trudeau crossed the floor and pushed aside NDP MPs
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Trudeau looks like an idiot, because he acted very much like a celebrity who has been caught shooting his mouth off. His apology tour was exactly like the damage control you see when one of these airheads let's their arrogance run away. He should have apologized once before the house and moved on, but instead he kept saying he was sorry and quite frankly that is what makes him look like your typical celebrity airhead.
The NDP are acting like a bunch of shrill babies. Trudeau certainly did not intentionally, bang into that woman's boobs, but he should not have taken upon himself to act like a fifth grade school teacher leading a student to his seat. It was arrogant and unnecessary. It is the Speaker's job to bring order to the house, not the Prime Minister.
Finally, the whole reason for this dust-up was because the Liberal's now think they should be able to ram through any legislation they want without being held to account by the house. They screamed their heads off about the conservatives stifling debate during their time in power, but they are doing exactly the same thing, but if there had not been an uproar they would have motioned to have all their bills passed without debate.
Hypocrites.
His Chief whip, retired General Andrew Leslie, has raised some eyebrows as to whether he is up to the job. I actually served under Leslie and I would rate him as the worst commanding officer I ever had. He was arrogant, he cared only about himself and he had the audacity to bring his wife along on forced marches with the troops. He converted a very capable Artillery Regiment into an Infantry Unit and left our guns mothballed for over a year while he sought a blue beret with the UN. Imagine that, a Light Colonel, who had never so much as gone on a UN tour. His rise through the ranks were all about pedigree, his relation to Artillery General McNaughton. Leslie did get his UN tour, after he left the regiment for greener pastures and a promotion, the regiment did not, after busting it's *** for two years. The mess he left the regiment in was unbelievable, our equipment was in a shambles, moral was at all time low and many soldiers were injured to the point of career ending. Myself included.
If you ask soldiers who served under him what they thought, I would say that a large percentage would roll their eyes.
The motion that caused this mess was tabled by House Leader, Dominic LeBlanc which would give the Liberals absolute power without any opposition to decide how and when legislation would pass. Some think that this rush to get legislation through is because Party Whip, Andrew Leslie isn't cutting the mustard and deadlines are not being met. Once it was revealed how far reaching the motion was, a backlash ensued and the Liberals relented.
So, while I support the bill the Liberals were trying to pass, I do not support a party of absolute unchecked power.
Nor should anyone else.
Denial is not a River in Egypt.
The NDP are acting like a bunch of shrill babies. Trudeau certainly did not intentionally, bang into that woman's boobs, but he should not have taken upon himself to act like a fifth grade school teacher leading a student to his seat. It was arrogant and unnecessary. It is the Speaker's job to bring order to the house, not the Prime Minister.
Finally, the whole reason for this dust-up was because the Liberal's now think they should be able to ram through any legislation they want without being held to account by the house. They screamed their heads off about the conservatives stifling debate during their time in power, but they are doing exactly the same thing, but if there had not been an uproar they would have motioned to have all their bills passed without debate.
Hypocrites.
His Chief whip, retired General Andrew Leslie, has raised some eyebrows as to whether he is up to the job. I actually served under Leslie and I would rate him as the worst commanding officer I ever had. He was arrogant, he cared only about himself and he had the audacity to bring his wife along on forced marches with the troops. He converted a very capable Artillery Regiment into an Infantry Unit and left our guns mothballed for over a year while he sought a blue beret with the UN. Imagine that, a Light Colonel, who had never so much as gone on a UN tour. His rise through the ranks were all about pedigree, his relation to Artillery General McNaughton. Leslie did get his UN tour, after he left the regiment for greener pastures and a promotion, the regiment did not, after busting it's *** for two years. The mess he left the regiment in was unbelievable, our equipment was in a shambles, moral was at all time low and many soldiers were injured to the point of career ending. Myself included.
If you ask soldiers who served under him what they thought, I would say that a large percentage would roll their eyes.
