Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[Curious Cdn]

Gun injuries, including many from assaults, sent 75,000 U.S. children and teens to emergency rooms over nine years at a cost of almost $3 billion, a first-of-its-kind study found.
https://www.wral.com/guns-send-over-8-000-us-kids-to-er-each-year-analysis-says/17954098/
Pressure from the gun lobby has limited U.S. government funding for research on gun injuries and death, and that has led to big gaps in understanding the scope of the problem, said Dr. Denise Dowd, an ER physician at Children's Mercy hospital in Kansas City.
"It's really important that we have an idea of the magnitude of life lost and injured and how much money we are spending ... so we can prioritize it as a national health concern."

The NRA probably wants everyone to pack a larger calibre do that one will be killed outright and the injury rate will therefore be reduced.

 

[Hoid]

The NRA is laser-focused on preventing any liability from falling on the gun makers.

The taxpayer can handle the bills.

 

[spilledthebeer]

The only people to ever pay down national debt have been Liberals.

(and it got them crushed at the polls)

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Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOUR SLEAZY LIES ARE BECOMING TRULY CREATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Adolf Hitler would be envious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Too bad it was LIE-berals in control in Canada for fully 75 years of the 20th century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And that Statistics Canada tells us that Cdn debt traditionally rises FASTEST when we have LIE-beral/NDP coalition

minority govts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOOK OUT - AND HANG ON TO YOUR WALLETS if Jagmeet Singh and Our idiot Boy form a minority govt in 2019!!!!!!!!!!!!


FORTUNATELY minority govts do not usually last long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So the MOST COSTLY AND WASTEFUL GOVT we have ever had has been run by Our idiot Boy Justin and his LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!


And the SECOND MOST WASTEFUL GOVT was run by Pierre Trudeau and his LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you want to find people who have done more to harm Canada than the VILE TRUDEAU CLAN - then you have to look to Kaiser Wilhelm and Adolf Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are judged by the company you keep Hoid- and you are now being judged VERY HARSHLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[spilledthebeer]

The NRA is laser-focused on preventing any liability from falling on the gun makers.

The taxpayer can handle the bills.

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Okay Hoid.........................since you believe you are


so wise..............................


HOW will MORE gun control in Canada- translate into less shootings and stabbings in Toronto??????????????????


Okay now................................


go make up some irrelevant garbage about Harper so you can NOT answer my question with anything RELEVANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Colpy]

The NRA is laser-focused on preventing any liability from falling on the gun makers.

The taxpayer can handle the bills.

That is because, if the gun makers have done their job carefully and with due diligence, then they are not liable.


They are selling weapons, whic are dangerous by definition.


It is not their fault if people misuse them, by intent or by accident.


As well, private possession of these weapons is a right guaranteed in the Constitution.



What the folks on the left want to do is put gun makers out of business, thus denying the people the right to bear arms.


The NRA is a civil rights group, working to preserve the individual rights of the people.


I much prefer them over anti-liberty gun control freaks.

 

[Hoid]

Your feelings, so very special, are irrelevant.
Tobacco was made to pay up for the damage their products do. Like car makers and every other honest business.

 

[DaSleeper]

The only people to ever pay down national debt have been Liberals.

(and it got them crushed at the polls)

Bullshit!




https://www.fraserinstitute.org/art...ack-to-set-record-for-increasing-federal-debt
https://business.financialpost.com/...in-trudeau-is-more-like-pierre-than-we-feared

At that time it seems that Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau came under the influence of neoliberalism, promulgated by Frederich Hayek and Milton Friedman. Then, while attending the Basil Committee sessions, he probably came under further influence of fellow Bilderberg attendees and as a result he accepted the partisan flawed logic from the world’s top banks. Apparently on the basis of this, he decided that Canada should dramatically reduce borrowing interest-free money from Canada’s own bank and instead borrow the bulk of its money from chartered banks and pay interest on the loans. It appears that this decision was made without informing Canada’s parliament. This was such a fundamental change of policy that it should not only have been debated in parliament, this should have been put to a national referendum. Strangely, even when this became known, this was apparently never questioned by the opposition parties, especially the NDP, and never revealed in the media. Strange indeed.

https://canadiandimension.com/artic...-reinstated-to-its-original-mandated-purposes


http://bettysearlyedition.blogspot.com/2015/07/how-pierre-trudeau-turned-us-into-debt.html

 

[JamesBondo]

hoid was not born back then.

 

[Danbones]

COMER — Committee on Monetary and Economic Reform EST. 1986

Supreme Court of Canada Dismisses Constitutional Bank of Canada Case, Claiming It Is a Political Matter

Toronto, May 31, 2017 – After nearly 5.5 years of contentious litigation between the Committee On Monetary and Economic Reform (COMER) and the Government of Canada involving three separate Federal Court and two additional Federal Court of Appeal hearings resulting in contrary decisions, on May 4, 2017, the Supreme Court of Canada dismissed COMER’s “leave” (permission to appeal) application from the second judgment of the Federal Court of Appeal.
http://www.comer.org/content/SupremeCourtDecision_4May17.htm

Yeah, so much for trying to undo what that nazi commie globalist who sold our country out did.

 

[Danbones]

Your feelings, so very special, are irrelevant.
Tobacco was made to pay up for the damage their products do. Like car makers and every other honest business.

How do you compensate someone who has died from dr prescribed tobacco use? MY Aunt went that way, she was prescribed cigarettes to help her sleep at night. They did relatively little except compensate the lawyers.

 

[DaSleeper]

hoid was not born back then.

