The Kim/ Trump "Summit "

[Ocean Breeze]

I am simply loving your tears of rage and helplessness Breezy!

Trump played all you Alt-Left Libs like fiddles.

That is a tad sadistic. We will see who has been played. So far NK got what they wanted. The so called agreement is vague and not specific about some issues..

S. Korea got caught by surprise when Trump announced he would stop the "war games"...

After S.Korea did all that diplomatic work to facilitate this . Kinda important not to get carried away with the hype.;-)

"trust" but VERIFY... We will see how the "verification plays out.

 

[EagleSmack]

Cry on Breezy.... I am enjoying the Alt-Left temper tantrum.

Trump's strategy was the winning strategy.

Meanwhile..... you have Trudeau. It is safe to say that Trudeau will not be conducting any historic summits during his tenure.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Whenever the Left gets all buggy-eyed, hysterical and start throwing temper tantrums, you just know Trump is on the right track.

It's been a bad week for them...obliterated down to 7 seats in Ontario...and now all of this hand wringing over Trump. It's no wonder the tone of this forum has been salty the last several days.

 

[White_Unifier]

I think for the most part, Trump is a walking disaster. However, I actually agree with Trump at least in principle on what he did with NK. Returning US troops saves the US economy money. The US has a massive debt to pay after all. It also helps to reduce tensions in the Korean peninsula, which might then allow NK to confidently reduce (or at least not increase) its military spending and start shifting its resources towards feeding its people instead.

If NK breaks its promise, it's not that hard for the US to just send troops back to Korea and NK wouldn't want that. There's your incentive for NK to work with Trump. It also allows NK leadership to save face, an important matter in the far east, as they show their ability to rejoin the community of nations.

Instead of attacking Trump just because he's Trump, let's remember that even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Perhaps Canada should follow the US' lead on this one and promote friendlier relations with North Korea, through cautious first steps.

 

[JLM]

Trump and the Government is coming to get you Cliffyyyyyyyyy!

Salty Iranians too!

Iran warns North Korea: Trump could cancel deal before getting home

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...cancel-deal-before-getting-home-idUSKBN1J813Y

What a Victory for Trump!

So much winning!

Does that make sense? What is Iran's record for plausibility?

Calm down now, Bi-Curious Cdn...

You've been acting churlish all week.

It's been happening a lot longer than that. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Cliffy]

Whenever the Left gets all buggy-eyed, hysterical and start throwing temper tantrums, you just know Trump is on the right track.

It's been a bad week for them...obliterated down to 7 seats in Ontario...and now all of this hand wringing over Trump. It's no wonder the tone of this forum has been salty the last several days.

Kinda like how tighty righties get all bug eyed about Trudeau and got all their panties in a knot about Obama. You phuking guys are a laugh a minute.

 

[White_Unifier]

Kinda like how tighty righties get all bug eyed about Trudeau and got all their panties in a knot about Obama. You phuking guys are a laugh a minute.

So am I right or left... right left right left right left...

 

[Cliffy]

So am I right or left... right left right left right left...

You are what you want to be. Personally, I think this left/right dichotomy is bullshit.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

FoxNews grilled Obama for wanting to meet with head of North Korea. But now that DonaldTrump is doing it, it is history.
(Flash Video)
https://twitter.com/BBassem7/status/1006328609177387008

indeed. Totally different "standards". The hypocritical double standard of the Republicans.......particularly the Trump-Fox R's ) Is blatant.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

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You are what you want to be. Personally, I think this left/right dichotomy is bullshit.

I'm a '57 Buick.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

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You are what you want to be. Personally, I think this left/right dichotomy is bullshit.

Totally AGREE!!!

No human being can be categorized into such narrow generalities. That kind of dichotomy is the basis for the divisiveness.(and EXTREMISM)......in a two party system.

 

[pgs]

Grumpy and crotchety.



This coming from the guy who believes he's a reincarnated Cree.

Another Wannabee.

No he is an honorary member of a tribe in south east B.C. , he was writing a book about them , if my memory serves they were named the X’ tinct nation .

 

[Ocean Breeze]

So when is Kim coming to the White House??

Trump ( according to CTV reporting).......has given himself an out........asying that in six months he might find himself to have been wrong.



The document did not include the word VERIFIABLE .......

so what we have is a fantastic PHOTO OP and world wide publicity. IOW.......Trump heaven.

But the TRIUMPHALISM...into overkill mode.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So when is Kim coming to the White House??

She was already there.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

She was already there.

Good one. (too funny) ;-)

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Trump the 'great dealmaker' lets Kim Jong-un walk away with the spoils in Singapore

Trump the 'great dealmaker' lets Kim Jong-un walk away with the spoils in Singapore | CBC News


this is very telling about Trump. He literally rolls over for Kim while making threats against his neighbor.

But so many are star struck by the photo op.. .

 

[darkbeaver]

Guessing from his body type he's not on a fat free diet so that just might happen.
I don't think he's been smoking anything. Anyone who has observed Trump must have reservations about going up against an utterly ruthless dictator who has shown extreme skill is maintaining power in a piss pot country like North Korea.

