i'd be thinking.. with friends like you who needs enemies. You are simply a hypocrite, Cliffy.




POOR coldstream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I suggest YOU PRAY FOR GUIDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You will NOT be able to THINK your way out of the theological BOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Wha...

LOL

I think you don't know much about dogs. Dogs 'hump' for a lot of reasons. Horniness doesn't factor into it unless a female is in season. So for a spayed female, humping things like a toy bear or a leg is dominance issues or over stimulation/excitement. Even an unspayed female not in heat will hump. My unspayed female has humped my other spayed female and one of my in tact males before. Had nothing to do with horniness but dominance.


There you go... you just reinforced my point! thanks!


Quoted the wrong post before ...Sorry Taxslave
 

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There you go... you just reinforced my point! thanks!


Quoted the wrong post before ...Sorry Taxslave


Gotta ask what your point was. "Humping" can be for a lot of reasons, not just sexual release.

In the links though, it specifically focuses on same sex relationships of animals/pair bondings of same sex animals.

The two don't equate at all.
 

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NBC Hillary Clinton Shut Down Pedophile Investigation at State Department
https://www.collective-evolution.co...tate-department-according-to-nbc-news-report/
(NBC, for all you pedo defending alex jones haters)

Crime & courts on
Search NBCNews.com

Massive online pedophile ring busted by cops
Five Americans among 184 people arrested; 230 abused children taken to safety

An Internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 members — thought to be the world's largest —has been uncovered by police, a security official said Wednesday.

The European police agency Europol said in a statement that "Operation Rescue" had identified 670 suspects and that 230 abused children in 30 countries had been taken to safety. More children are expected to be found, Europol said.

It said that so far 184 people had been arrested and investigations in some countries were continuing. Most of those detained are suspected of direct involvement in sexually abusing children.

They include teachers, police officers and scout leaders, AP reported. One Spaniard who worked at summer youth camps is suspected of abusing some 100 children over five years.

Europol director Rob Wainwright said Wednesday the ring, which communicated using an Internet forum, was "probably the largest online pedophile network in the world."
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/...line-pedophile-ring-busted-cops/#.XJId5SJKipo

The Oldie scoop that exposed Jimmy Savile
The BBC has serious questions to answer. The Newsnight investigation uncovered information of which Surrey Police was not aware, and moreover allegations were made about living people. Surely the BBC had a duty to inform the police about these disclosures? Yet there is no indication that it has done so, and the BBC has refused to answer questions about this. Furthermore, given that Savile was on the BBC’s payroll for more than 25 years, and along with the other celebrities who are still alive, is alleged to have abused minors on BBC premises, shouldn’t the Corporation have launched an in-house inquiry? When asked if BBC Director-General Mark Thompson knew of the Newsnight report, the BBC refused to comment. But a source has told me that Thompson was tackled about the axing of the report at a pre-Christmas drinks party, so he cannot claim to be ignorant of it.

The BBC should be aware that the matter is not at an end. Many of Savile’s other victims – and those of other celebrities with whom he mixed in the 1960s and 70s – are preparing to speak out.
https://www.theoldie.co.uk/blog/savile-row-1

DOD Continues To Enable Mass Pedophilia In Afghanistan

A new report on pervasive child sexual abuse among Afghan security personnel, prepared by the independent Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR), is being suppressed by Pentagon officials. In its place, the Defense Department has issued a highly technical report, which laments procedural shortcomings but omits a full account of the systematic pederasty by Afghan officers that American forces have basically ignored for 15 years.

“The results of SIGAR’s unreleased inquiry, which was requested by 93 members of Congress in 2015, remains classified at the Pentagon’s direction, raising questions about the military’s transparency and the extent to which it is complying with laws meant to curb such behavior,” according to the Washington Post.

Selling and using young boys (often dressed as girls) for sex—known colloquially as bacha bazi, or “boy play”—has deep roots in Afghanistan and has been widely practiced for generations. A State Department report in 2010 described the extent of the problem: “Child abuse was endemic throughout the country, based on cultural beliefs about child-rearing, and included general neglect, physical abuse, sexual abuse, abandonment, and confined forced labor to pay off family debts.” It also noted that “most child sexual abusers were not arrested.” American officers, who share quarters with Afghan ones, report boys screaming in agony, which they were instructed to ignore.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ia-in-afghanistan_us_5a2ea57ee4b022ec613b8497

In 2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) published a six-month investigation looking at 125,000 unaccompanied minors who had crossed the U.S. borders into the United States since 2011, reportedly fleeing violence and unrest in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

This U.S. Senate report concluded that the Office of Refugee Resettlement, an agency of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), had failed to protect these children from human trafficking, leaving them vulnerable to abuses at the hands of government-approved caretakers.

U.S. law requires HHS to ensure that unaccompanied alien children (UAC) are protected from human trafficking and other forms of abuse, but Sen. Portman’s report made it clear that this was not happening, and that the U.S. had become a popular destination for child sex trafficking, increasing dramatically since 2014 under the Obama administration:
https://healthimpactnews.com/2018/a...philia-cps-and-foster-care-are-the-pipelines/

Then you have the now proven fake POLITICAL allegations against people like Roy Moore...

The pedoes in the churchES may be a problem, but they are not the only problem.
 
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