Gun Control is Completely Useless.

JamesBondo

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LOL So are you suggesting that we should ignore the shooting today because it doesn't reflect the dictionary definition of a massacre. What is this glomming onto what news stations report as the US definition of a massacre about?? Do you feel it wasn't enough to call the event a tragedy because they were children or because you do not agree with how news stations reported it? It was 17 students who died today.
well there was a case where an off duty police officer managed to stop an armed man that had shot his gf in a restaurant and was headed into a movie theatre to shoot more people. You can bet that it wont be added to a data base of prevented mass shootings due to a lawfully armed citizen.
 

bluebyrd35

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well there was a case where an off duty police officer managed to stop an armed man that had shot his gf in a restaurant and was headed into a movie theatre to shoot more people. You can bet that it wont be added to a data base of prevented mass shootings due to a lawfully armed citizen.
Oh for Pete's sake "A lawfully armed citizen" here in the US is not the same critter as in Canada. That lawfully armed citizen, was an "Off Duty Policeman" Further I would bet that tale of the armed man did not take place in Canada.

How do YOU account for the fact that there are already one plus gun for every citizen in the US now and the shootings are the highest per capita in the world for an industrialized nation?? And unless it is more than 4 people involved the only shootings that the media mention these days are the ones that have occurred in the narrow range of that station's locale.

Every day, on the local media, here, there are at least 3 new shootings mentioned, that have occurred locally.
 
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Corduroy

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Wow, yeah.....like the debate over what constitutes a massacre is just like so apropo to what happened today.

It totally is given the lows the United States has sunk to. After Sandy Hook, Americans proved that they don't really care if someone mass murders children. Given how common place mass shooting are now it makes perfect sense to quibble over the definition of a massacre. These horrible people are trying to determine the semantics of how they should pretend to condemn it.
 

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Why does this happen.. by a factor of 10 to 1 in the U.S. Why is the rate of gun murders a minimum of 4 times what it is in other developed nations. The reason is not only the availability and lack of regulation for guns, but an entrenched gun culture which sees weapons as an emblem of manhood, of the home as a fortress, and the responsibility of defense against encroaching dark forces up to the individual and not the police.

American culture is still very much defined by the Wild West mythology and the Lone Ranger. It's a myth that the NRA promotes by way of a misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment which was clearly meant to protect the establishment of militias as a bulwark against tyranny.. NOT as a free for all for gun nuts and murderers.

There is any number of potential mass killers that conform to a specific profile. They consider themselves physically inferior, sexually inadequate, socially alienated, personally persecuted. The culture they live in forms their idea of compensation and vengeance for that.
 
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well there was a case where an off duty police officer managed to stop an armed man that had shot his gf in a restaurant and was headed into a movie theatre to shoot more people. You can bet that it wont be added to a data base of prevented mass shootings due to a lawfully armed citizen.

Was his wife dead?
 

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Tecumsehsbones

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And coming from a demented asshole like you, that statement doesn't mean a hell of a lot.

Yeah, at least I don't fantasize that all the victims in Floriduh survived. That's for the truly out of touch with reality.

Sad old imbecile. Has the fact that 17 people were killed penetrated your bubble of senile dementia yet, or are we still stuck on "nobody was killed, there's no problem here?"
 

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They did, they are on an island funded by Soros along with "victims" of Sandy Hook.

It's all in the Clinton Foundation future memos.

It's on every pizza menu if you use the secret mail order glasses.

Awaiting transfer to Hillary's child sex slave camp on Mars.

OK, I see your point. There's plenty of people much younger than JLM with an equally. . . shall we say "tenuous?". . . grip on objective reality.
 

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Gun haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazi's. — Theodore Haas, former prisoner of the infamous Dachau prisoner concentration camp
 

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Gun haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazi's. — Theodore Haas, former prisoner of the infamous Dachau prisoner concentration camp
not sure what this has to do with anything.
 

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MILWAUKEE —
A postal worker was attacked while on the job Wednesday morning near 32nd and Wells streets in Milwaukee.

Milwaukee police said a man tried to sexually assault the female mail carrier, but a witness, armed with a gun, intervened and stopped the assault.

Armed witness disrupts attempted sexual assault of mail carrier

It looks like Bluebyrd would rather have her female postal worker sexually assaulted and scarred for life.
 

