Trudeau Goes to China

Twin_Moose

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Not even the community should be allowed to stop monkey spanking. That's between you and your monkey.

From what I understand is that Hoid thinks that any household in the community should have the right to tell my neighbour not to spank his Monkey because it is not up to the standards of their household. And if my neighbour doesn't stop I would like to know what the consequences would be? In Canada's case it looks like no new roads in trade for China and keep bringing in their dollar store products at a tune of $10:$1 ratio
 
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Don't you have any compassion for animals? Don't be surprised if your monkey spanks you back in self defense or worse.

The metaphor has gotten away from us. But yes, I do have compassion for animals. I think monkey spanking should be banned, but it's simply impossible. If you outlaw monkey spanking then only outlaws will spank their monkeys. Perhaps well-regulated monkey spanking rooms are what's needed so the spankers can be monitored. Of course, we'd have to raise revenue to pay for the leasing and upkeep of the rooms. I'd be opposed to taxing the people at large. It should be a user pays model. $5 a spank? $2.50 for low income spankers.

From what I understand is that Hoid thinks that any household in the community should have the right to tell my neighbour not to spank his Monkey because it is not up to the standards of household. And if my neighbour doesn't stop I would like to know what the consequences would be? In Canada's case it looks like no new roads in trade for China and keep bringing in their dollar store products at a tune of $10:$1 ratio

Sure, why not?
 

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The metaphor has gotten away from us. But yes, I do have compassion for animals. I think monkey spanking should be banned, but it's simply impossible. If you outlaw monkey spanking then only outlaws will spank their monkeys. Perhaps well-regulated monkey spanking rooms are what's needed so the spankers can be monitored. Of course, we'd have to raise revenue to pay for the leasing and upkeep of the rooms. I'd be opposed to taxing the people at large. It should be a user pays model. $5 a spank? $2.50 for low income spankers.

You meant artificial robot monkeys I hope. I wonder if there'd be a market for that.
 

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The metaphor has gotten away from us. But yes, I do have compassion for animals. I think monkey spanking should be banned, but it's simply impossible. If you outlaw monkey spanking then only outlaws will spank their monkeys. Perhaps well-regulated monkey spanking rooms are what's needed so the spankers can be monitored. Of course, we'd have to raise revenue to pay for the leasing and upkeep of the rooms. I'd be opposed to taxing the people at large. It should be a user pays model. $5 a spank? $2.50 for low income spankers.

LOL that's pretty good

Sure, why not?

I agree any agreement with China would be unbalanced, the only way it would be balanced is by giving them all our resources and I don't agree with that. Same as the U.S. pretty much raping us for our resources 5:1 to our manufacturing, but at least they are our neighbours, with pretty much the same values
 

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Spanking your monkey is an expression that refers to masturbation.
 

White_Unifier

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Spanking your monkey is an expression that refers to masturbation.

I know. But how was I supposed to know you meant masturbation in this context?

Damn it! Now I'll have to reread everything to understand what was really said. And how do I know who meant masturbation and who really meant hitting an animal? :)
 

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LOL that's pretty good



I agree any agreement with China would be unbalanced, the only way it would be balanced is by giving them all our resources and I don't agree with that. Same as the U.S. pretty much raping us for our resources 5:1 to our manufacturing, but at least they are our neighbours, with pretty much the same values

Criticizing China for human rights violations is just lip service. We have to put up the front so you we can keep telling ourselves we're a democracy, so we can then satiate our capitalist greed. It's like saying "I walked 30 minutes today so I earned that Big Mac."

Unfortunately for us, China's powerful enough nowadays that they can actually tell us to take a hike.

Spanking your monkey is an expression that refers to masturbation.

I know. But how was I supposed to know you meant masturbation in this context?

Damn it! Now I'll have to reread everything to understand what was really said. And how do I know who meant masturbation and who really meant hitting an animal? :)

The trouble is that the euphemism is not a good metaphor for criticizing other countries for human rights abuses. Masturbation is an one person doing something to themselves But in China human rights abuses aren't one person doing something to himself. It's people abusing other people. It's more akin to stopping your neighbours from abusing their children.
 

