Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?

[Gilgamesh]

All religions are fraudulent run by charlatans and gullible twits.

No evidence has ever surfaced even hinting of the existence of a Supreme Big Daddy. The Vatican was the worlds largest criminal organization until the Nazis and Marxism arose although modern Islamofascism is givng them a run for their money.

Grow up.

Epicurus 250 B.C,E"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

 

[darkbeaver]

By 'outside' I meant a foreign country.

Does,t God recognize foreign countrys?

 

[Gilgamesh]

Does,t God recognize foreign countrys?

How can a nonexistent nothing recognize anything?

 

[JLM]

How can a nonexistent nothing recognize anything?

I would think a "nonexistent nothing" must be something!

 

[Gilgamesh]

I would think a "nonexistent nothing" must be something!

You would he wrong. God Herself told me that.

 

[French Patriot]

That,s a timely idea now that we live in an age of Fraudulent Governments using the very same cult recruiting methods to entice the ignorant masses to get with the various government Gods.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

I see nothing wrong is having our political fraudsters enforce our fraud laws against religious fraudsters as they are not as flagrant in their lies as the religious who can hide behind a supernatural screen. Our politicians have to stay in the realm of reality and have to have at least a small amount of honesty which religions do not have.


But hey, if you want to not even try to improve our conditions and wish to ignore the victims of religious fraud, go ahead and put your head in the sand.


I doubt you will get much respect from the women and gays in your family who have been victimized by religions that preach homophobia and misogyny with their lies.


Regards
DL

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I see nothing wrong is having our political fraudsters enforce our fraud laws against religious fraudsters as they are not as flagrant in their lies as the religious who can hide behind a supernatural screen. Our politicians have to stay in the realm of reality and have to have at least a small amount of honesty which religions do not have.


But hey, if you want to not even try to improve our conditions and wish to ignore the victims of religious fraud, go ahead and put your head in the sand.


I doubt you will get much respect from the women and gays in your family who have been victimized by religions that preach homophobia and misogyny with their lies.


Regards
DL

My, you are whiny little chienne, ain'tcha?

You do passive-aggressive better than an old mother!

 

[French Patriot]

If you're an atheist, you would think that there's no difference between religion and any sort of confidence scam which should be outlawed. But religion has a long history and is extremely culturally important. People's devotion to religion requires harsh persecution if the government wants to control it. Even if you think religion is detrimental to society, I can't see how you could say suppressing isn't more detrimental.

I can say that restricting religions which discriminate against half the population without a just cause, as they do with their homophobic and misogynous teachings, negates any good that might come out of them.


To say that they are culturally important when they have hindered our progress to a more civilized state is quite wrong.


Thank all the Gods that Canada have been slightly better at the separation of church and state than the U.S.


Regards
DL

Governments exist to get bigger. They are living things, that have a strong will to survive and grow. Religion can be hindrance to government, but most aren't. As long as the government does not feel threatened, you can 'gospel' up a storm.

And who knows, if you're lucky, Trudeau might drop by, wearing a silly hat, and religiously dance or pray at your event. Please bring a camera!

If the government ignores the harm that religions do to women and gays, half the population, for their own tribal affiliations and protection, then those governments are obviously corrupt.


If we leave such a government in power then shame on all of us.


Regards
DL

They are money making corporations and should be at least taxed. Taking a hint from Constantine, suppression can get your empire destroyed.

I see his empire destroyed due to having Christianity imposed the destruction of freedom of though and being given cart blanche in killing all opposed to their vile religion.


One of many and a prime example of the destruction of a superior creed is shown in this link.

Regards
DL

 

[Corduroy]

I can say that restricting religions which discriminate against half the population without a just cause, as they do with their homophobic and misogynous teachings, negates any good that might come out of them.


To say that they are culturally important when they have hindered our progress to a more civilized state is quite wrong.

You're missing the point. Something being culturally important isn't necessarily good and whether or not religion is good for society is another debate. I'm saying that religion is entrenched in the culture of many people. You might think religion is detrimental to society but many religious people disagree and their beliefs are incredibly important to them. You can't just dismiss them and if try to suppress them it won't be easy and they will fight back. You can't be guaranteed to win either. The result would be a society far worse than the one you're trying to improve.

 

[French Patriot]

That's another question entirely. I think of religious institutions as non-profits. Non-profits aren't taxed and they shouldn't be, but their employees are taxed like everyone else.

How is the Vatican and Catholicism a non-profit when it is one of the richest corporations in the world?


Should we give tax exempt status to religions that make their living by fraudulent means?


Regards
DL

 

[Corduroy]

How is the Vatican and Catholicism a non-profit when it is one of the richest corporations in the world?

Who owns the Vatican? Who makes the profit?

 

[French Patriot]

What if that money is going towards food and medicine to some outside community in need?

