Trudeau allowing illegal refugees...........it's Bull sh*t!

Durry

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They aren't refugees. They are aliens afraid of being caught in America and they garnered some stupid idea they could come here but they still get arrested.
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Their arrest is just symbolic, in reality they are getting big hugs, free food, free place to stay and treated like disadvantaged guest.
Sometimes for the media, they cuff them but remove the cuffs as soon as the media stops shooting.
 

taxslave

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This is what happens when we try to approach a multi dimensional problem
with a uni dimensional view. First I understand, they are not our problem.
They are homeless the are refugees, or are they? If they are migrants that is
different.
Migrants don't give a damn about rules and yes they come for jobs and their
home country is where there allegiance is and should eventually be sent back.
Refugees different story they are innocent caught up in a struggle where most
of the combatants got their weapons from the USA Russia and even Canada.
Reap what we sow as it were.
Now under international law which we respect and signed onto says you can't
leave people to die in the cold or peril before them. In this case they have no
where to go. Can you imagine the outcry and possible sanctions against a
nation that does that? As America loses its grip on reality and it is closer every
day we could see the bullied gang up on the bully with sanctions of their own.
We hear how America is the most powerful and the greatest and the biggest and,
well you get what I mean. America hasn't had to prove that for a while and there
are others like the Russians and the Chinese that might have something to say
about that.
I agree its not our problem and we have problems at home and all that but humanity
is something we have to consider as well.
One of our biggest opportunities will come if Trump cancels NAFTA. A Nationalistic
policy in an integrated world will mean People will trade among themselves in a deal
that America will be shut out of and Canada could get a piece of the action, If they
use America first fine the first thing they don't get is Canadian energy from oil to
electric power. There are more players in the world now and don't have to be
dependent on one neighbor anymore either


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Do tell: How are we to ship electricity anywhere besides the US.

Conservative MP Tony Clement took to social media this week to air his grievances with the CBC over the broadcaster’s unscrupulous interview tactic of expecting clear answers to simple questions.

The Official Opposition Critic for Public Safety said he appeared in good faith on CBC Montreal’s ‘Daybreak’ to complain about the RCMP’s handling of refugees seeking asylum from the US, when host Mike Finnerty was ambushed him with biased, ‘gotcha’ questions like, “So what should [the RCMP] do?”

“Can you believe it?” Clement scoffed. “A journalist asking me how I’d approach a matter of public safety simply because I went on his show in my official capacity and Public Safety Critic to complain about the current approach. Naturally, my only defense was to hang up and run away.”

Clement added that the public broadcaster’s insistence on holding public officials accountable to the very people who elected them is the most glaring example of why the CBC must be defunded.

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/0...nethical-practice-expecting-answer-questions/

Nice spin. No fqcts but nice spin. And you wonder why no one believes alt-left news.

Poor Trumpites. They haven't the foggiest clue how government works.

Yes they do. That is part of why Trump got elected. To change the way government works from what they have now to what the taxpayers need.
 

Decapoda

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They aren't refugees. They are aliens afraid of being caught in America and they garnered some stupid idea they could come here but they still get arrested.

Everything I have read indicates that they are indeed refugees....AMERICAN refugees. As I stated above, under the U.S.-Canada Safe Third Party Agreement refugees who arrive in the U.S. must make their claim there.They are crossing the border illegally, but unfortunately under our rules the moment they step on Canadian soil they are allowed to claim refugee status. Their claim will undoubtedly be rejected due to the fact they crossed illegally and violated the Safe Third Party Agreement, but while their claim works its way through the system, they will likely fall off the radar and they will enjoy an extended stay in Canada.

Trudeau needs to get on top of this, these people aren't fleeing civil war or persecution. My suggestion would be to pick them up on this side of the border, make sure they are safe, warm, and healthy, then put them on a bus and deliver them to the nearest official border crossing so they can try their luck getting into the country through legitimate and legal means.
 

Decapoda

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Wrong, they are not American and not refugees.

They are illegal law breaking losers.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, my post was not very clear. From all the information I've seen, they are refugees who land in America then cross the border. They are required to claim refugee status in the first safe country they land in (America). So they are refugees, but not ours. And they are breaking the law by illegally crossing our border.
 

Durry

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Sorry for the misunderstanding, my post was not very clear. From all the information I've seen, they are refugees who land in America then cross the border. They are required to claim refugee status in the first safe country they land in (America). So they are refugees, but not ours. And they are breaking the law by illegally crossing our border.

No, your a bit clueless.
They are NOT refugees, there are no certified documents classifying them as refugees.
Yes, they use the refugees process to try to gain access to US and Can, but what they are doing is abusing our civilizated system for their personal benefit.

They are losers, plain and simple looking for a free ride.

True refugees apply for refugees status outside the country.

Got it this time?
 

Corduroy

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They are American refugees who then subsequently decide to cross the Canada US border illegally.

That doesn't make them illegal refugees. Refugee status is a legal definition and so it's basically impossible to be an illegal refugee. Canada and the US have an agreement on refugees stating that refugee claimants can only claim status in the first country they arrive in. In this case, if these people were originally refugees from elsewhere they would be deported to the US. But either way, in order to be refugees from the United States, our government would have to agree they faced real political persecution in the US. Politically, our government might not want to say that.

Entering the country llegally doesn't prevent one from claiming refugee status or having that status granted, but it does make things more difficult.
 

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Are you really that thick? Gov't employees are allowing it and they work in his jurisdiction. He's ultimately responsible! :) :)

Are you really that thick, JLM. Canada is bound by international and Canadian laws regarding treatment of illegal aliens. The PM is bound by those laws. Government employees are bound by those laws. The minute a person crosses into Canada illegally those laws kick in and the RCMP and Border Security are bound to fulfill them to the letter. So quit laying this off on the PM - there are plenty of other things for which you may legitimately call him out on.
 

Decapoda

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That doesn't make them illegal refugees.
It makes them refugee claimants who have entered the country illegally. There is no such term as far as I am aware of as illegal refugees, but they are illegal border crossing refugee claimants.

Entering the country illegally doesn't prevent one from claiming refugee status or having that status granted, but it does make things more difficult.
I agree. It also potentially slows down the entire process, particularly if denied claims are appealed.
 

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Wait until the warm weather starts.

This illegal immigrant migration already has a name.... The Maple Leaf Express.