Saudi Arabia expelling Canadian ambassador, suspending new trade

10larry

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My niece is pretty smart. She told my sister that the Americans and others she had met in politics or non profits were just amazing people and very capable. Most of them in their 20s. For sure Washington would attract the best of the best, those interested in public service, and from the whole world. There is hope. The bench is deep. We need to hold onto that.


What is the Rothchild thing? Oh and you can have nothing and be a somebody. You can have everything and be a big nothing. Your metrics are off.

Sorry misplaced s...... s/b rothschild
 

White_Unifier

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Looks like the world has changed and our close allies forgot to tell Canada things are different. Certainly the europeans have chilled after Putin's aggression where Trump is like a labrador retriever with him. Not how it used to be. Diplomacy is being redone everywhere. Strongman states and the corrupt are pushing back and testing the world's boundaries. I wonder if they are all calling each other. Thanks to the US for stepping away from world leaderdership.

Previous collapses in diplonacy like this resulted in World Wars.

We need to all go vegan, learn Esperanto, and celebrate World Religion Day on the third Sunday of January every year.

Oh yes, and ride a bicycle whenever you can, and abstain from drugs. Are you doing your part? :)
 

10larry

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What is the Rothchild thing? Oh and you can have nothing and be a somebody. You can have everything and be a big nothing. Your metrics are off.

Oh and you can have nothing and be a somebody. You can have everything and be a big nothing. Your metrics are off.

Metricate for me plz....

I knew I saved a portrate of pet saluting joe n' jane average somewhere, took awhile to locate but I like sharing lib legacy.

 

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Saudi - Canada row: One reason why Saudi Arabia holds ALL the power

SAUDI Arabia holds the cards in its ongoing row with Canada, with Ottawa potentially biting off more than it can chew.

You are quite incorrect...


Canada doesn't have a problem in terms of the oil they get from SA... EASTERN Canada has the problem.

... We have plenty here in Western Canada so not to worry


Saudi Arabia rules out mediation with Canada over rights criticism, weighs new punitive steps


OMG!!!

The Saudis are removing patients from Canadian hospitals and freeing up beds for the ROC?

What shall we ever do?
 

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‘We don’t have a single friend’: Canada’s Saudi spat reveals country is alone
As Saudi officials lashed out at Canada this week, the US remained on the sidelines, signaling a blatant shift in the relationship



Soon after Donald Trump took office, it became clear that the longstanding relationship between the United States and its northern neighbour was about to change: there were terse renegotiations of Nafta, thousands of asylum seekers walking across the shared border and attacks on against Canada’s protectionist trade policies.

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But this week laid bare perhaps the most blatant shift in the relationship, as the United States said it would remain on the sidelines while Saudi officials lashed out at Canada over its call to release jailed civil rights activists.

“It’s up for the government of Saudi Arabia and the Canadians to work this out,” state department spokesperson Heather Nauert said this week. “Both sides need to diplomatically resolve this together. We can’t do it for them.”

Canada’s lonely stance was swiftly noticed north of the border. “We do not have a single friend in the whole entire world,” Rachel Curran, a policy director under former Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper, lamented on Twitter.

The United Kingdom was similarly muted in its response, noted Bob Rae, a former leader of the federal Liberal party. “The Brits and the Trumpians run for cover and say ‘we’re friends with both the Saudis and the Canadians,’” Rae wrote on Twitter. “Thanks for the support for human rights, guys, and we’ll remember this one for sure.”

The spat appeared to have been sparked last week when Canada’s foreign ministry expressed its concern over the arrest of Saudi civil society and women’s rights activists, in a tweet that echoed concerns previously voiced by the United Nations.

Saudi Arabia swiftly shot back, expelling Canada’s ambassador and suspending new trade and investment with Ottawa, making plans to remove thousands of Saudi students and medical patients from Canada, and suspending the state airline’s flights to and from Canada, among other actions.

Speaking to reporters in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister urged Canada to “fix its big mistake” and warned that the kingdom was considering additional measures against Canada.

Analysts and regional officials said the spat had little to do with Canada, instead characterising Riyadh’s actions as a broader signal to western governments that any criticism of its domestic policies is unacceptable.

Several countries expressed support for Saudi Arabia, including Egypt and Russia. But Canada continued to stand alone, even as state-run media in the kingdom reported the beheading and “crucifixion” of a man convicted of killing a woman and carrying out other crimes.

Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister, said Canada was continuing to engage diplomatically and politically with Saudi Arabia. “We have respect for their importance in the world and recognise that they have made progress on a number of important issues,” he told reporters this week.

He insisted, however, that his government would continue to press Saudi Arabia on its human rights record. “We will, at the same time, continue to speak clearly and firmly on issues of human rights at home and abroad wherever we see the need.”

