Here’s How Many People Have Fatally Overdosed On Marijuana

[Danbones]

So it's okay to be a propane huffer if you do it in moderation?

My Ron White answer:
Thats a tricky one...
perhaps you should check with your family Doctor

My Holmes on homes answer:
As long as you are a stove or a furnace;
them bills still come in at the end of the month, so maybe try evening things out by wearing a sweater.

 

[MHz]

I speak from some personal experience, of habitual (daily) use over 2 years which completely disrupted by life in my early 20s.

I can appreciate your 'rubber meets the road' type of post and since it is based on your personal past I'll try not to treat it as lightly as I am capable of. I don't doubt your experience and I assume that after you quit things returned to normal and you continued on the same path and the pot was more like a 'detour' or something like that.
In your case perhaps you were taking the cure without suffering any of the 'ailments' and that is why you had the negative experience you had. A sane person would quit when that became the normal reaction to having a hoot and you have gained any benifit you are going to get from taking a 'medication'. However there are some who have been on it for decades without it being an addiction or a gateway to other drugs.
One flew over the cookoo's nest had the 'introvert' lose his anxiety by losing his virginity. Pop a joint in an introvert's mouth and he might become a chatterbox with just that 'treatment'. The 'standard' today is if you can do something for 30 days then you should be able to make it a 'habit'. If you can make something a habit then the pot is only needed for that transitional period otherwise it becomes as a substitute rather than a cure. For some 'cures' you might need a Indian Medicine Man and some free time. I'm not saying it should follow this route but it would appear to be as dramatic. (beware, 3 movies long)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTRcQrC1H58&list=PLdUGA0NFIvcAWGfSvltDwp1eiKFzrpxTW
Unlimited and NZT is a TV series that is playing these days so it would be like finding a drug like that for the whole population
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTRcQrC1H58&list=PLdUGA0NFIvcAWGfSvltDwp1eiKFzrpxTW

But all these facts are well documented in the wider population.

How much of it is based on DuPont's studies? The legal variety would employ 10,000 people a year and that is not counting the export market. It is at this point you would provide the studies that you are using to back up your claims.

It will lead to psychosis (a disassociation from reality) over prolonged periods ..

You smoked it (probably lightly) for 2 years so this is also where you stop basing it on personal experience.

and deep neuroses (loss of joy, direction, purpose in life),

No career and no hobby will do that. It is worse if you have money in your pocket, talking with others in the same boat will broaden your horizons on how to adapt to changes that are not under your control. Being there is when you should start smoking pot rather than smoke so much this become the result. Why would any sane person keep smoking past this point of 'abuse, self-abuse' really.

obsessive behaviour (eating, sexual fixation),

. . . breathing, . . .

compulsive acting out,

Not sure what that means but in a busy bar it sound like fun for the most part.

profound lethargy,

A life you are bored with do that, just what the doctor ordered if you have a frail body and an overly active mind. Add a bit of chess tto the track and field lifestyle. Also comes when you think up plans that you cannot follow through on.

paranoia and depression.

Again that is something you should have before you start taking the medicine that is the cure. There is also the possibility that you are hypersensitive to any changes in your body chemistry so you might have been smoking too much. The ritual of sharing a joint is when a light smoker is most likely to be more than one toke over the line to what is his 'optimal level' and that is funny rather than being a time of increased productivity, if such a thing even exists.

It is a highly internal drug that drives individuals inward, into a fantasy ridden and purely subjective space, at a time when young people should be developing their intellectual and social skills.

Like how much a gram is worth compared to what a kilo is worth minus shipping and GST? Luckily the Indians have a safe in their trunks and they do home deliveries 24/7. To make the most of a new situation you need to be in on the bottom floor, in this case having the thc level only mean which class of plant it is the producer doesn't face the risk of losing his whole crop because the thc is 1/10% higher than the form allows. Now it just bit of different color of wrapping so it gets shipped to the right location

The active ingredient of cannabis, THC, is utterly useless for therapeutic purposes. Its only funtion is the get people stoned..

. . . and then what happens when they are high? How about a pen and paper rather than a block of wood and a sharp knife?

and put them into a solitary vegetative state where they just couldn't care, or do anything about, the problems of their lives.

30 minutes is usually all you need of that per day to stay ahead of even the most hectic lifestyle a person can lead.
Legal does not mean mandatory so you are safe from falling off the wagon.

 

[Danbones]

"A leading ultra-Orthodox Rabbi has announced that using medical marijuana during Passover is kosher.

Rabbi Chaim Kanievsky, described as “the leading living ultra-Orthodox halachic authority,” by the Times of Israel, has asserted that, under normal circumstances, the marijuana plant, considered to be a member of a religiously restricted group of foods, is allowed during the holiday if used medicinally"
Top Ultra-Orthodox Rabbi: Smoking Pot Is Kosher for Passover

there all those opposed to medical marijuana are now raging antisemites...
LoL,
...betcha didn't see that coming!