That piss pot country survived American brutal aggression and war crimes once and for all time. Take note of NKs geographic position right up against China. Trump and associates can do nothing to NK without drawing the serious attention of China. I think the Koreans will walk away with the best half of any deal. There is speculation of NK giving up thier nukes and if they do that means China has assured them of complete cover. The US gets nothing but Trump trumpeting on US TV about his deal makin accumen. The world wants to know why the only nation ever rotten enough to drop nuclear bombs on innocent civilians especially at the end of a war those civilians had already lost and were already making peace overtures. It was mass murder and a war crime by any standards except American. Why is America allowed to keep it,s nuclear weapons when they have demonstrated that they will use them against beaten civilians in a craven cowardly and murderous way.

NK has a habit of making promises and not keeping them.

No nation ever had a record of evil deal breaking like the USA, certainly North Korea cannot even hope to approach the record of American backstabing and bullshjtting.

If Americans pull out of South Korea wouldn,t Japan expect the same?

 

[Serryah]

I think for the most part, Trump is a walking disaster. However, I actually agree with Trump at least in principle on what he did with NK. Returning US troops saves the US economy money. The US has a massive debt to pay after all. It also helps to reduce tensions in the Korean peninsula, which might then allow NK to confidently reduce (or at least not increase) its military spending and start shifting its resources towards feeding its people instead.

If NK breaks its promise, it's not that hard for the US to just send troops back to Korea and NK wouldn't want that. There's your incentive for NK to work with Trump. It also allows NK leadership to save face, an important matter in the far east, as they show their ability to rejoin the community of nations.

Instead of attacking Trump just because he's Trump, let's remember that even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Perhaps Canada should follow the US' lead on this one and promote friendlier relations with North Korea, through cautious first steps.

If NK breaks it's promise, I actually don't think it will be that 'easy' to send in troops again. If troops are removed, even as a good faith option by Trump, and stuff happens, getting them back in place might just push things worse than if they'd stayed there.

Of the two of them - Trump and Kim - I actually don't trust Kim, more than I don't trust Trump. Kim, IMO, is playing Trump, playing to the man's ego, and Trump is trying to do the same with Kim, only I doubt Kim cares what Trump thinks of him.

That said, if NK actually does finally step back what it's been doing and stops it's atrocities against it's own people then again, credit where credit is due.

But I would have to ask what's so different between NK and Iran...

 

[White_Unifier]

If NK breaks it's promise, I actually don't think it will be that 'easy' to send in troops again. If troops are removed, even as a good faith option by Trump, and stuff happens, getting them back in place might just push things worse than if they'd stayed there.

Of the two of them - Trump and Kim - I actually don't trust Kim, more than I don't trust Trump. Kim, IMO, is playing Trump, playing to the man's ego, and Trump is trying to do the same with Kim, only I doubt Kim cares what Trump thinks of him.

That said, if NK actually does finally step back what it's been doing and stops it's atrocities against it's own people then again, credit where credit is due.

But I would have to ask what's so different between NK and Iran...

I've never credited Trump with consistency between NK and Iran. I think one skill many of our politicians need to learn is incrementalism. Don't expect NK to become a shining light of democracy overnight. We should compare a country to its past, not to other countries. Should a more open relationship between the US and NK make NK less tyrannical, that would already be a step in the right direction. If our past strategies have done nothing more than starve North Korean and strengthen their regime, then maybe it's time to think outside the box. either we're prepared to invade NK to free its people or we try to free them through more open trade. But to just shut the borders and let them stagnate for generations as we'd done is obviously not helping anyone from a humanitarian standpoint.

Whatever we may think of Trump and however disastrously he's mangled the trade and other files, I think in general he's doing the right thing re North Korea.

Remember too that South Korea has a more advanced military force than North Korea's by far.

And China would not be too happy if NK pre-emptively attacked SK. China and NK may officially be allies, but in practical terms, China has been warming more to SK and have had a few disagreements with NK.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[darkbeaver]

If NK breaks it's promise, I actually don't think it will be that 'easy' to send in troops again. If troops are removed, even as a good faith option by Trump, and stuff happens, getting them back in place might just push things worse than if they'd stayed there.

Of the two of them - Trump and Kim - I actually don't trust Kim, more than I don't trust Trump. Kim, IMO, is playing Trump, playing to the man's ego, and Trump is trying to do the same with Kim, only I doubt Kim cares what Trump thinks of him.

That said, if NK actually does finally step back what it's been doing and stops it's atrocities against it's own people then again, credit where credit is due.

But I would have to ask what's so different between NK and Iran...

What atrocities? Like what the Lybians used to do or the Guatamalans, or the Panamanians or the Syrians or the Germans or the Iraqis or, you get the picture or your deaf dumb and blind to reality. An empire is in the end an ugly thing. And those who defend emperialism have it coming. I,d much rather eat with that chubby guy from Korea than that mouthy azzhole American Presidon't. I wouldn,t let that scum bag lick my dog.