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I know. But how was I supposed to know you meant masturbation in this context?

Damn it! Now I'll have to reread everything to understand what was really said. And how do I know who meant masturbation and who really meant hitting an animal? :)


Just the fact that it was Pete who posted the original post on the matter should have been your first clue. If it was ruminants or ungulates I could understand the confusion, but Pete doesn't normally discuss monkeys. :) :)

Does Canada actually have the right to dictate moral or ethical matters to other countries? I think anyone checking out Attiwapiskat has the correct answer!
 

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Criticizing China for human rights violations is just lip service. We have to put up the front so you we can keep telling ourselves we're a democracy, so we can then satiate our capitalist greed. It's like saying "I walked 30 minutes today so I earned that Big Mac."

Unfortunately for us, China's powerful enough nowadays that they can actually tell us to take a hike.





The trouble is that the euphemism is not a good metaphor for criticizing other countries for human rights abuses. Masturbation is an one person doing something to themselves But in China human rights abuses aren't one person doing something to himself. It's people abusing other people. It's more akin to stopping your neighbours from abusing their children.

Or people spanking monkeys.
 
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Hoid

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Criticizing China for human rights violations is just lip service. We have to put up the front so you we can keep telling ourselves we're a democracy, so we can then satiate our capitalist greed. It's like saying "I walked 30 minutes today so I earned that Big Mac."

Unfortunately for us, China's powerful enough nowadays that they can actually tell us to take a hike.





The trouble is that the euphemism is not a good metaphor for criticizing other countries for human rights abuses. Masturbation is an one person doing something to themselves But in China human rights abuses aren't one person doing something to himself. It's people abusing other people. It's more akin to stopping your neighbors from abusing their children.
If you want to know how Trudeau can accomplish this trade mission without doing the wrong thing human rightswise go back to when Harper went over to China to make a deal. All these same right wing hobgoblins would have been all over this board explaining how Dear Leader did it.
 

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Criticizing China for human rights violations is just lip service. We have to put up the front so you we can keep telling ourselves we're a democracy, so we can then satiate our capitalist greed. It's like saying "I walked 30 minutes today so I earned that Big Mac."

Unfortunately for us, China's powerful enough nowadays that they can actually tell us to take a hike.





The trouble is that the euphemism is not a good metaphor for criticizing other countries for human rights abuses. Masturbation is an one person doing something to themselves But in China human rights abuses aren't one person doing something to himself. It's people abusing other people. It's more akin to stopping your neighbours from abusing their children.

So even your version what gives Canada the right to tell them they are wronge and agree to it in writing
 

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On Trudeau's 2nd trip to China, time may be ripe to advance free trade
China keen to show it can build relationships with West, as U.S. backs out of global engagement

On Trudeau's 2nd trip to China, time may be ripe to advance free trade - Politics - CBC News

We do have to diversify and become less dependent on the US for trade etc.

You remember what uncle Sam does to countries who don't play by American rules. The USA is sandwhiched between two armed trading competitors. Buy American or else, Trumps MAGA wand.


With Trump's protectionism being a focus of his presidency......along with the US gradual withdrawal from the global stage......it is smart to expand into other areas . Should have been done before this. Canada might have become too complacent ..and the US behavior might be the catalyst that we need.

It's been gradual long enough they.ve already entered steep, the Glob will drop them into the cauldren of war and reduce further by friction. You seem to think that they won't come accross Canadas borders with tanks and truck loads of democracy.
Why?
 

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Of course. With some selfies to be had too. Charm offensive?? Why not??;-) He is one of the more popular leaders on the planet at the moment. PR is his strong suit. If it can work for him in achieving some good deals for CDA....again: why the heck not??

 

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Ocean Breeze might be right to a degree. A Canadian taxpayer will naturally scrutinize how Trudeau's policies actually affect us. A foreigner just hears his rhetoric and there's no denying he knows how to talk sunny ways.
 

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Ocean Breeze might be right to a degree. A Canadian taxpayer will naturally scrutinize how Trudeau's policies actually affect us. A foreigner just hears his rhetoric and there's no denying he knows how to talk sunny ways.

Ummmm... have you been keeping up with current events?