The motion that caused this mess was tabled by House Leader, Dominic LeBlanc which would give the Liberals absolute power without any opposition to decide how and when legislation would pass. Some think that this rush to get legislation through is because Party Whip, Andrew Leslie isn't cutting the mustard and deadlines are not being met. Once it was revealed how far reaching the motion was, a backlash ensued and the Liberals relented.
So, while I support the bill the Liberals were trying to pass, I do not support a party of absolute unchecked power.
Nor should anyone else.
Denial is not a River in Egypt.
They have a majority genius boy :lol: For someone with a alleged IQ of 168 you sure are thick :lol:
A majority I have referenced at least twice which is why the need to stifle debate is so egregious. They will pass any legislation they like just like Harper did with his majority. It is the fact they believe such a majority removes the requirement for open debate which gets dissenting views on the record that is the biggest issue. I have also stated I aggree with the basis of the bill and support assisted suicide for the terminally ill.
If you had even a little abilility to comprehend what you read you wouldn't look so stupid all the time.
That LIE is what got the Liberals elected. Too bad we don't have federal recall legislation.
Your right, if someone as stupid as you are, agrees with the bill, we definitely need to debate it needlessly for the next 2 months, especially when we could probably, even just live with the SCoC ruling. Let's make sure we go ahead and waiste as much time on this one redundant bill, because anyone with any mental capacity already know Doctor assisted suicide is already happening by morphine overdose, and it's been happening for quite some time, unofficially. But let's debate this needlessly like beating a dead horse.
My point stands, your as thick as it gets.
Let's debate this bill even if we all agree it's fine the way it is.
The debate may not be needed, with their majority at this time no debate is needed on any legislation, but it is required by the constitution and rules of order for parliament. Not you or JT get to unilaterally bypass constitutional requirements placed upon government for any reason. You really seem to lack the reasonable and logical thought processes required to grasp the crux of the issue or recognize you aren't aware of what intelligent people are discussing here.
Yes we are discussing a Liberal attempt at passing a redundant law that's been beaten like a dead horse and the lack of intellectual capacity from the NDP to recognize that no further time is needed to be waisted debating and beating the dead horse that this bill represents, something someone as stupid as you has even recognized
Now if there was anything left worthy of debating in this bill or any other bill then I'd say you are right. But in this case there are none.
You really don't know anything about government do you? You have no concept of what meeting a constitutional requirement is about do you? You fail to grasp the premise of a legal challenge due to not enacting a law under correct parliamentary procedure and just how much longer and more expensive it would become.
You see while the Libs can pass the bill without any other member's support a lot of the Cons and NDP do support it but there are some from all parties that are against it for personal or religious beliefs. Without the debate the dissenting voices are not heard or registered and it looks in the record as the bill was passed uncontested. There is a reason the constitution requires the opposing views to be heard and recorded and it doesn't matter what you or JT or Harper or anyone else thinks about the timeliness of the eventual result or the probability of passing the bill it is required by law to have debate. I would point out that also that it is entirely within the realm of possibility that one of the dissenters could actually raise a point that changed enough minds to vote down the bill. I may not be probable but it is possible which is why the requirement is there in the first place.
Just one question that I haven't seen asked or answered.............Was the honourable member who was so grievously elbowed in the chest seated in her designated seat at the time?
What does that matter?
Would you feel different if Trudeau spontaneously attacked her whilst sitting ~ is that the line that gets crossed, if she was sitting?
Would you feel different if Trudeau spontaneously attacked her whilst sitting ~ is that the line that gets crossed, if she was sitting?
The only ones that seem to think she was "attacked" are the "poor me" crowd. Nice to see you outing yourself.
I never thought you needed an extended explanation but obviously you do................................"what's good for the Goose is good the Gander"! Any more questions?
97% of 33% makes a sweeping scientific consensus too.
I wonder what made the 3% change their minds?