JamesBondo

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Maplewood liquor store worker foils armed robbery, fatally shoots suspect
Two people were trying to rob the store after dark Monday.

By Tim Harlow and Paul Walsh Star Tribune JANUARY 24, 2018 — 7:10AM

A Maplewood liquor store worker foiled an armed robbery, fatally shooting one of the two masked suspects, authorities said Tuesday.

The shooting occurred about 6:45 p.m. Monday at Princess Liquors on Stillwater Road near Century Avenue, according to police.

Willie Young-Ferba, 23, who “very recently” moved to Maplewood from Chicago, was identified by police Tuesday as the dead suspect. Young-Ferba’s criminal history in the Chicago area includes a theft offense in 2015.

A second store worker was assaulted before the gunfire erupted, and she was taken to Woodwinds Hospital in Woodbury for treatment of noncritical injuries, said Police Cmdr. Dave Kvam.

Kvam said one of the two suspects had a gun and both had on masks.

Police are still searching for the second suspect, whose identity they have verified, but “his identity is not yet being revealed, in part to allow detectives more time to work with potential witnesses whose statements could be tainted by premature identification.”

It was while the female staffer was being assaulted that the second worker shot and wounded one of the suspects, according to police.

Maplewood liquor store worker foils armed robbery, fatally shoots suspect - StarTribune.com
 

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Maplewood liquor store worker foils armed robbery, fatally shoots suspect
Two people were trying to rob the store after dark Monday.

By Tim Harlow and Paul Walsh Star Tribune JANUARY 24, 2018 — 7:10AM

A Maplewood liquor store worker foiled an armed robbery, fatally shooting one of the two masked suspects, authorities said Tuesday.

The shooting occurred about 6:45 p.m. Monday at Princess Liquors on Stillwater Road near Century Avenue, according to police.

Willie Young-Ferba, 23, who “very recently” moved to Maplewood from Chicago, was identified by police Tuesday as the dead suspect. Young-Ferba’s criminal history in the Chicago area includes a theft offense in 2015.

A second store worker was assaulted before the gunfire erupted, and she was taken to Woodwinds Hospital in Woodbury for treatment of noncritical injuries, said Police Cmdr. Dave Kvam.

Kvam said one of the two suspects had a gun and both had on masks.

Police are still searching for the second suspect, whose identity they have verified, but “his identity is not yet being revealed, in part to allow detectives more time to work with potential witnesses whose statements could be tainted by premature identification.”

It was while the female staffer was being assaulted that the second worker shot and wounded one of the suspects, according to police.

Maplewood liquor store worker foils armed robbery, fatally shoots suspect - StarTribune.com
Your argument will mean something when the deaths of innocent men, women and children by gun are less that the rare happening of a good guy with a gun averting a robbery, rape or murder. Come back when the yearly rate deaths of children drop because the adults have secured their weapons or when the suicides by gun are less because of a decent waiting period.

I remind you again......I am quite content with Canada's gun control and I am referring as usual to the US laws.
 

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Yeah, at least I don't fantasize that all the victims in Floriduh survived. That's for the truly out of touch with reality.

Sad old imbecile. Has the fact that 17 people were killed penetrated your bubble of senile dementia yet, or are we still stuck on "nobody was killed, there's no problem here?"

You really are an ASSHOLE, eh? I was commenting after the first newscast on the matter where 20 injuries were reported, NO DEATHS! I explained that before - are you really that f**king STUPID?
 

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it is a tragedy that they will never "get it". It is far to o late.

Any culture that has this kind or horror happening as often as it does in the USA and does NOTHING to improve the critical components that contribute to this epidemic... is a culture in rapid deterioration .. There is no civility in a culture
society where everyone just has to have a gun. This implies a very high threat level......within that society...... or flagrant paranoia

Other nations have guns....and yet these incidents are very rare. Maybe its time to learn from other nations. But that won't happen.......as the US thinks it knows everything. Meanwhile they are developing a very high threshold/tolerance for mass killings and gun related deaths and violence. It is the norm now. When the NRA has theh power and money that it has......Well you get the picture.


They lose more of their population via shooing rampages and incidents than through t terrorism.......... Now if these mass killings were classified as terrorism......(domestic)......might there be a change in attitude??