Political commentary on court verdicts hurts views of justice system: lawyers

JLM

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I think there may be a problem with having full representation in a jury................lots of hung juries!
 

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This case sure has brought out all the injun haters.

'injuns', Cliffy........how very un-PC of you.

This is not about hating anyone and your feeble attempts to make so are simply pathetic.

Have you even bothered to look into the backgrounds of the FNs involved. The criminal history is rampant. Boshie himself bragged on FB about stealing and giving the finger to the RCMP. The family has been involved in numerous court cases - still is as a matter of fact.

Now that said, the young man did not deserve to die. However, he is responsible for the decisions he made leading up to his death. He made the decision to indulge in a drinking binge. He made the decision to take a loaded rifle with him. He made the decision to invade not one but two rural farms.

The FNs who are constantly stating 'he was a good kid' obviously didn't bother to monitor his FB page - shame that as they are now being caught up in their own lies about his being such an upstanding young man.
 

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I think it was a matter of Justin opening his mouth before he engaged his brain.

Politicians aren't supposed to render a personal opinion of specific trial verdicts. Any trouble that comes as the result of the court decision must be borne, in part, by the PM's office. I've no doubt that his advisors have spoken to him about it, but the damage has been done.

It seems Trudeau and all his virtue may have quite possibly cost the Boushie family an appeal.

Trudeau’s comments on Boushie case may have ‘tainted’ a potential appeal process: lawyer

“I would have serious concerns moving forward, then. There will be a suggestion by the defense that the jury pool is now tainted and fair trial cannot proceed.”

“There is certainly a need for Justice Minister and the Prime Minister to recognize ongoing issues that Indigenous people face relating to the justice system,” Robichaud said.

“But to comment in any way directly or indirectly on a particular verdict has an effect that does a disservice to that objective. Many people have interpreted his comments about this verdict, which is totally inappropriate and would have a negative impact going forward.”

He added that Trudeau’s comment could have done “more harm than good” for Indigenous people.
 

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It seems Trudeau and all his virtue may have quite possibly cost the Boushie family an appeal.

Trudeau’s comments on Boushie case may have ‘tainted’ a potential appeal process: lawyer

“I would have serious concerns moving forward, then. There will be a suggestion by the defense that the jury pool is now tainted and fair trial cannot proceed.”

“There is certainly a need for Justice Minister and the Prime Minister to recognize ongoing issues that Indigenous people face relating to the justice system,” Robichaud said.

“But to comment in any way directly or indirectly on a particular verdict has an effect that does a disservice to that objective. Many people have interpreted his comments about this verdict, which is totally inappropriate and would have a negative impact going forward.”

He added that Trudeau’s comment could have done “more harm than good” for Indigenous people.

Sweet.

Looks like Stanley already has a ready-made defense for any appeal that comes down the line.

Thanks tater tot!
 

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A gangbanger died in the comission of a crime.

Boo f-cking hoo!

It's funny, I've heard hours of discussion on the radio about the killing, but no one has discussed in ANY detail what the little buggers were up to before this shit happened. Apparently that's immaterial!

Why is it so many people are making a racial issue out of this? Anyone with half a brain can see it's a behaviour issue! Colten didn't get killed because he was indigenous he got killed because he was stealing, drunk and appeared to be a threat.
 

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The system could not be any more fair.

If the tables were turned and Indian boy shot white farmer, indian boy would also get an all-white jury with a white judge.

See?

Fair and square.

this case has shown the world exactly where Canada is on race relations.

All those ignore listers out on social media are showing everyone what is really going on in this sick land.
 

JLM

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Well, at least the Boushie family gets a chance to take a bunch of selfies with tater tot

That entire visit to the P.M.'s office stinks! There's thousands of cases where law abiding Indians, who had legitimate concerns never got the "red carpet" treatment. He's just a gutless wonder!
 

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The system could not be any more fair.

If the tables were turned and Indian boy shot white farmer, indian boy would also get an all-white jury with a white judge.

See?

Fair and square.

this case has shown the world exactly where Canada is on race relations.

All those ignore listers out on social media are showing everyone what is really going on in this sick land.

Hypothetical BS.


Actually, it works quite well for the lefties, because it automatically assumes:

All white people are automatically racist, and will ONLY deliver racist judgements.

All white juries are automatically racist, and will ONLY deliver racist verdicts.

Oh did I mention that all white people are racist, race is the first, last and only thing on their minds,
and spend the whole day muttering 'racist, racist, racist, gonna find me an injun to f(*k up cuz I'm racist.'

