SYRIA: On going Horror

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If this was an Israeli strike ..... it would mean a much larger war.

Powerful explosions have been heard in the countryside of Hama and Aleppo provinces, the Syrian state news agency reports. The state media says military bases there were his by rockets launched by an unspecified enemy.
The alleged attacks were reported by Syria’s Sana news agency on Sunday evening. Citing a military source, it said that “a new aggression with hostile missiles” took place at around 10:30 pm local time, targeting military positions in the Hama and Aleppo villages.
A Syrian law enforcement source told RIA Novosti that the army’s munition depots were hit, in what was most likely an airstrike.
Earlier this month, Israeli jets crossed into Lebanon's airspace to carry out an airstrike on Syria’s T-4 airbase near Homs, reportedly killing seven Iranian advisers. Two Israeli warplanes fired eight guided missiles, five of which were shot down by Syria’s air defenses, according to the Russian military. Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei denounced the April 8 airstrike as “Israel’s crime,” vowing retaliation.
 
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Netanyahu is going to hold a press conference concerning Iran at 1PM Est.

Israel may admit to it being responsible for hitting the Syrian military bases last night.

Israel needs to strike Iran very soon because the military can only stay on Red-Alert for a short period of time and it has been on Total Alert since early March.

Israel may state they have proof of Iran violating the nuclear agreement and thus give Europe a reason to agree with abandoning support for the Nuclear deal.

Plus; any moves against Iran must begin before Corbyn wins the next British election because Corbyn is not into war mongering.
 
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What Netanyahu had to say is really nothing new or unexpected in the big picture. Everybody lies.

Trump is in a very difficult position ...... France, Germany and Britain are still wanting to stick with the deal.

Very embarrassing to America, even after Israel's press conference today, to have this split between U.S. and Europe being exposed on the international stage. (Especially Britain.)

Trump may need to go along with the deal rather than suffer further embarrassment and simply hope that Iran does something foolish in reacting to Netanyahu's press briefing or with the overnight attack on military bases inside Syria.
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I just heard Andrea Mitchell at MSNBC say "Of course Iran wanted a nuclear weapon, that is why the nuclear agreement was negotiated. What Netanyahu claims is old news."
 
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Israeli credibility is as low as it has ever been in my lifetime.
 
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Better yet, let's change it to "what's the latest on Trump's gas attack hoax?"
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Wasn't there a gas attack when Obama was the President? As a matter of fact, there were people who called that a hoax. Why would you say the gas attack was a hoax, Gopher?
 
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Let's go through Netanyahu's dog-and-pony show. As you will see, everything he said was already known to the IAEA and published in IAEA GOV/2015/68 (2015). There is literally nothing new here and nothing that changes the wisdom of the JCPOA. 1/10
https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/991108490356649984

Parliamentary elections in Lebanon scheduled for May 6th and Hezbollah may have a majority.

Hezbollah has accomplished its mission in Syria and is preparing to respond to an Israeli war on Lebanon
By Elijah J. Magnier
May 01, 2018
https://ejmagnier.com/2018/05/01/he...aring-to-respond-to-an-israeli-war-on-lebanon

According to informed sources, there are constant Israeli annoyances aimed at provoking Iran and Hezbollah to drag them into a battle of a larger size than the hit-and-run on the Syrian arena. These sources believe that the US mood has given a green light to Israel to engage in war if necessary. The pretext has never been an issue and can be pulled out of a drawer when all parties are ready. In this possible war scenario, the US – so the sources believe – is ready to offer support from aircraft carriers and battleships to participate in an attack against Hezbollah, to build a steel-umbrella over Haifa and Tel Aviv, to hunt down missiles fired at Israel, offer all intelligence information, and share banks of objectives.
 
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According to informed sources, there are constant Israeli annoyances aimed at provoking Iran and Hezbollah to drag them into a battle of a larger size than the hit-and-run on the Syrian arena. These sources believe that the US mood has given a green light to Israel to engage in war if necessary. The pretext has never been an issue and can be pulled out of a drawer when all parties are ready. In this possible war scenario, the US – so the sources believe – is ready to offer support from aircraft carriers and battleships to participate in an attack against Hezbollah, to build a steel-umbrella over Haifa and Tel Aviv, to hunt down missiles fired at Israel, offer all intelligence information, and share banks of objectives.
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Oh, that's nice, I guess we get to pay for the evacuation of the 60,000 'Canadians' in Lebanon... again.
 