Is that reason enough to tolerate the harm that their homophobic and misogynous teachings bring to us?


Further, food and medicine is one thing, but what about if it uses it's funds to further this type of injustice.


Death to Gays.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNEhttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE


Or this type of thing camp?


Jesus Camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4achttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac


Regards
DL

They paid it all out in sex-abuse settlements.

Not to mention air fare to move their pedophile priests away from justice and into a new hunting territory.


Did you watch the movie Spotlight?


If that does not open eyes, then we are all blind.


Not that it makes a bit of difference to the people who are still putting their cash into the collection plates.


Bastards all.


Regards
DL

They sold properties to pay for that.

Perhaps but to make paid prostitute out of young victims is to add insult to injury.


Who else can buy their way away from justice like that?


Regards
DL

Maybe not, but I think it has more than you think they have with being the last of the Roman empire and all, BTW I'm a Catholic with paid membership so I'm trying to use them as an example because I know the structure a little better than others.

Tell us my Catholic friend, what compels you to idol worship a genocidal son murdering God who denies women and gays equality without a just cause?


Regards
DL

Yes but the congregations as whole are losing members big time in recent years our church was just taken off the books because we can't afford to keep the doors open full time anymore.

Thanks to all the Gods.


One less church that preaches homophobia and misogyny without a just cause.


Regards
DL

There just something immoral about the state taxing charity. It's the sort of thing some petty medieval tyrant would do. The state is bad enough as it is. Why would we want to make it worse by having it greedily take a cut out of charity?

I admit to not having an equivalent Canadian list, but knowing the income and tax status of a few, I know some are equivalent to these charities.


If you think they should not be taxed then ---------




The crooks ain't just confined to religions. Here are a few more crooks:


Rank Charity name... Total raised by solicitors ...Paid to solicitors ... % spent on direct cash aid