See ?

Works perfectly.
 

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Wilson-Raybould defends Boushie tweet

OTTAWA - Jody Wilson-Raybould doubled down Tuesday on her controversial reaction to the Colten Boushie verdict, saying a federal justice minister should be responsive to Canadians who speak out and protest perceived injustices in the legal system.
Boushie's violent 2016 death and the acquittal of the man who killed him continued to reverberate on Parliament Hill as grieving family members met separately with Wilson-Raybould and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, bent on rooting out what they say is systemic racism in Canada's courts.
Wilson-Raybould defended her comments on Twitter, which came last week after Saskatchewan farmer Gerald Stanley, 56, was acquitted of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Boushie, 22, a member of Red Pheasant First Nation.
"As a country, we can and must do better," Wilson-Raybould tweeted, prompting charges from opposition MPs and legal experts alike that she was straying too far into the independent territory of Canada's judicial system.
Rather, she suggested Tuesday, she was merely reflecting the broad sentiment among Canadians that an injustice had been done.
"We have elevated this discussion to a place where it needs to be, because we can always improve the justice system," Wilson-Raybould said.
In meetings with her and Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale, the family discussed proposed improvements to the justice system, including jury selection, an ombudsperson for victims of crime and the need for compassion and support for victims.
Trudeau described his encounter with the family as a very good, very emotional meeting.
"They are very much focused on making sure we have improvements to our system to make sure that no family has to go through the kinds of things they went through," he said.
Boushie's mother, Debbie Baptiste, held a photo of her son up for the television cameras before expressing her gratitude for the chance to share her story with Trudeau.
Her family's fight will persist, she vowed.
"We continue praying that something is done, and that we can go home and tell the people that we tried hard and we're still going to keep trying and we're going to keep going," she said, clasping the picture against a Bible.
"This ain't going to stop until something changes for the better."
Justice reform has been in the works for months, but the Boushie verdict pushed the issue of jury selection to the forefront, said one Justice Department official, speaking on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the matter.
The federal government does have the power to change so-called peremptory challenges, which allow lawyers to reject jury candidates during the selection process without needing to provide justification.
The government's proposed changes to the justice system are expected before the end of the current legislative session.
Trudeau has also come under fire for remarks he made in the wake of Stanley's acquittal, telling the Boushie family on Twitter he was "sending them love."
Jade Tootoosis, Boushie's cousin, dismissed the suggestion that either Trudeau or Wilson-Raybould's comments were inappropriate or risked compromising the prospect of an appeal.
"The way I see it is that they're human beings and they're acknowledging that Colten was a human being and they see the loss and the pain that we've endured," she said.
 

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The system could not be any more fair.

If the tables were turned and Indian boy shot white farmer, indian boy would also get an all-white jury with a white judge.

See?

Fair and square.

this case has shown the world exactly where Canada is on race relations.

All those ignore listers out on social media are showing everyone what is really going on in this sick land.

MALCOLM: Half of prospective Boushie jurors were Aboriginal, says member of jury pool | Toronto Sun
 

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I was called for Jury duty only twice in my lifetime and both times after traveling the 80 miles, they had picked the twelve jurors and alternates and my name was still in the box they pulled the names from.
 

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I don't know whether this is realistic or not but the only way can see an Indian on the jury for sure is to have less than 12 prospective white members in the jury pool!
 

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From the link: “The thing that was the most shocking to me was the fact that they were so audible from where I was sitting (across the room) and there were police scattered throughout the room. No one stopped them.”

Cops understand they are powerless as gutless politicians fear fn confrontation(s) even more than their own pc shadow, feminist justyn leads the gutless parade.
Christie Blatchford: Caledonia natives still calling the shots in land dispute | National Post

It was from Thistlemoor where an OPP officer, two U.S. Border Patrol agents and one Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive agent were first boxed in by trucks and surrounded by about 15 natives.
Simon Hayter for National Post/Files
One of the lawmen ended up in hand-to-hand combat with a native man, while another native drove away in a police vehicle, nearly running over the OPP officer in the process, who was dragged to safety only in the nick of time. The police vehicle was returned about two hours later, stripped of its equipment and with the contents of a portable toilet having been dumped inside.
In the hands-off fashion of OPP policing back then, eight people were eventually arrested — in one case, more than a year later — and charged with a variety of offences. Only two did any significant jail time.
Back in the day, Thistlemoor residents felt so abandoned by the police that they set up their own “resident response plan” in case of attack or intimidation.