Humboldt Broncos bus crash

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I realize when people are in the depths of grief, they don't always choose their words too carefully. The one woman who lost a family member should have quit her impact statement before the last sentence, where she stated he chose to run the stop sign. I thought that was most unfair. Maybe he didn't see it, maybe he dozed off for a second, who knows!


It isn't a small stop sign, JLM. It is much bigger than the ones we normally see. He did have a choice - stop or blow the stop. He chose to blow through the stop sign.
 

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Statement of facts in the case:

https://postmediathestarphoenix2.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/humboldt-agreed-facts.pdf

It should be noted that Mr Sidhu was also found not to have followed several other transportation rules such as filling in his log book properly.

It was much more than just shit happening, JLM. I don't think Mr Sidhu deserves life in prison but the sentence must in someway reflect the gravity of the crime.


Yep, there's three main schools of thought on the matter. Some think the penalty should be commensurate with the seriousness of the infraction while others think the penalty should be commensurate with the seriousness of the damage, while still others think the degree of punishment is irrelevant because it won't change anything that has already happened. I suspect in the trucking industry Mr. Sidhu was equally as negligent as dozens of others are every day.
 

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It isn't a small stop sign, JLM. It is much bigger than the ones we normally see. He did have a choice - stop or blow the stop. He chose to blow through the stop sign.


Maybe or he could have been day dreaming. I find it hard to believe he DELIBERATELY ran the stop sign and if he did deliberately do that common sense tells me he would have chosen to do it at a much lower speed.
 

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Singh also said the driver had been going to counselling services after the crash, but didn’t give the driver’s name.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4317521/jaskirat-sidhu-driver-humboldt-broncos-crash/

This guy will pay a dear price for the rest of his life, no matter what the criminal outcome turns out to be...as will everyone else who is even remotely involved will also suffer no matter what the criminal outcome is.

It's a tough thing, where there are NO winners. Sports and games where there is always the next season, or the next respawn, where we learn so much about life that is useful, don't prepare us well for these types of moments.

I see Sidhu pleaded guilty, ( one of the parents was saying that was enough, no amount of time served will change anything much after that - No point in making him the 30th victim...), which is a least better than I have seen from some deadly drunk drivers in court. Just from looking at his face, I can see he will never be free of how it feels to be that.
 
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You are right, CC but that in no way means he should be let off lightly. IMO
I'd feel more punative if I thought that there was something unusual about the way that he drove but truth is, an aweful lot of local drivers drive badly on country roads thinking that no one else is around (one hopes). Local farmers probably run that stop all of the time in their pick-up trucks. That certainly doesn't make it right to kill a bus full of people but you all might be a little hasty in grabbing the nearest rope to string him up.

He needs to be punished, I admit that. Locking him up for the rest of his natural life seems excessive. He is not Paul Bernardo or Willy Pickton.
 

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I think calling a traffic accident first-degree murder is a GREAT idea!

Canada could soon top the U.S. as country with the largest percentage of its population incarcerated!
 

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I'd feel more punative if I thought that there was something unusual about the way that he drove but truth is, an aweful lot of local drivers drive badly on country roads thinking that no one else is around (one hopes). Local farmers probably run that stop all of the time in their pick-up trucks. That certainly doesn't make it right to kill a bus full of people but you all might be a little hasty in grabbing the nearest rope to string him up.

He needs to be punished, I admit that. Locking him up for the rest of his natural life seems excessive. He is not Paul Bernardo or Willy Pickton.


I suggested three years incarceration, although I doubt if it will do much good. For one thing it pales in comparison to what he's suffered already, for the second it won't improve him as a human being, but it will keep him out of the public eye and away from ridicule and then of course there will be many who are outraged at such a lenient sentence. Of course a lot of this outrage will be felt by hypocrites who have committed exactly the same infraction. A couple of weeks ago I blew a stop for the first time in years, nothing happened (thank God) except I blew a stop sign. I did think of stopping twice at the next one!
 

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Isn't it a bit disingenuous on your part?
The word "murder" wasn't mentioned by anyone until just now!


Not publicly anyway! Perhaps a little "tongue in cheek" there...…………………...not sure if this is the time and place for it!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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A buddy worked in corrections once told me the only people that serve a full 20 in prison are the guards. Everyone else gets time off for good behaviour.
Your buddy didn't know that he could quit at any time?

Wow, sounds like you have a true brother of the soul, and especially of the brain, there.

I mean, when you start off not understanding the difference between a 20-year sentence and a life sentence, clearly the conversation is not going to go well.