Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

[French Patriot]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp&ei=wRyUWquFHcm4tQXV74XQBw&q=fraud+laws&oq=fraud+laws&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l10.1003.11584.0.15863.10.10.0.0.0.0.114.1040.3j7.10.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.10.1037...0i131k1.0.nCgTyqsYAOA

Fraud is a broad term that refers to a variety of offenses involving dishonesty or "fraudulent acts". In essence, fraud is the intentional deception of a person or entity by another made for monetary or personal gain. Fraud offenses always include some sort of false statement, misrepresentation, or deceitful conduct.

Most governments and countries have fraud laws of some kinds. They generally interfere with religious fraudsters only when physical harm is being done to our gullible citizens yet ignore the monetary theft that the fraudsters fleece from their victims. Prosperity ministries are the most flagrant of these immoral religions, but all religions based on demonstrable lies would be included in this question.

Our governments are quite good at acting against obvious fraudsters yet seem reluctant to protect our more gullible citizens when it comes down to religions.

Religions, to me, get a free pass to lie and steal all they can from victims, especially the older citizens even when governments know about the fraud.

I begin to see the inaction of governments on these religious fraudsters as a dereliction of duty.

Do you?

Regards
DL

 

[Walter]

The gubmint needs to stay away from religion.

 

[Danbones]

reality has its way of sorting things out over time

 

[Hoid]

They dam well better stop giving tax exemptions to phony religions.

 

[Murphy]

Watch your mouth. No need for that.

And Flossy, the word is "damn". The other one holds back water.

 

[Cliffy]

All the Abrahamic religions are phony.

 

[Walter]

All the Abrahamic religions are phony.

An anti-Semite, an atheist and a Christophobe all in one package.

 

[Cliffy]

An anti-Semite, an atheist and a Christophobe all in one package.

If you knew anything about the history of religion, you wouldn't sound like such a moron.

 

[Scooby]

Ok, I’ll be the one to say it.

All religions are frauds, to some degree. The moment money has influence in a belief, it is a fraud, in someone’s eyes.

 

[JLM]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

I don't really see why Gov't. should be sticking its nose into religion. There's a hell of a lot more important things they should be doing! (IF they have the ability) (Is there any other kind of religions?)

 

[Murphy]

If you knew anything about the history of religion, you wouldn't sound like such a moron.

Why don't you offer some proof then? I'd like to see your evidence. Without anything to back you up, you sound like a moron.

Wait, you always sound like a moron...:lol:

 

[gopher]

religion is one thing, mindless cults are quite another - when the public is at risk as vulnerable people whose minds have been warped & induced to commit suicide by cultists, the government needs to step in and protect those victims

 

[Walter]

If you knew anything about the history of religion, you wouldn't sound like such a moron.

I'll keep praying for you.

 

[Cliffy]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

I don't really see why Gov't. should be sticking its nose into religion. There's a hell of a lot more important things they should be doing! (IF they have the ability) (Is there any other kind of religions?)

By the same logic, then, religions should keep their noses out of politics.

 

[Murphy]

Why don't you offer some proof then? I'd like to see your evidence. Without anything to back you up, you sound like a moron.

Wait, you always sound like a moron...:lol:

 

[French Patriot]

The gubmint needs to stay away from religion.

IOW, you do not care about your neighbors being lied to or our government applying our fraud laws.


Have you ever heard of the Golden Rule?


Regards
DL

reality has its way of sorting things out over time

Tell that to the gays and women who have been subjected to homophobia and misogyny thanks to the lies that religions have propagated forever.


Regards
DL

They dam well better stop giving tax exemptions to phony religions.

They will if the voters demand it, and most do not seem to care.


Regards
DL

Watch your mouth. No need for that.

And Flossy, the word is "damn". The other one holds back water.

Yes, the lying clergy should watch their mouths and start telling the truth.


Regards
DL

All the Abrahamic religions are phony.

I agree, yet you and I pay the tax burden that they create thanks too their tax exemptions.


