Here’s How Many People Have Fatally Overdosed On Marijuana

Ludlow

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Well look at that LudLowLife's brain waves on drugs and then again when he is not on drugs. It explains a lot.







Take the pills
 

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Have every user do a 'taste test' at certain levels of intake and the VR driving machine will tell if they are impaired or not. Then do the ones for the drunk drivers at the limit they were at when they were arrested and compare the two.

I'm going to be the first to call a scam if pot comes in two flavors, 'medical' which is prescription covered and recreational which is better but not covered and you have to initial the receipt as proof you know the risks.


Let's give you one of ailments it helps and suddenly it would be a plant worth it's weight in diamonds.


Well several years ago a doctor did say that while marijuana is an acceptable medication there are many drugs that are so much better. Whether he had " a dog in the fight" or not I couldn't say!
 

MHz

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Well several years ago a doctor did say that while marijuana is an acceptable medication there are many drugs that are so much better. Whether he had " a dog in the fight" or not I couldn't say!
I doubt anything is a 'cure-all' but if it works over the long haul then it's use should not be minimized. That also applies to CS and oxygen levels and even the ph level in the body. ie, if you like beer and pop and fruit juice that is acidic and it should be balanced out with drinking water that is extra high in ph.

Here's a test question, a nation goes into a deep and long lasting depression/recession and the vast majority of the population is down to 1 meal per day and the flour for the bread is the one staple that never runs low. If the flour makers have access to powdered heroin and they know that adding enough powder to the flour so you get a 10% blend makes bread that puts the population in a more relaxed atmosphere even though their living conditions are not improving. Should that change reducing the blend to 0% would not result in any withdrawal symptoms. The question isn't if you would do it the question is would you let the people know the formula has been 'tweaked'?
 

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Let's give you one of ailments it helps and suddenly it would be a plant worth it's weight in diamonds.


First it has to be established which if any ailments can be treated better with Marijuana than with other drugs and second if so let's see a list of the ailments. Let's also see a cost comparison between treating with marijuana and with other drugs! :)
 

MHz

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please see my post above if you have trouble telling the difference between pot and opiates
like the pain killers the Doctors hand out like candy so that some pig farma can make billions
and see also
Afghanistan, opium, troops guarding...
"Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production"
Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
The CIA also controls the coke coming out of South America so it is unreasonable to speculate they have no interest in black market pot as none of it is grown at home. Taxing it through the Gov just puts a different name on who is responsible for collecting the 'profits'. There will still be a black market, the shopping list will have changed a bit.
 

Danbones

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"Bootleg, bootleg
see how good the water tastes when you can't have any at all..."
Bootleg, CCR

As they point out in the Canadian government's Le Dain commission report from the early 70's I linked to above:
Pot was the excuse for some robber barons to ban Hemp, and if both were utilized correctly they could probably fix the dead economies of North America.
( at the expense of the monopolies owned by the 1 percent of the 1 percent )

Really that's the heart of the issue right there:
Those that support being "crab in the bucket" slaves
and those that wish to escape to leave those other crabs in the bucket
( You know about crabs in the bucket right?
When one crab tries to escape being munched by crabbers,
the other...um...dumber crabs latch on to pull him back into the bucket...)
 

petros

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There already is a Canadian hemp industry. Damn near 20 years.

How did you stoners not know this?

Ohhhhh, right, stoners.
 

Ludlow

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I haven't been high in 35 Years.


How about you? Your forum name means "Stoned"
bout time to get back to the dope then lupe.

The CIA also controls the coke coming out of South America so it is unreasonable to speculate they have no interest in black market pot as none of it is grown at home. Taxing it through the Gov just puts a different name on who is responsible for collecting the 'profits'. There will still be a black market, the shopping list will have changed a bit.
the tin foil hat is too tight.
 

Danbones

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There already is a Canadian hemp industry. Damn near 20 years.

How did you stoners not know this?

Ohhhhh, right, stoners.


"In 1998, Canada created Industrial Hemp Regulations under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. These regulations allow for the controlled production, sale, movement, processing, exporting and importing of industrial hemp and hemp products that conform to conditions imposed by the Regulations....

...Anyone found in possession of hemp plant parts - other than the stalk and non-viable grain, without the appropriate licence - is in possession of a controlled substance and may be charged under the Act."
Growing Industrial Hemp in Ontario

When a fiber used to make table cloths is regulated as a drug...
well...
please do not wonder why it hasn't saved north america
we would prefer the smell of pot to the smell of burning gears
 