1 Kids Wish Network 137.9million 115.9 million 2.5%


2 Cancer Fund of America 86.8million 75.4 million 1.0%


3 Children's Wish Foundation International 92.7million 61.2 million 10.6%


4 Firefighters Charitable Foundation 62.8million 53.8 million 7.4%


5 International Union of Police Associations, AFL-CIO 66.6million 50.4 million 0.5%


6 Breast Cancer Relief Foundation 63.9million 44.8 million 2.2%


7 American Association of State Troopers 48.1million 38.6 million 8.9%


8 National Veterans Service Fund 70.2million 36.9 million 7.8%


9 Children's Cancer Fund of America 43.7million 34.4 million 4.6%


10 Children's Cancer Recovery Foundation 38.5million 28.9 million 0.7%


11 Project Cure (Bradenton, FL) 53.8million 25.5 million 0.0%


12 Committee For Missing Children 26.6million 23.5 million 0.8%


13 Youth Development Fund 27.5million 22.6 million 1.0%


14 Association for Firefighters and Paramedics 24.0million 21.4 million 3.1%


15 Woman To Woman Breast Cancer Foundation 19.4million 18.2 million 0.3%


16 United States Deputy Sheriffs' Association 25.6million 17.9 million 0.8%


17 National Caregiving Foundation 21.0million 17.4 million 3.2%


18 Vietnow National Headquarters 19.1million 16.7 million 2.8%


19 National Cancer Coalition 42.1million 16.4 million 1.3%


20 Operation Lookout National Center for Missing Youth 18.2million 14.7 million 0.0%


21 American Foundation For Disabled Children 15.8million 13.4 million 0.6%


22 Heart Support of America 31.4million 12.9 million 3.1%


23 Police Protective Fund 37.7million 12.2 million 0.7%


24 Veterans Assistance Foundation 12.4million 11.1 million 10.4%


25 Children's Charity Fund 14.0million 10.3 million 2.4%


26 The Veterans Fund 12.6million 10.2 million 2.5%


27 Wishing Well Foundation USA 12.6million 10.1 million 4.3%


28 Disabled Police Officers of America Inc. 11.4million 9.5 million 2.3%


29 Disabled Police and Sheriffs Foundation 10.4million 8.9 million 1.0%


30 National Police Defense Foundation 10.6million 8.4 million 5.1%


31 Defeat Diabetes Foundation 12.7million 7.8 million 0.0%


32 American Association of the Deaf & Blind 10.3million 7.8 million 0.1%


33 Optimal Medical Foundation 7.8million 7.6 million 1.0%


34 Circle of Friends For American Veterans 9.3million 7.2 million 4.4%


35 United Breast Cancer Foundation 12.7million 7.2 million 6.3%


36 Reserve Police Officers Association 7.8million 6.9 million 1.2%


37 Children's Leukemia Research Association 9.8million 6.8 million 11.1%


38 Disabled Police Officers Counseling Center 7.6million 6.4 million 0.1%


39 Shiloh International Ministries 7.7million 6.0 million 1.1%


40 Find the Children 7.4million 4.8 million 4.6%


41 Survivors and Victims Empowered 7.7million 4.8 million 0.0%


42 Firefighters Assistance Fund 5.7million 4.7 million 3.1%


43 Caring for Our Children Foundation 5.1million 4.4 million 1.6%


44 National Narcotic Officers Associations Coalition 5.0million 4.2 million 0.0%


45 Our American Veterans 2.6million 2.3 million 2.3%


46 Roger Wyburn-Mason & Jack M Blount Foundation For Eradication of Rheumatoid Disease 9.0million 1.9 million 0.0%


47 Hope Cancer Fund 2.1million 1.7 million 0.5%


48 Firefighters Burn Fund 2.0million 1.7 million 1.5%




Crooks all, and there ain't nothing illegal about it.




I also think that religions should not receive any tax breaks of any kind and that their adherents should not be able to use what they give as tax deductions.




Churches are just theatres showing adult fairy tales and we cannot deduct what we spend at other theatres so people should not be able to deduct what is basically entertainment.


Regards
DL

Gov'ts role is to apprehend anyone who is breaking the law, otherwise keep their f**king nose out of it!

If the lying religions do to the most gullible of u's cash is not fraud to you, what would you call it?


Regards
DL

All religions are fraudulent run by charlatans and gullible twits.

No evidence has ever surfaced even hinting of the existence of a Supreme Big Daddy. The Vatican was the worlds largest criminal organization until the Nazis and Marxism arose although modern Islamofascism is givng them a run for their money.

Grow up.

Epicurus 250 B.C,E"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

No argument.


How can we get our law enforcers and fraud squads and governments to act to protect the victims of the religious fraudsters?


Know any good lawyers that might have some ideas?


Regards
DL

You're missing the point. Something being culturally important isn't necessarily good and whether or not religion is good for society is another debate. I'm saying that religion is entrenched in the culture of many people. You might think religion is detrimental to society but many religious people disagree and their beliefs are incredibly important to them. You can't just dismiss them and if try to suppress them it won't be easy and they will fight back. You can't be guaranteed to win either. The result would be a society far worse than the one you're trying to improve.

If Christians had incredibly important beliefs, they would not be adoring a genocidal son murdering prick of a God.


In Finland, for instance, 95% of the citizens call themselves Christian, yet only about 4% go to church even once a year.


If religious hypocrites thought their morals important, the would not be adoring a genocidal son murder and the notion that gays and women should be discriminated against without a just cause.


If you admire such a religion, then you must love to be discriminated against without a just cause.


If you cannot love your fellow female friends enough to hate those who would oppress them without a just cause then shame on you and all Canadians like you.


Regards
DL

Who owns the Vatican? Who makes the profit?

Fraudster liars.


Regards
DL

 

[Corduroy]

Again, you are completely missing my point. I could make it again for a third time, but I'm afraid I'd be wasting my time.

 

[Walter]

Again, you are completely missing my point. I could make it again for a third time, but I'm afraid I'd be wasting my time.

Frog Pat knows everything.

 

[JLM]

You're missing the point. Something being culturally important isn't necessarily good and whether or not religion is good for society is another debate. I'm saying that religion is entrenched in the culture of many people. You might think religion is detrimental to society but many religious people disagree and their beliefs are incredibly important to them. You can't just dismiss them and if try to suppress them it won't be easy and they will fight back. You can't be guaranteed to win either. The result would be a society far worse than the one you're trying to improve.

Why would someone stick their nose into some one else's religion UNLESS they were a victim of someone else's beliefs?

 

[Corduroy]

Why would someone stick their nose into some one else's religion UNLESS they were a victim of someone else's beliefs?

If someone wants to impose their religion on others.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Why would someone stick their nose into some one else's religion UNLESS they were a victim of someone else's beliefs?

Why, "to kill the Indian in the child," of course. Make us all nice little almost-as-good-as-white-people Christians.

 

[French Patriot]

Why would someone stick their nose into some one else's religion UNLESS they were a victim of someone else's beliefs?

Why would anyone not stick their noses into religions that have made victims of gays and women with their homophobic and misogynous policies?


Do you not believe in plowing the moral road for your family and friends?


Sigh. So few follow the Golden Rule.


Regards
DL

Why, "to kill the Indian in the child," of course. Make us all nice little almost-as-good-as-white-people Christians.

Religion is a good way to help kill a culture.


Our natives should have stuck with their naturalist religions. We all should have done the same as natural law is what we should be living under.


Evolution is the best way to explain people to people evils as it shows us that we must tolerate that small bit of evil that is produced when we compete and create victims or losers to those competitions, --- as a part of a larger evolutionary good.


Regards
DL