Nice of us to help them stay in place to lie to our friends and neighbors eh?


Regards
DL

 

[Walter]

IOW, you do not care about your neighbors being lied to or our government applying our fraud laws.
Have you ever heard of the Golden Rule?

I would expect my neighbours to figure out for themselves what's good for them. I don't need no gubmint telling me what to believe in.

 

[French Patriot]

If you knew anything about the history of religion, you wouldn't sound like such a moron.

The more knowledge on has on the mainstream religions the faster they will reject them for their immoral works.


Religions were on a decent path before literalism reared it's ugly head and became idol worshipers and started killing for their imaginary Gods.


These speak to the intelligence before and the aftermath after idol worship began.

http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2


http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D


Regards
DL

Ok, I’ll be the one to say it.

All religions are frauds, to some degree. The moment money has influence in a belief, it is a fraud, in someone’s eyes.

I have no bone to pick with wisdom or knowledge based religions.
I do with the supernaturally based brain and thought killing religions, like most of the mainstream religions that have slowed down our human evolution to civilization.


Regards
DL

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

I don't really see why Gov't. should be sticking its nose into religion. There's a hell of a lot more important things they should be doing! (IF they have the ability) (Is there any other kind of religions?)

Yes, the knowledge and wisdom seekers are decent religions.
Those would include some Buddhist sects, Karaite Jews and Gnostic Christians. Those put men above the fantasy supernatural Gods.


What is more important than the problem of homophobia and misogyny that is used to deny better than half our population the equality that they deserve by law?


Regards
DL

Why don't you offer some proof then? I'd like to see your evidence. Without anything to back you up, you sound like a moron.

Wait, you always sound like a moron...:lol:

Religion and their marks have been the majority forever.


Have that majority not gifted us with 5,000 years of war and inequality, --- or do you put the blame for that on the minority's ability to manipulate the vast majority?


Regards
DL

religion is one thing, mindless cults are quite another - when the public is at risk as vulnerable people whose minds have been warped & induced to commit suicide by cultists, the government needs to step in and protect those victims

I agree.


Do you not see a belief in the supernatural as a warping of someone's ability to think critically and clearly?


Do you see the following as a warping of children's minds?


https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac


Regards
DL

I'll keep praying for you.

You need it more than those who have no supernatural beliefs.


Regards
DL

By the same logic, then, religions should keep their noses out of politics.
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Absolutely, but it may not be possible for the indoctrinated.


They will not say that it is their religious belief, for instance, that makes them vote against gay marriage, but that is a decision that only religious indoctrination will produce because a secular political mind does not tend to discriminate without a just cause.


Mind you, with lobby groups and their bribes, that last does not always apply.


I E. the tobacco and alcohol lobby's paid heavily to have cannabis laws supressed for many years. That is why the less harmful drug was denied Canadians while the more harmful drugs were legal.


Regards
DL

I would expect my neighbours to figure out for themselves what's good for them. I don't need no gubmint telling me what to believe in.

And because of your self-centeredness you will not have governments tell your neighbors or your pathetic self that homophobia and misogyny are immoral tenets.


Ok. To hell (you say), with the women and gays in your family.


Regards
DL

 

[Jinentonix]

Why don't you offer some proof then? I'd like to see your evidence. Without anything to back you up, you sound like a moron.

To be fair, Cliffy ain't exactly wrong this time. All deity-based religions are frauds perpetrated by humans to try and control an even greater number of humans via "divine law".

I think the single biggest proof that they're frauds lays in the 3 Abrahamic religions. All 3 have religious texts with passages that are certainly open to interpretation. It seems to me that an all powerful "Creator" who wanted us to love and worship him would be very succinct and not leave shit open for interpretation.

Not to mention all three religions are incredibly patriarchal. I don't believe that if god/allah/jehovah existed, he/she/it would be a sexist.

 

[darkbeaver]

Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

That,s a timely idea now that we live in an age of Fraudulent Governments using the very same cult recruiting methods to entice the ignorant masses to get with the various government Gods.