 

[Curious Cdn]

Perhaps there's worse things than fatally overdosing!

Hunh??
















Oh yeah. I get it.

 

[darkbeaver]

That's hugely misleading Cliffy. While marijauna in itself is not toxic enough to cause death from overdose, there are plenty of instances where people under the influence of marijuana have died or been injured due to the effects of the drug. Google "marijuana related death and injury" for a clearer picture of the hazards involved in marijuana use.

If someone gets drunk and dies in a car accident is it a death due to alcohol overdose?

The number killed regularly by sneezing while driving like farting into a headon is very much underreported, you're obviously under the influance of some powerful addictive agent. One wonders why you you haven't mentioned the horrible affects of cannibis;s responsibilities involving the Holocaust.

I don't smoke because it makes me feel sick. I smoked for many years and now I can't. But there are other ways of doing it for medicinal purposes: candy, tincture, oil, cookies, brownies. My problem is that any more than one drop of oil makes me feel like I'm about to have a heart attack. One drop will lower my blood pressure. Nonetheless, I don't begrudge anybody its use, either medicinally or for pleasure. It is none of anybody else's business what people do if it is not harming others.

Like you my cannibinoid receptors are pretty sharp and just a hint gets me there. CB2 receptors, google that and discovery your endocannibinoid system. Yer on the other side of the room and you open yopur bag to roll I will find you.

 

[taxslave]

I speak from some personal experience, of habitual (daily) use over 2 years which completely disrupted my life in my early 20s. But all these facts are well documented in the wider population. Over prolonged usage it will lead to psychosis (a disassociation from reality).. and deep neuroses (loss of joy, direction, purpose in life), obsessive behaviour (eating, sexual fixation), compulsive acting out.. profound lethargy, paranoia and depression.

It is a highly internal drug that drives individuals inward, into a fantasy ridden and purely subjective space, at a time when young people should be developing their intellectual and social skills. The active ingredient of cannabis, THC, is utterly useless for therapeutic purposes. Its only funtion is the get people stoned.. and put them into a solitary, vegetative state where they just couldn't care, or do anything about, the problems of their lives.

First you have to define reality. And I am sure that most people would do whatever it takes to escape from your version.
THC is a social drug. Most people like to share it.

 

[darkbeaver]

First you have to define reality. And I am sure that most people would do whatever it takes to escape from your version.
THC is a social drug. Most people like to share it.

He's right avbout the THC a lot of the stuff is bred for high THC and whitout the modulating CBDs and turpines and a long list of other goodies it,s sometimes a disturbing experiance. I'v hidden in the closet a few times.

 

[taxslave]

Hunh??















Oh yeah. I get it.

No you don't.
Pot will get you through times of no money
better than money
will get you through times of no pot.

He's right avbout the THC a lot of the stuff is bred for high THC and whitout the modulating CBDs and turpines and a long list of other goodies it,s sometimes a disturbing experiance. I'v hidden in the closet a few times.

Its OK you can come out of the closet.

Iiiiiiiiii've had a couple of experiences myself that were not great. Both were Indica and from unknown growers.

And once from eating brownies when I was starving on a road trip. Took about 3 hrs to do a 2 hr trip. OK till I tried to stand up. Still nothing like a world class hangover though.

 

[darkbeaver]

I,m sysmpathetic with Coldstream but it's obviously a case of inexperiance and lack of preparation and research, he made mistakes and his endocannibinoid system punished him, he blamed the plant and exonerated himself and condemns one of mankinds greatest friends.

The plant has been here for a long long time but he would have us gather nuts and berries without baskets or trousers, or rope. The mans intent on the destructiobn of the herbivourous world. He's been profoundly damaged by cannabis.

Perhaps he would have better luck with bananas.

 

[gopher]

I'm not disputing any of that. I'm saying that presenting marijuana as a risk free indulgence is inaccurate. "Good" medicines that affect cognitive abilities come with a warning, that's an acknowledgement of risk.

I believe those who are dispensing medical mj are suggesting the same thing.

 

[darkbeaver]

When I was a drug dealer I maintained the highest industrial standards.

 

[gopher]

good for you dark

 

[darkbeaver]

It was alright for a while.

None of my clients died or was convicted of stealing eight tracks to support thier anti social habit.

 

[JLM]

My take on Marijuana is as follows, Medical marijuana should be easy to obtain with a prescription and the tax on it should be nil- minimal. Recreational marijuana should be legal (from designated sources) and the taxes should be high enough to discourage its purchase and low enough to make it difficult for the "bootleggers". Medicinal marijuana should be no different from medicinal penicillin or medicinal insulin but W.T.F. has heard of recreational penicillin or insulin?