I like to point out to dummies like him that before the liberals of Pierre trudeau that the country would borrow interest free from the Bank of Canada.
Check out just the interest we pay yearly....... https://www.fraserinstitute.org/art...ebt-translates-into-7000-for-a-family-of-four


Thank you Trudeau liberals

 

[spilledthebeer]

I like to point out to dummies like him that before the liberals of Pierre trudeau that the country would borrow interest free from the Bank of Canada.
Check out just the interest we pay yearly....... https://www.fraserinstitute.org/art...ebt-translates-into-7000-for-a-family-of-four


Thank you Trudeau liberals

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Some guy- who had been drinking- took his son out in a canoe- a vessel well known for being unstable- for a ride out on notoriously



windy Georgian Bay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The father did not bother with life jackets of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the inevitable happened- the canoe flipped and the kid drowned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And THE FATHER has been convicted- basically of being an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So WHY dont we sue the makers of inherently unstable canoes????????????????????


And WHY dont we sue the makers of alcohol- a substance with a long history of being at the heart of stupid life choices?????????



LOGIC is NOT something LIE-berals wish to dabble with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hoid]

How do you compensate someone who has died from dr prescribed tobacco use? MY Aunt went that way, she was prescribed cigarettes to help her sleep at night. They did relatively little except compensate the lawyers.

many jurisdictions in north america have successfully sued tobacco companies for damages and costs.

perhaps you could take some time from your important work here and actually find out how its done

 

[Colpy]

Your feelings, so very special, are irrelevant.
Tobacco was made to pay up for the damage their products do. Like car makers and every other honest business.

Tobacco is a product that was intended for pleasure, and advertised as a health benefit for decades. There is no right to have to have tobacco, and add the fact that is is highly addictive (believe me, I know) and you will understand that these are not the same.


I think the tobacco suits were justified in the 70's and 80's, but now it is ludicrous. Anyone that lights up now understands the risk involved.

 

[Hoid]

Tobacco is a product that was intended for pleasure, and advertised as a health benefit for decades. There is no right to have to have tobacco, and add the fact that is is highly addictive (believe me, I know) and you will understand that these are not the same.


I think the tobacco suits were justified in the 70's and 80's, but now it is ludicrous. Anyone that lights up now understands the risk involved.

Again its all feel good info - but when the taxpayer is on the hook for a bunch of expenses due to the sale and consumption of tobacco then the proceeds from those sales must at least help pay the freight.\\

Likewise with guns.

 

[pgs]

Tobacco is a product that was intended for pleasure, and advertised as a health benefit for decades. There is no right to have to have tobacco, and add the fact that is is highly addictive (believe me, I know) and you will understand that these are not the same.


I think the tobacco suits were justified in the 70's and 80's, but now it is ludicrous. Anyone that lights up now understands the risk involved.

They were telling us of the dangers of smoking in the 60’s while I was in school , never stopped anyone .

 

[pgs]

Again its all feel good info - but when the taxpayer is on the hook for a bunch of expenses due to the sale and consumption of tobacco then the proceeds from those sales must at least help pay the freight.\\

Likewise with guns.

What expenses does the taxpayer face from legally owned and operated firearms ?

 

[Hoid]

Gun injuries, including many from assaults, sent 75,000 U.S. children and teens to emergency rooms over nine years at a cost of almost $3 billion, a first-of-its-kind study found.

https://www.wral.com/guns-send-over-8-000-us-kids-to-er-each-year-analysis-says/17954098/

Pressure from the gun lobby has limited U.S. government funding for research on gun injuries and death, and that has led to big gaps in understanding the scope of the problem, said Dr. Denise Dowd, an ER physician at Children's Mercy hospital in Kansas City.

"It's really important that we have an idea of the magnitude of life lost and injured and how much money we are spending ... so we can prioritize it as a national health concern."

here read this again.

 

[spilledthebeer]

So, from the responses made for common sense and thoughtful discussion, some here believe it better to criticize and belittle in place of reasonable solutions. It then goes to blaming a particular group or groups. Having others supporting hatred of those perceived as the enemy results in what we saw in the US this past week.

Add ...... the freedom to acquire enough arms to supply an army with virtually no restrictions empowers a mail bomber tryng to kill off Trump's list of those who are seen to stand against him, is toxic. It ends in the slaughter of religious groups, students, different racial groups. Inciting to riot or violence is exactly what happened. so let's cut out the rhetoric and stick to reasonable responses.

Make no mistake, when we vote, we chose those who's ideas we agree with. If when we do not vote or vote in a radical leader in protest we get what we deserve.

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PITY our POOR- IN SPIRIT AND DEFICIENT IN LOGIC- silly little Bluebyrdie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Birdie says: if we vote in a radical leader then we get what we deserve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND FOR ONCE our silly little birdie IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A bunch of Cdns sat SILENT as Our radical MORON Justin and his LIE-beral losers- poor in intelligence and deficient in logic- were elected in 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now the silent majority IS SPEAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdns HAVE DECIDED that Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals HAVE TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now our foolish bluebyrdie is raging like that manic parrot in the Peter Sellers movie "The Party" -because SHE disapproves of our choices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!


Our little bluebyrdie is DEMANDING birdie "num nums" - also known as ENTITLEMENTS - with just as much charm and grace as the movie parrot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Too bad Peters Sellers is dead......we could SELL TICKETS to let people watch him pelt Bluebyrdie with bird seed as he did with the movie parrot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

There is no right to have to have tobacco

Ah beg yo' pahdon, suh?