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Analysis: Iran and Israel draw closer to war than ever

On a January weekend in 2015, an Israeli missile streaked across the country's northern border into Syria. Among seven people killed were Jihad Mughniyeh, the son of one of Hezbollah's founders, and a senior commander from Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Hezbollah's response was fierce. Rockets rained down for days on the northern Israeli countryside, with the Iranian proxy exchanging fire with Israeli forces near the border. Hezbollah fired five anti-tank missiles at an Israeli convoy on the border, killing two soldiers. As tensions soared along the border, a Spanish soldier serving as a UN peacekeeper was killed in the crossfire.
The Middle East appeared to be sliding toward another regional war, but it did not happen. Both sides pulled back, choosing not to escalate the situation further. Instead, Israel and Hezbollah returned to the same routine, if tense, state under which the border has existed for years.
Three years later, and tensions are back. In fact, the situation has already deteriorated much further than it had in 2015.
It's no longer Israel confronting Hezbollah in a form of proxy war with Iran. Now, Israel and Iran face each other with Syria as the setting for their rivalry. What was for so long a war of words and covert actions between Israel and Iran risks moving closer to open confrontation.
When an Iranian drone entered Israeli airspace in February, it marked the beginning of a new phase between Israel and Iran -- two adversaries vying for regional positioning. It has become one of the biggest subplots in Syria's seven-year civil war, with the potential to draw in even more actors, including, if the situation escalates enough, Russia and the United States.
Israel shot down the drone and struck the base in Syria, known as T-4, from which it was controlled, losing an F-16 fighter jet to Syrian air defenses in the process.
The exchange made one thing clear: Israel and Iran appear to be on a collision course.
A battle that used to be carried out through proxies -- Israel fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon -- has been replaced by near-direct confrontation.
Another, more recent airstrike on the T-4 military base -- a strike pinned on Israel -- killed at least seven Iranian nationals.
A strike this past weekend that targeted Syrian military positions has all the hallmarks of an Israeli attack, though no one has yet blamed Israel. Airstrikes hit bases near Hama and Aleppo, with the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights saying 26 people were killed in the strike, most of them Iranian militiamen.
Iran denied an attack killed its fighters, according to the state-run Tasnim News Agency.
Nevertheless, Iran sees Israel's strikes in Syria as a violation of international law and Syrian sovereignty. Iran is Syria's biggest ally, supportive of President Bashar al-Assad. Iran has offered military assistance, technology and equipment to Assad as he tries to maintain his own position while fighting Syrian rebels and ISIS.
With the strikes attributed to Israel growing more frequent and more brazen, Iran has vowed to respond.
Hossein Salami, a senior Revolutionary Guard commander, issued a harsh warning during Friday prayers, seen as a key signaling tool for the Iranian regime.
"I say this to the Zionists, we know you very well. You are very vulnerable. You have neither depth nor backing. Your mischief has increased. Listen and be aware any war that might happen, rest assured will bring about your disappearance."
Israel has taken Iran's threat seriously, holding multiple security cabinet meetings in recent weeks to discuss tensions in the north. A CNN reporter in the Golan Heights also witnessed what appeared to be a buildup of tanks, armored personnel carriers, and more in the country's north.
"Iranian retaliation is on its way," says retired Israeli Maj. Gen. Amos Yadlin, the executive director of Tel Aviv University's Institute for National Security Studies in Israel. He notes two conflicting positions over Syria, in "the strategic position and determination of Iran to build advanced military forces in Syria, and the Israeli determination not to let that happen." Neither side has shown a willingness to compromise.
Israel views with growing alarm Iran's presence in Syria, with the country's leaders reiterating Israel's position: It will not allow Iran to establish a military presence in Syria.
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While Syria might be suffering the fog of war, elsewhere Israel sees a surprising array of clearsighted neighbors and allies, creating favorable conditions to act.
Israel feels it can rely on unwavering support from the administration of US President Donald Trump, as the American President sees eye-to-eye with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on the Iran deal.
In the past two weeks, the head of US Central Command, Gen. Joseph Votel visited Israel, newly confirmed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met with Netanyahu, Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman met the US secretary of defense and national security adviser in Washington, and Netanyahu spoke with Trump on the phone.
All of that took place before Netanyahu launched his strongest attack yet on the Iran nuclear deal, in a theatrical prime-time presentation. Standing in front of a screen that was taller than him, Netanyahu accused Iran of decades of lies and deception about the country's nuclear ambitions.
Citing a trove of files apparently taken from Tehran that he says prove Iran tried to mislead the world about its program, Netanyahu asked: "Why would a terrorist regime hide and meticulously catalog its secret nuclear files, if not to use them at a later date? Iran lied about having a nuclear weapons program. Iran continued to preserve and expands its nuclear weapons know-how for future use."
Additionally, the Saudis view Iran just as the Israelis do: a major threat to the region that is the Middle East's primary concern. Meanwhile, Egypt is focused on its own domestic issues and the security of the Sinai Peninsula. In other words, two key regional players who formerly had a tendency, in Israel's eyes, to place too much focus on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, are looking elsewhere now.
"I know one thing for certain. We will not allow the Iranians to base themselves in Syria and there will be a price for that. We have no other choice," Liberman said recently. "To agree to an Iranian presence in Syria, it's agreeing to the fact that the Iranians will put a noose around your neck."
At a conference in New York this past weekend, Liberman insisted Israel still had liberty to act over Syria, even after it lost a fighter jet earlier this year.
Syria is a fractured country, but even in its shifting sands, Iran and Israel have drawn their red lines.
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"There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons – no question whatsoever”
--Benjamin Netanyahu, U.S. Congress, Expert Testimony on Iraq, September 12, 2002--
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529120/netanyahus-expert-testimony-iraq-2002