 

[Cliffy]

My take on Marijuana is as follows, Medical marijuana should be easy to obtain with a prescription and the tax on it should be nil- minimal. Recreational marijuana should be legal (from designated sources) and the taxes should be high enough to discourage its purchase and low enough to make it difficult for the "bootleggers". Medicinal marijuana should be no different from medicinal penicillin or medicinal insulin but W.T.F. has heard of recreational penicillin or insulin?

What other plant will get you high, heal a bunch of very nasty diseases, give you clothes, rope, paper, canvas, building material, food, lubricants and fuel? This plant alone could save the Canadian economy with all that it can be made into. It replenishes soil, does not require pesticides or herbicides so is good for environment also. But many people can't seem to get past the Reefer Madness mind fvck from the 30s.

 

[JLM]

What other plant will get you high, heal a bunch of very nasty diseases, give you clothes, rope, paper, canvas, building material, food, lubricants and fuel? This plant alone could save the Canadian economy with all that it can be made into. It replenishes soil, does not require pesticides or herbicides so is good for environment also. But many people can't seem to get past the Reefer Madness mind fvck from the 30s.

I think you are right Cliffy, I just don't like what it does to the mind & from what I've seen first hand it promotes lethargy.

I'm not disputing any of that. I'm saying that presenting marijuana as a risk free indulgence is inaccurate. "Good" medicines that affect cognitive abilities come with a warning, that's an acknowledgement of risk.

I know as we approach the "threshold" of cannabis being legalized in Canada, there is great concern about preventing people from driving while "on" the stuff, so that in itself tells me that cognitive and reactionary abilities are impaired, so I can't see how the stuff is deemed to be harmless.

 

[MHz]

He's right avbout the THC a lot of the stuff is bred for high THC and whitout the modulating CBDs and turpines and a long list of other goodies it,s sometimes a disturbing experience. I'v hidden in the closet a few times.

Good reason to regulate it so the inside is what the label on the outside. A good reason to regulate it to places on existing Reservations is the locals could be the 'Staff' as they have lots of experience with 'signs of addiction' and 'depression' in what others are just beginning to experience so their mental attitude probably has them having a few 'white-man' jokes and humor is the key to elevating depression in most cases so not every fix needs heavy medication although it is hard to know that is the subject hasn't experienced what many other have and got a variety or rewards from it. Sometimes the knowledge that it does help certain others is what it needs for you to look at them and the drug a bit differently.

DB, it looks like the bus is about to exit the station, there are 3 sodes out on this 'new series' and I am just starting to buffer the first one. If Canada is going to legalize pot and tax it and other taxes then it would make sense to promote it as just the thing for somebody who is too broke or too broken to find a 'normal hobby'. Rather than a gateway to other drugs it is promoted that even in small doses it can take you places that would otherwise remain 'off-limits'. Puff the Magic Dragon stuff if you will only this has it hooked just to a time machine.
I thought you of all people here would appreciate some 'adult entertainment' as the language would not pass the censors here. It should on this trailer.Time Traveling Bong. I assume the return is based on a hoot of pot rather than that one bong was 'special', that would be Merlin stuff and who believes in magic eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmIcsEboOTM

 

[petros]

What other plant will get you high, heal a bunch of very nasty diseases, give you clothes, rope, paper, canvas, building material, food, lubricants and fuel?

Pick a tree, any tree.

 

[Jinentonix]

I think you are right Cliffy, I just don't like what it does to the mind & from what I've seen first hand it promotes lethargy.




I know as we approach the "threshold" of cannabis being legalized in Canada, there is great concern about preventing people from driving while "on" the stuff, so that in itself tells me that cognitive and reactionary abilities are impaired, so I can't see how the stuff is deemed to be harmless.

Heck, a lack of proper sleep will impair you more than smoking a joint. Not that I condone toking and driving. It's not harmless as some people suggest, but then neither is Vitamin A or water. Too much of either and you're going to have a bad day.
However, some police are even beginning to question just how much marijuana impairs a person's ability to drive, although unquestionably there are some strains of marijuana that one definitely shouldn't plan on driving while or after toking.
And I will also contend that in most accidents where pot is the leading cause, it isn't so much a case of impairment but a case of toking while driving. It's especially difficult to pass and receive a joint while trying to drive. The distraction level is huge, unless you have a nice pair of hemostats.

 

[Nick Danger]

Saying marijuana should not be available for recreational use is a tough position to hold seeing that our society sanctions such wide use of alcohol despite its proven track record of death and destruction. Still, just because booze is there doens't mean anyone is forced to use it. I'd like to see pot available for individual consumption if for nothing else than it offers a safer alternative to alcohol for those who really feel the need for recreational mind altering.