B.C. ski resort can be built on land held sacred by Indigenous: Supreme Court

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FN's response to the ruling.

"Peter Grant, lawyer for the Ktunaxa Nation Council, called it "a very sad day" and said the justice system failed Indigenous people at the highest level.

"It is a tragedy that this judgment will be the last judgment on aboriginal issues of this chief justice, who has had a long legacy, and it's a travesty that the McLachlin court of the Supreme Court of Canada has ended its language on the rights of the Indigenous people of this country," he said. "Reconciliation now is not up to the courts, it's going to be up to us as Canadians."

Council chair Kathryn Teneese said the decision leads First Nations people to feel they are "less than" others in their rights and beliefs.

'We didn't fail'

"We feel that we didn't fail, it was others that failed to hear, and failed to really take into consideration, into account, all of the things and the tools that we have available to us today that could have allowed us to move forward toward reconciliation in this country."


"Assembly of First Nations National Chief Perry Bellegarde said the decision reflects a need for judges and legislators to more deeply understand traditions of First Nations people, who see ceremonies as inextricably linked to the land and water.

"It's a bit of a lack of awareness and understanding through the Supreme Court about that world view," he said."


Supreme Court ruling removes barrier for year-round ski resort on sacred First Nation land - Politics - CBC News

"We feel we did not fail" Well see, that's part of the problem right there. Fact is you did fail. You failed to prove your case. Accept the decision and move on. Reconciliation is about making one view or belief compatible with another. It is not about the imposition of those views or beliefs upon someone else.
 

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What fukkin justice system? There is no justice in a fukkin system. We can't systemically construct a justice system complete with limit switches and logics panels, none of these can judge a heart or a liver.
 

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If the FN people were REALLY smart, they would build restaurants, a hotel, casino, a spa nearby with an exotic "Native Canadian" theme right near the ski hill and turn it into a sacred cash cow. The "Indian mad" German tourists would swarm them if the hotel's standards are high enough.
 

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I think its hilarious that the NdNs spent all that casino money resurrecting the bubonic plague and coating it on bingo scratch tickets at 711s in order to wipe out the white man...

What, they didn't tell you?
 

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I think its hilarious that the NdNs spent all that casino money resurrecting the bubonic plague and coating it on bingo scratch tickets at 711s in order to wipe out the white man...

What, they didn't tell you?

Rama-dama-ding-dong, eh Dan?
 

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First off, the Ktunaxa have only lived in the East Kootenays since about 1795 when the Black foot kicked them over the Rockies. They landed there starving and the Sinixt allowed them to stay and fed them. They paid back the Sinixt by attacking their village at the mouth of the Slocan River a few years later and now they are stealing their land by sucking up to government.
Second, this resort is being built in very sensitive alpine country that is a corridor for Grizzlies and endangered mountain caribou and the plan is to salt the glaciers to have year round skiing up there. There may be only a few decades of skiing until those glaciers melt from salting and climate change. They plan to built a city the size of Nelson in the alpine permafrost, which is insanity. It will be a logistical nightmare to supply water and to dispose of sewage, water and garbage. Anybody who thinks this is a good idea has no idea about this project, where it is located or that this project has been opposed by locals for almost 40 years. We already have enough ski resorts in BC. This one will just dilute the revenue from those already existing. But, stupid is as stupid does. It is not surprising that the ignorant think this crap is a win for anybody.
 

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It will never get built. The NDP have already said so.
I hope you are right.

 

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First off, the Ktunaxa have only lived in the East Kootenays since about 1795 when the Black foot kicked them over the Rockies. They landed there starving and the Sinixt allowed them to stay and fed them. They paid back the Sinixt by attacking their village at the mouth of the Slocan River a few years later and now they are stealing their land by sucking up to government.
Second, this resort is being built in very sensitive alpine country that is a corridor for Grizzlies and endangered mountain caribou and the plan is to salt the glaciers to have year round skiing up there. There may be only a few decades of skiing until those glaciers melt from salting and climate change. They plan to built a city the size of Nelson in the alpine permafrost, which is insanity. It will be a logistical nightmare to supply water and to dispose of sewage, water and garbage. Anybody who thinks this is a good idea has no idea about this project, where it is located or that this project has been opposed by locals for almost 40 years. We already have enough ski resorts in BC. This one will just dilute the revenue from those already existing. But, stupid is as stupid does. It is not surprising that the ignorant think this crap is a win for anybody.
I don't care whether the resort is built or not, Cliffy. What concerned me was the idea that any development could be held up by the FNs claiming a spirit lived in the area.
 

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I don't care whether the resort is built or not, Cliffy. What concerned me was the idea that any development could be held up by the FNs claiming a spirit lived in the area.
Might as well have a wishing well set up so the tourists can pay to keep the ghosts away. That should also mean the graveyards in cities should come under the same action should somebody want to put up something that will generate some income for the city.
 

Cliffy

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I don't care whether the resort is built or not, Cliffy. What concerned me was the idea that any development could be held up by the FNs claiming a spirit lived in the area.
Well, obviously, the argument went nowhere because it is a stupid one. The environmental catastrophe that would ensue, if it is built, is the real concern of 85% of residents of the Kootenays. The Ktunaxa had bad legal advice.
 

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Well, obviously, the argument went nowhere because it is a stupid one. The environmental catastrophe that would ensue, if it is built, is the real concern of 85% of residents of the Kootenays. The Ktunaxa had bad legal advice.

Humans are a Environmental part of nature. Stop being so simple minded
 

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Now all it will take is someone with the money to pay for it.

Not going to happen.

The beginning of another Oka with a ski hill instead of a golf course?



two funny things about this picture - it happened because of a golf course and the guy on the left got kicked out for coke.