Livni behind closed doors: Iranian nuclear arms pose little threat to Israel
In 2007, in a closed discussion, Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said that in her opinion "Iranian nuclear weapons do not pose an existential threat to Israel." She "also criticized the exaggerated use that [Israeli] Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is making of the issue of the Iranian bomb, claiming that he is attempting to rally the public around him by playing on its most basic fears." This appeared in Haaretz.com, October 25, 2007 (print edition October 26), but not in any US media or in any other English-language world media except the BBC citing the Iranian Mehr English-language news agency, October 27.
By Gidi Weitz and Na'ama Lanski
October 25, 2007
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=916777

"Right now, Iran does not have a bomb. Even if it did, this would not make it a threat to Israel's existence. Israel can lay waste to Iran"
--Israel, Defence Minister Ehud Barak, September 17, 2009--
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/09/17/world/international-uk-israel-iran.html

Iran is a “very, very, very long way from building a nuclear capability”.
“Defence establishment is sending out false alarms in order to grab a bigger budget”.
--Uzi Mahnaimi, Israeli general Brigadier-General Uzi Eilam denies Iran is nuclear threat, January 10, 2010--
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6982447.ece

Former Mossad chief: Israel air strike on Iran 'stupidest thing I have ever heard'
In first public appearance since leaving post as Mossad chief, Meir Dagan warns of regional war if Iran is attacked; says fall of Assad regime would benefit Israel.
By Yossi Melman
May 07, 2011
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...an-stupidest-thing-i-have-ever-heard-1.360367

"Prime Minister, I want to be sure that I understand what you are saying…You are saying that if ever Israel was in danger of being defeated on the battlefield, it would be prepared to take the region and the whole world down with it?’ Without the shortest of pauses for reflection, and in the gravel voice that could charm or intimidate American presidents according to need, Golda replied, “Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.”
--Alan Hart, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews: v. 1, September 30, 2009--
Palestine Internationalist www.palint.org

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under."
--Martin Levi van Creveld, Interview in Elsevier Magazine, no. 17, p. 52-53, April 27, 2002--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld
 
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Hi! Twin Moose

Every country in the world has enemies and many have enemy bases close by.

"Why are Netanyahu and the Israelis horrified by the Iranian nuclear project? Most likely, Projection. Israel operates as the regional bully. Its relationship with its neighbours is defined by crude violence and abuse. It is only human and natural for abusers to assume that their victims are as violently inclined as they themselves are. The Israelis tend to attribute their own violent traits to the Palestinians, to the Iranians and to Muslims in general. This psychological tendency is called projection. It is a vicious cycle, the more abusive you are, the more haunted you are by the notion that your victims may be as malevolent as you have been."

"Jesus Christ identified this psychological trait in his fellow Hebrews and counselled them on how to counter this barbarian tendency. Instead of believing their neighbors evil, he told them to Love their neighbor and turn the other cheek. It didn’t take long before Jesus was nailed to the cross. But his message has remained with much of humanity. I would like to believe that when the Bibis of the world find their path towards compassion the Jewish State will be redeemed and matured. I don’t hold my breath for that to happen anytime soon."
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Twin_Moose said:
Do you think Israel is crying wolf or do they have a legit concern with Iran having bases within spittin distance
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WATCH LIVE! PAT BUCHANAN SAYS NETANYAHU IS LYING ABOUT IRANIAN NUKES
Are the globalists trying to drag Trump into a major war?
https://www.infowars.com/its-official-isis-staged-chemical-attack-in-syria-to-draw-us-back-into-war/

IT’S OFFICIAL: ISIS STAGED CHEMICAL ATTACK IN SYRIA TO DRAW US BACK INTO WAR
ISIS ran another false flag chemical attack
https://www.infowars.com/its-official-isis-staged-chemical-attack-in-syria-to-draw-us-back-into-war/

To Push Iran Back, Israel Ramps Up Support for Syrian Rebels, 'Arming 7 Different Groups'
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...-military-support-for-syrian-rebels-1.5826348

Israel ‘giving secret aid to Syrian rebels’, report says
Direct funding, food, fuel and medical supplies allegedly provided by Israeli state to keep Isis and Iranian-allied forces in neighbouring civil war at bay
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ghts-hezbollah-fursan-al-joulan-a7797151.html
 
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