In this particular dispute, Canada did not need US help, said Thomas Juneau, a professor at the University of Ottawa. “Saudi Arabia-Canada relations are very limited, so there’s not a lot of damage being done to Canada right now,” he said. “But this should be a source of major anxiety: when a real crisis comes and we are alone, what do we do?”


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The week’s events have added impetus to a conversation that is slowly getting underway in Canada, Juneau said. “We are starting some serious soul-searching in the sense of what does it mean for Canada to have a US that is much more unilateral, much more dismissive of the rules and the norms and of its leadership role in the international order that it has played for 70 years?”

These changes south of the border have clearly emboldened Saudi Arabia, Juneau argued, describing the kingdom’s recent actions in Yemen, Qatar and Lebanon as a pattern of aggressive, ambitious and reckless behaviour.

He saw no immediate end to the row, particularly as neither side is suffering significant costs in the dispute. Saudi Arabia has shown little inclination in recent years to walk back from its reckless and impulsive behaviour, he said, while Canada’s federal government – facing an election in some 14 months and already under fire for signing off on the sale of more than 900 armoured vehicles to Riyadh – is loathe to be seen adopting any kind of conciliatory posture towards the conservative kingdom.

While some in Canada had been disappointed to see the UK and Europe opt to publicly stay out of the diplomatic spat, Juneau described it as unsurprising. “When Saudi Arabia had comparable fights with Sweden and Germany in recent years, did Canada go out of its way to side with Sweden and Germany? No, not at all,” he said. “We stayed quiet because we had nothing to gain from getting involved. So on the European side, the calculation is the same.”

Canada’s lonely stand for women’s rights in the kingdom did earn the support of some around the world; this week saw the Guardian and the New York Times publish editorials urging Europe and the US to stand with Canada. So did the Washington Post, going one step further by publishing their editorial in Arabic.

Their call was echoed by a handful of prominent voices in the US, including Bernie Sanders. “It’s entirely legitimate for democratic governments to highlight human rights issues with undemocratic governments,” the US senator wrote on Twitter. “The US must be clear in condemning repression, especially when done by governments that receive our support.”
 

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Logistically speaking......CDA created this firestorm. CDA has to deal with it.
Would we support a nation that made such a political gaff?

Mind you .....OTOH........if a tweet can create such a dust storm.......... then the world is in real trouble.. Over reacting to tweet (SOCIAL media).......as has happened speaks also of the one over reacting. Technically both parties can be blamed ........but the owneness is on CDA for sparking this . Twitter has it hazards and not a forum for making political statemented by people in power. THAT is just plain Stupidity Make your position IF appropriate..........in person or via professional channels.
 
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EagleSmack

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Perhaps if your Liberal Govt. minded it's own business, and wasn't so Islamophobic Canada would not be in this mess.


It is all Justin's fault.
 

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Justine welcomed 40,000 Syrian refugees to Canada. How many have the Saudis taken in? He is no islamophobe. Rich countries have no excuse not to promote human rights. The Saudis can well afford to. Many times over.
 

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justducky

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The NYT... that paper is a straight up racist liberal rag.


WaPo... liberal rag.


The Guardian? Never heard of it.


The Libs made Canada look foolish. The Trudeau Admin is completely inept and has no clue. In the end, Justin will grovel or beg other countries to fix his mess as usual.

What pray tell is the republican newspaper of record? Justin is pretty savvy. He's led us into diversity and talks about how it makes us resilient. He'll have a legacy like his father. Meanwhile Harper is leading a right wing group that is planning on autocrating the world. With Justin, Democracy lives and breathes. With Harper or Scheer democracy is "canned" for the rich. Differences are exploited. And our good public schools and good public healthcare will be under attack. Breathing is fun. People like it.
 

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What pray tell is the republican newspaper of record? Justin is pretty savvy. He's led us into diversity and talks about how it makes us resilient. He'll have a legacy like his father. Meanwhile Harper is leading a right wing group that is planning on autocrating the world. With Justin, Democracy lives and breathes. With Harper or Scheer democracy is "canned" for the rich. Differences are exploited. And our good public schools and good public healthcare will be under attack. Breathing is fun. People like it.

Diversity does not make us resilient, this is just more Trudeau bullshit.

Diversity makes us weak, poor and useless.
Diversity means the Whites have to look after useless third world scum bags.
 

EagleSmack

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Justin is savvy? Don't make us laugh. He's a groper and an Islamophobe. He's made Canada into a laughingstock. From his cultural appropriation in India to his meddling in the affairs of another nation.


He's pathetic. I can't see why anyone is stunned that every other nation is silent about this. You're all alone on this.
 

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The NYT... that paper is a straight up racist liberal rag.


WaPo... liberal rag.


The Guardian? Never heard of it.


The Libs made Canada look foolish. The Trudeau Admin is completely inept and has no clue. In the end, Justin will grovel or beg other countries to fix his mess as usual.

Still defending the Saudi regime?

What a piece of shyte you are.
 
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