Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

Gilgamesh

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So the SCC has stopped parliaments latest and final (?) attempt to get the pipeline built. As expected, it is yet another tiresome FN band screwing things up.
We jay have to face the fact unpalatable as it is, that Canadabis too friggingin' incompetent to function on the level that 'real' nations do.

Very embarassing.
 

MHz

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Bossed around by the same people we have locked up on Reserves. That will not go over good with our 'overlords' or is this where we get stabbed in the back?.
 

Mowich

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Bossed around by the same people we have locked up on Reserves. That will not go over good with our 'overlords' or is this where we get stabbed in the back?.


They are 'locked up on Reserves' because that is where the AFN - the chief opponents of disbanding the Indian Act - prefer to have them stay.
 

Decapoda

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I thought Flossy was saying Trudope got pipelines built? Guess not.


I thought Trudeau was also supposed to be the great healer of indigenous hurt feelings and the ambassador of reconciliation. Looks like he's failed miserably at this, too.


“Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has failed to respect the Indigenous rights of the Squamish people, has failed to consult my nation when it comes to the expansion of the Kinder Morgan pipeline and the increased oil tankers through our territory,” said Khelsilem, a councillor with the Squamish First Nation.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...ers-claim-ottawa-did-not-properly-consult-bc/
 

Mowich

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So much for any balance in news reports of the court's decision. Every broadcast I've seen has featured either the wanna-be significant but having no skin in the land game type but not one single reporter has bothered to interview all the Chiefs who's bands now see their hopes for a brighter future any time soon - just go up in smoke.

Have to back-step a bit on my previous remarks as CTV just showed a pressie by Premier Rachel Notley of Alberta - and what grand speech it was. Bottom line, Alberta just pulled out of the climate action plan and as Rachel intoned, without Alberta onside - the agreement is nothing more than a piece of paper. You Go Rachel.
 

Cliffy

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Hoid

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Yes the old rail is worse than pipeline "argument".

Always a good fallback position when you get your ass handed to you on a plate.
 

justlooking

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So the SCC has stopped parliaments latest and final (?) attempt to get the pipeline built. As expected, it is yet another tiresome FN band screwing things up.
We jay have to face the fact unpalatable as it is, that Canadabis too friggingin' incompetent to function on the level that 'real' nations do.

Very embarassing.




Hey, it's just more money for Saudi Arabia. Hooray !
 

MHz

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They are 'locked up on Reserves' because that is where the AFN - the chief opponents of disbanding the Indian Act - prefer to have them stay.
That may sound offensive but they are at a disadvantage for the amount of 'help' the taxpayers send their way. If the total was divided between the living members the amount should be 'a tidy sum' if we are treating them right and if they paid for services as they use them it would probably be less than is diverted to the various 'off Rez' services. Same with utilities and groceries and hardware, all factored in to equal the amount that is sent to the Rez and the surrounding communities.

We allow cross border shopping to avoid a few taxes but if a Rez tries to sell some smokes it is a crime serious enough that the Army is called. They should have stores that rival the size of Home Depot, duty free and online shopping is now available.
Clinics on a Rez should be allowed to offer Patients/Clients 'tradition diets' while they are there as a way to treat diseases such as chronic alcoholism.
Should either of those 2 ideas be implemented and they are in the 'black' I doubt the international chains that start losing money to sent back to the nest the army gets called out so their interests are protected.


Just going back to 1867 how much has been spent on court cases? Now that there are no more issues before them the whole system is about to be abandoned and a new set of treaties will be implemented that will need 70 years in the Courts to iron out what all the fine print means. If all the 'fine tuning' was done at the ICC the matters would be settled without any court appearances if Canada was paying the whole bill no matter who won or lost.

The last one I saw was 20 years in the courts with the taxpayer coughing up $200M in Lawyers fees alone.


Just when the current documents will start paying off for the Indians it is time to change the rules, at great cost to them. Just when coal fired power was cheap and relatively clean it was time to treat it like we were in the industrial revolution and it has to be shut down even though the alternative will cost the people a great deal of money.
Continuous rape more or less.
(in part)

Hey, it's just more money for Saudi Arabia. Hooray !
Stock piled for a war against Iran, Yemen is target practice. That makes them 'proxy warriors' for what nation in the area?

Did we just lose the market the pipe was for?
 

Liberalman

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Since Canada paid for the pipeline and they are starting to build it they should look into building another type of pipe a multi-use pipeline.
Canada is keen on innovation putting in a bigger pipe is good for hyper-loop or grain delivery or other products. We shouldn't be looking at a loss of a court case as a loss we should be looking at this as an opportunity or a new beginning.
 

taxslave

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I don't know about that. Do you truly trust Ledcor?

Ledcor is only doing one section.

Since Canada paid for the pipeline and they are starting to build it they should look into building another type of pipe a multi-use pipeline.
Canada is keen on innovation putting in a bigger pipe is good for hyper-loop or grain delivery or other products. We shouldn't be looking at a loss of a court case as a loss we should be looking at this as an opportunity or a new beginning.

The only way to look at this gross misscarriage of just us is the West being ****ked over once again.
It makes a good case for electing judges.
 

Mowich

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Yes the old rail is worse than pipeline "argument".

Always a good fallback position when you get your ass handed to you on a plate.


Considering that it is the Federal government who got their 'asses handed to them on a plate', and that they have not said word one about rail, your vacuous comments reflect only upon your inability to hit the correct target.