Jinentonix

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Well several years ago a doctor did say that while marijuana is an acceptable medication there are many drugs that are so much better. Whether he had " a dog in the fight" or not I couldn't say!
While I whole-heartedly agree when it comes to efficacy, the time frame is what makes the difference. If you need out and out pain killing relief, then most strains of pot won't help, although I have run across some that certainly had a nice analgesic effect to it. Pot is better for pain management, especially if the medicating is going to be long term. While I still use prescription opiates for the really bad days, most of the time I can get by with marijuana with anti-inflammatories as an occasional booster. The reason I mentioned time frame earlier is because I shudder to think what my kidneys and liver would be like if I was using the opiates on a near daily basis for pain relief instead of using marijuana for pain management over the last several years. The other benefit to pot over opiates is the lack of a physical addiction factor and the fact I can still function on marijuana. Opiates always make me vomit, then they make me all fidgety and scratchy like I'm some meth-head and they give me that munged-out feeling. Hate that sh*t.
 

petros

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"In 1998, Canada created Industrial Hemp Regulations under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act. These regulations allow for the controlled production, sale, movement, processing, exporting and importing of industrial hemp and hemp products that conform to conditions imposed by the Regulations....

...Anyone found in possession of hemp plant parts - other than the stalk and non-viable grain, without the appropriate licence - is in possession of a controlled substance and may be charged under the Act."
Growing Industrial Hemp in Ontario

When a fiber used to make table cloths is regulated as a drug...
well...
please do not wonder why it hasn't saved north america
we would prefer the smell of pot to the smell of burning gears
Nobody is growing fibre hemp. Just seed hemp.

Some are selling the hemp CBD trichomes from their seed hemp illegally as medicine. Tax free.

Without any testing for contamination, the liabities involved are mind boggling.


These people are profiteers not heroes.
 
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coldstream

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First you have to define reality. And I am sure that most people would do whatever it takes to escape from your version.
THC is a social drug. Most people like to share it.

The mere fact that 'reality' needs a definition should tell all you need to know about Marijuana's effect on perception. Weed is an anti social drug, it can isolate people into a very lonely space, even in a crowd. It has never been assimilated into any culture.. including those of the aboriginal Americas precisely because it is so disruptive to individuals and society in general.

I'm not supporting a 'war of drugs'.. as in the disastrous criminality imposed on huge groups of young people, and especially poor people in the States.. and its gang ridden outcomes. But legalization is the thin edge of the wedge to legalizing all drugs, which has wide support now in neocon establishment... and that is a harbinger of huge social implications of unknown breadth.

There is a divide between sensible controls on a dangerous drug, like marijuana.. encompassed in a legal code, and that of outright legalization.. the path we are on now. That is driven by profits.. or tax relief.. which leads to promotion of the substance.. and not common sense.

And of course our twisted little twit of a PM is incapable of discerning a difference.
 
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Danbones

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Nobody is growing fibre hemp. Just seed hemp.

Some are selling the hemp CBD trichomes from their seed hemp illegally as medicine. Tax free.

Without any testing for contamination, the liabities involved are mind boggling.


These people are profiteers not heroes.
And now from the smoking and posting doesn't translate to reality department:

"Five years ago there were 8,000 acres of industrial hemp. This year the Canadian Hemp Trade Alliance expects 100 thousand acres with about a quarter of them in Alberta.

“It’s a really dramatic increase,” said Jan Slaski of Alberta Innovates – Technology Futures, “with this increasing acreage driven by the market which demands more hemp products.”

Canadian farmers have been allowed to grow industrial hemp since 1998. The level of THC is within acceptable limits. Hemp grain is used in food while hemp fibre is used in construction materials, textiles and many other things. Farming Smarter plans to research hemp at both irrigated and dryland sites in southern Alberta.

Two fibre processing plants are being planned in southern Alberta.

“Such a facility requires around 30 million dollars to put up,” said Jan Slaski. “It will be processing 50,000 tonnes of fibre per year to generate bio building materials that will be sold in Canada and the United States.”
Growing hemp on Alberta farms - Lethbridge | Globalnews.ca

Well that sure explains the missing link in your post

Part 2
"Where Does Your CBD Cannabis Oil Come From?"
"Let’s cut through the legal mumbo jumbo, the obfuscating nomenclature, and the marketing hype and let’s look at what’s really out there for sourcing CBD-rich oil.

In the cannabis world there are two types of plants, broadly categorized—hemp plants and drug plants. Hemp plants include plants grown for fiber and plants grown for seed oil. Drug plants include euphoric THC-rich plants and non-euphoric CBD-rich plants.

The key difference between hemp plants and drug plants is resin content. Most hemp plants are low-resin plants. Drug plants are high-resin plants."
Where Does Your CBD Cannabis Oil Come From? | Alternet

crisco it is said was initially formulated as an industrial lube, it may help with those smoking gears

oh and re your second last post:
"Slaski says hemp benefits more than farmers, creating businesses, jobs and boosting the economy.
Last year Canada exported more than 40 million dollars worth of hemp products.

The Canadian Hemp Trade Alliance says industrial hemp is one of the most profitable crops farmers can grow generating gross returns of about 700 dollars per acre."
also from the above link
http://globalnews.ca/news/1179997/growing-hemp-on-alberta-farms/
 
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