Everyone is bending the knee to piss off Trump

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Donald Trump is right: Disrespecting the American flag is a disgraceful way to protest
Marc A. Thiessen, The Washington Post
First posted: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 09:26 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 09:41 AM EDT
This weekend, the more than 100 NFL players who refused to stand during the national anthem were met with boos from crowds in stadiums across America - and deservedly so.
Playing in London, Baltimore Ravens and Jacksonville Jaguars players wouldn't stand for the U.S. national anthem but did for "God Save the Queen" in the very country we fought to win our independence.
Worse, the players held their disgraceful protest on National Gold Star Mother's Day, the day our country honors mothers who have lost children in war. A Gold Star mother whose son died in Afghanistan told CNN last year that when she first saw players taking a knee, "my heart kind of stopped and I lost my breath because the flag that I see is the flag that draped my son's casket."
Imagine what she and other Gold Star mothers felt seeing 100 players do the same on the very day our country set aside to thank them.
Way to go, NFL.
In Pittsburgh, only one player - Alejandro Villanueva - a former Army Ranger who lost brothers in arms fighting under that flag - came out of the locker room to stand for the anthem. He was criticized for doing so by his coach. The fans' response? Sales of Villanueva jerseys skyrocketed.
What these players don't seem to understand is that Americans gave their lives so that they could have the freedom to play a kids' game for a living. When players disrespect the flag, they disrespect that sacrifice. And it would not matter if they had done so to protest Donald Trump or Barack Obama - their actions would be equally offensive. If NFL players want to protest the president, they have plenty of other ways. Attend a rally. Speak out on Twitter. Tell the media after the game, "I stood up for America but I stand against Donald Trump." But don't show contempt for the flag.
Were President Donald Trump's comments urging owners to fire players who refused to stand incendiary? Sure. Were they politically calculated? No doubt. But that does not change the fact that he is right. And he did not start this fight. Colin Kaepernick and a handful of players did. Moreover, Trump is not the first president to speak out against disrespect for the flag. In 1988, Republican George H.W. Bush excoriated his Democratic opponent, Michael Dukakis, for vetoing a bill requiring Massachusetts teachers to lead their students in the Pledge of Allegiance. As president he proposed a constitutional amendment to outlaw desecration of the flag.
Yes, athletes do have a constitutional right to engage in speech that is offensive to millions of Americans. But the First Amendment does not protect them from the consequences of their offensive speech. There is no constitutional right to play professional football. If an NFL player stood on the sidelines and hurled racial epithets, his speech would be protected by the First Amendment. He would also be fired.
The NFL's game operations manualsays that "all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem" and must "stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking" or face discipline "such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s)." The league regularly penalizes players for dancing in the end zone, but it allows players to violate the rules regarding the national anthem with impunity.
The NFL is also selective when it comes to the kind of speech it protects. Last September, the Dallas Cowboys asked for permission to wear helmet stickers in honor of police officers massacred in Dallas earlier last year. The league refused. So the NFL will not allow players to express their support for police with a tiny helmet decal, but it lets them disrespect the flag while distorting the work of police officers across the country?
The players' behavior is hurting the league. NFL viewership is at its lowest point since 1998, and ESPN reports that "national anthem protests were the top reason that NFL fans watched fewer games last season, according to a new survey released by J.D. Power." Indeed, "Sunday Night Football" had its worst ratings of the season this weekend, as millions of Americans turned off their sets in disgust.
If the NFL won't stop its players from disrespecting the flag, then maybe Congress should take a second look at some of the federal benefits the NFL enjoys. For example, the NFL gets a special antitrust exemption in U.S. law. Democrats in Congress have already been debating whether the league should be stripped of this exemption because of its weak response to domestic violence allegations against players. Perhaps Republicans angry over anthem protests will now be willing to join them? And this might also be a good time for some public hearings into the NFL's efforts to interfere with concussion research at the National Institutes of Health.
Last year, National Hockey League coach John Tortorella declared, "If any of my players sit on the bench for the national anthem, they will sit there the rest of the game."
Hey, NFL, take a cue from the NHL. Every coach and owner should tell his players the same.
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A source familiar with the call confirmed they spoke, saying Trump congratulated Moore on the victory.

It sets the stage for a spate of intra-party bouts in 2018's midterm elections. Already, conservative outsiders in Nevada, Arizona and elsewhere say they see in Moore's win a roadmap they can follow.

And, like Moore, they have support from Steve Bannon, the former Trump White House chief strategist who has portrayed the contests as rebukes of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and congressional leadership that has failed to enact Trump's agenda.
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects - CNNPolitics


Now even Michael Hayden, a four-star general who served in the military for 39 years and went on to serve as national security adviser and head the CIA, has taken a side — and it’s not with Trump
https://shareblue.com/four-star-general-i-know-something-about-the-flag-put-me-down-with-kaepernick/

Right the CIA who installed people like the shaw of Iran, and pol pot in cambodia, and overthrown governments in countless governments everywhere hates trump?
The dodpe dealing scum bags hate trump?

awwww. gee ain't that TOO BAD!

