Trudeau allowing illegal refugees...........it's Bull sh*t!

Twila

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Question,
Which one is Twila, the one on the Left or Right?


Hmmm I like the curly hair and tattoos on the left one. I'm not as tall as the one on the right but I love the hello kitty purse.

Can I be both? This is the internet so I can be whatever I want. Pththth!
 

petros

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so, what should be done with them?

After they've been healed from their frost bite and hypothermia? Send them back to the US?

Send them back to their country of origin? Who's going to pay for that?

What about our policy on refugees, should be just say f'eck it and let them starve, die, etc at the border?
They get arrested and yes they do get sent back to their country if their "refugee" claim is malarkey (majority of the time) and you pay for it.
 

Bar Sinister

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Trudeau is allowing the refugees? Thanks for the update. I had no idea our PM was moonlighting as a border guard.
 

damngrumpy

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This is what happens when we try to approach a multi dimensional problem
with a uni dimensional view. First I understand, they are not our problem.
They are homeless the are refugees, or are they? If they are migrants that is
different.
Migrants don't give a damn about rules and yes they come for jobs and their
home country is where there allegiance is and should eventually be sent back.
Refugees different story they are innocent caught up in a struggle where most
of the combatants got their weapons from the USA Russia and even Canada.
Reap what we sow as it were.
Now under international law which we respect and signed onto says you can't
leave people to die in the cold or peril before them. In this case they have no
where to go. Can you imagine the outcry and possible sanctions against a
nation that does that? As America loses its grip on reality and it is closer every
day we could see the bullied gang up on the bully with sanctions of their own.
We hear how America is the most powerful and the greatest and the biggest and,
well you get what I mean. America hasn't had to prove that for a while and there
are others like the Russians and the Chinese that might have something to say
about that.
I agree its not our problem and we have problems at home and all that but humanity
is something we have to consider as well.
One of our biggest opportunities will come if Trump cancels NAFTA. A Nationalistic
policy in an integrated world will mean People will trade among themselves in a deal
that America will be shut out of and Canada could get a piece of the action, If they
use America first fine the first thing they don't get is Canadian energy from oil to
electric power. There are more players in the world now and don't have to be
dependent on one neighbor anymore either


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Decapoda

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This has been going on for years and lots (not very widely reported) have crossed during the time of the last government, as well. This is not a new story.
Refugees crossing the border is not new, however the increasing numbers are the conern.
 

Jinentonix

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so, what should be done with them?

After they've been healed from their frost bite and hypothermia? Send them back to the US?

Send them back to their country of origin? Who's going to pay for that?

What about our policy on refugees, should be just say f'eck it and let them starve, die, etc at the border?
If they came from the US, they are NOT refugees. They crossed the border illegally. Not sure why so many people don't seem to understand the definition of illegal.
Are you aware that there are currently 73 communities in Canada that are under a boil water advisory? Some have been under an advisory for a few years, at least one has been for 20 years.
How is it we have allllll this money for the third world and/or their denizens but we have f*ck all to take care of our own third world problems we have right here? Can someone answer that? Because I'd just love to hear the rationale behind it.
 

JLM

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This is what happens when we try to approach a multi dimensional problem
with a uni dimensional view. First I understand, they are not our problem.
They are homeless the are refugees, or are they? If they are migrants that is
different.
Migrants don't give a damn about rules and yes they come for jobs and their
home country is where there allegiance is and should eventually be sent back.
Refugees different story they are innocent caught up in a struggle where most
of the combatants got their weapons from the USA Russia and even Canada.


I don't agree with just letting them die. Give them a hot meal, let them warm up by the fire for an hour and put them on the bus back to D.C.
 

Decapoda

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Only HH, relic - he knows about the 'safe country agreement'. No one so far has bothered to mention that Canadian law provides a set of regulations on how illegal aliens are to be handled. What everyone has either missed or ignored, is the fact that once on Canadian soil, if they ask for one, they are guaranteed a hearing before a refugee board.

That is the law.
A hearing does not automatically mean they are granted refugee status. The fact that they are coming in from the US means they are in violation of the agreement and have basically no chance being successful in their claim and will be required to return to the US. In the meantime we will have to provide them with social assistance for the 6 to 12 months it will take to review their claim.

It's actually called the safe third country agreement, the premise being that they MUST apply for refugee status in the first safe country they arrive in. They can't arrive in the US then decide they want to trek across the border to Canada.
 
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JLM

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Trudeau is allowing the refugees? Thanks for the update. I had no idea our PM was moonlighting as a border guard.


Are you really that thick? Gov't employees are allowing it and they work in his jurisdiction. He's ultimately responsible! :) :)
 

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Conservative MP Tony Clement took to social media this week to air his grievances with the CBC over the broadcaster’s unscrupulous interview tactic of expecting clear answers to simple questions.

The Official Opposition Critic for Public Safety said he appeared in good faith on CBC Montreal’s ‘Daybreak’ to complain about the RCMP’s handling of refugees seeking asylum from the US, when host Mike Finnerty was ambushed him with biased, ‘gotcha’ questions like, “So what should [the RCMP] do?”

“Can you believe it?” Clement scoffed. “A journalist asking me how I’d approach a matter of public safety simply because I went on his show in my official capacity and Public Safety Critic to complain about the current approach. Naturally, my only defense was to hang up and run away.”

Clement added that the public broadcaster’s insistence on holding public officials accountable to the very people who elected them is the most glaring example of why the CBC must be defunded.

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/0...nethical-practice-expecting-answer-questions/
 

Dixie Cup

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Very few of them will qualify for refugee status, the US is pretty careful on who they let in and they check before hand to give themselves some reassurance they can't/won't apply for refugee status in the US. If they don't qualify in the US, chances are they won't qualify in Canada. But they only think they have a better chance in Canada.

But yes, we will pay to have them shipped back home. Some effort will be made to recover their flight costs but that's usually hopeless.
The gov will leave them here and ask them to leave voluntarily at first, then later, if we find them, Canada will pay to ship them home.



LOL that's a good one. "If we can find them" What are the chances of that? The Supreme court has ruled that once they step foot in our country, they are entitled to whatever you and I are entitled to - well, actually more so getting rid of them won't be easy and will be very expensive. But Trudeau doesn't care. He simply wants to be the "good guy".


JMHO
 

Murphy

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I hope that there are no accidents involving illegals at any border points. Freezing to death has gotta suck when you're from equatorial anywhere.
 

petros

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Refugees crossing the border is not new, however the increasing numbers are the conern.

They aren't refugees. They are aliens afraid of being caught in America and they garnered some stupid idea they could come here but they still get arrested.

I hope that there are no accidents involving illegals at any border points. Freezing to death has gotta suck when you're from equatorial anywhere.

Real refugees would take a bus to the border and turn themselves into CBSA but because they are aliens in the US they don't have valid ID to buy greyhound tickets.
 

Murphy

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They are illegal aliens who are breaking the law a second time. They aren't refugees, asylum seekers or persecuted in any way. Send them back to the US, if that's how they are coming in, or back into a boat and turn them around.

What is the point of immigration laws, hearings and suitability/eligibility checks if people are just going to be let in? On top of that, my tax money will support them. In the meantime, Canadians are going hungry, are without work, sick or otherwise in need. Look after your citizens first.