WOW, your heros really suck it man.
seriously...
those are THE ORIGINAL super suckers

More than 18 years have passed since Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gary Webb stunned the world with his “Dark Alliance” newspaper series investigating the connections between the CIA, a crack cocaine explosion in the predominantly African-American neighborhoods of South Los Angeles, and the Nicaraguan Contra fighters -- scandalous implications that outraged LA’s black community, severely damaged the intelligence agency's reputation and launched a number of federal investigations
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/gary-webb-dark-alliance_n_5961748

The people you idolize there are the people who made crack and other drugs an epidemic in the US because they hate the freedoms the people in the US have.
I betcha they also trade in children too, which is another reason they hat Trump, because he vowed to go after them for that too.
 

Walter

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A source familiar with the call confirmed they spoke, saying Trump congratulated Moore on the victory.

It sets the stage for a spate of intra-party bouts in 2018's midterm elections. Already, conservative outsiders in Nevada, Arizona and elsewhere say they see in Moore's win a roadmap they can follow.

And, like Moore, they have support from Steve Bannon, the former Trump White House chief strategist who has portrayed the contests as rebukes of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and congressional leadership that has failed to enact Trump's agenda.
Roy Moore wins Alabama Senate GOP primary runoff, CNN projects - CNNPolitics



Now even Michael Hayden, a four-star general who served in the military for 39 years and went on to serve as national security adviser and head the CIA, has taken a side — and it’s not with Trump
https://shareblue.com/four-star-general-i-know-something-about-the-flag-put-me-down-with-kaepernick/

Right the CIA who installed people like the shaw of Iran, and pol pot in cambodia, and overthrown governments in countless governments everywhere hates trump?
The dodpe dealing scum bags hate trump?

awwww. gee ain't that TOO BAD!

WOW, your heros really suck it man.
seriously...
those are THE ORIGINAL super suckers
A totally incoherent post.
 

Danbones

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yeah most of it posted from citations
maybe its the reader who has the problem this morning

You should read gerry webb sometime
The don't give Pulitzer to out for nothing.
( you do know what pulitzer is right?)
You might learn something you didn't know about the real we live ( and DIE in )
 

Danbones

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naw

I prefer to be creative

Let me tell you, you all think I have Aspergers buddy, and I do have Aspergers, You teachers, as well as the Doctors, and the averge joe, have NO idea what is involved in even writing a post when you have Aspergers Walter.
Seriously.

If people have a problem with the fact that I have Aspergers..
Well, I have some VERY choice words for them and they contain nothing but punctuation.

Not to mention its been two shifts at the homeless shelter and a whole day since I had any sleep
;)
..and after re reading that post...it ain't incoherent - if there are thoughts missing, it's the reader who isn't thinking.
you have a nice day

PS I am batting 1000 on predicting elections since I have been here
what's your average?
:)

CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2007/12/12/420107/-

Uncle Sam (CIA) and Pol Pot Connection (Secret Of CIA)
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Cambodian Genocide - Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge
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There, pictures work for you?
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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The really pathetic part is you reacted only to the joke part of my post.

You are seriously comparing them?
The really pathetic part is you thought that was a joke.

OK, having utterly failed as a comedian, I guess you're down to roughneck or lumberjack. Good luck.

Players are contractors.
And the teams are corporations. You know, those things you get all shrieky and throw tantrums whenever anybody suggests there should be any limits on?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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On Monday, for example, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders brazenly claimed that Trump’s attack on black athletes is about “national pride in our country. And supporting those that have fought and died to defend it.” She even dared to say that his position “should be something that every American can get behind and support and celebrate.”


That is not how Hayden, who unlike the draft-dodging president actually has served in uniform, sees it.


“As a 39-year military veteran, I think I know something about the flag, the anthem, patriotism, and I think I know why we fight,” he writes. “It’s not to allow the president to divide us by wrapping himself in the national banner. I never imagined myself saying this before Friday, but if now forced to choose in this dispute, put me down with Kaepernick.”


https://shareblue.com/four-star-general-i-know-something-about-the-flag-put-me-down-with-kaepernick/
 

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Perhaps I was misinformed, but I learned at a tender age that to be classified as a criminal one had to be convicted of a crime! :)
(Histrionics doesn't enhance one's credibility) :)

Wait for it ...

Cases are being built as we post.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I don't think there are any locomotives built by Canadian companies anywhere anymore. But there are some old ones still in use. Light rail thingies don't count as locomotives.
Shoot, boy, them pansy diesels don't count for locomotives. If it ain't a steam loco stoked with coal or wood, it's just a Prius on rails.
 

petros

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The really pathetic part is you thought that was a joke.

OK, having utterly failed as a comedian, I guess you're down to roughneck or lumberjack. Good luck.


And the teams are corporations. You know, those things you get all shrieky and throw tantrums whenever anybody suggests there should be any limits on?

It was team sanctioned? Other than the Cowboys owner name another team sanctioned kneeling?

I don't think there are any locomotives built by Canadian companies anywhere anymore. But there are some old ones still in use. Light rail thingies don't count as locomotives.

RJ Corman.
 

JLM

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Ever heard of punctuation, or finishing a sentence (aka thought), it makes for coherency.


Which brings to mind another thought. Where the hell is Damn Grumpy these days? Haven't heard hide nor hair of him in a coon's age! :)